A dangerous blithering idiot was on TV last night

[Waygeek]

Let's hope that this doesn't lead to another dumb cunt Democratic Hilary donor drinking disinfectant, like that woman who drank fish cleaner.

*is about Donald Gump.

*somehow makes it about Hillary Clinton instead.

lmfao the alt-right are thoroughly cucked by how triggered they are.

 

[urherenow]

How many of you actually watched the brief, and heard what Trump said (and not what the media is spinning)? He never said to inject bleach. He ASKED if something like a disinfectant could be used in the body to help fight the virus. And if you lot weren’t so brain-dead, you’d know that the QUESTION has merit.


Clarifying what Trump said thanks to Shawna Marie (a doctor) for this comment copied and pasted:

“Trump at the press conference today:

“....this stuff is fascinating, so if UV rays kill the virus can we look into something like that systemically, to use inside the body?

And if bleach and alcohol kill the virus can we maybe look into something similar, that we can inject or inhale? I don’t know I’m just asking the questions. “

Audience comments:

“What an idiot! He knows nothing! Are you gonna tell people to drink bleach now? Leave it to the doctors!!”

“Well actually, since you mention it. Yes! We do use UV rays via IV to kill microbes! Very successfully actually! We do use IV hydrogen peroxide and ozone! We already use hydrogen peroxide, colloidal silver via nebulizer, ozone intranasally via oil bubbler and ozone intestinally! And with very little side effects and no risk of bacterial resistance!!!”

Trump may be many things and not communicate well but he’s no dummy. His instincts have actually been more on target than the “experts”.

It’s about time we start using naturopathic, effective, safe and inexpensive therapies and wave goodbye to the gorilla hold that big Pharma has on our entire medical system, our legislators, our citizens and our entire country!

By the way...spoiler alert. Those who vaccinate ALREADY DO INJECT disinfectants into yourself. Bet you didn’t know that because you’ve never read an vaccine insert, right?

Read the CDC’s excipient list if you truly give two fucks about what’s being injected.

In my home HOLISTIC will always be my first try! That’s not to say I am against conventional medicine, but there is a time and a place for it.

I feel like I get dumb just by reading the stuff some of you post. ‍

Get off the media divide and think for YOURSELF! Wake the fuck up, people!!!

This is the therapy Trump is actually suggesting.
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And for the record, Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation has been a treatment in use for decades. It’s a real thing.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

To be completely fair, he wasn't telling people to inject disinfectants. Part of his comments when told about heat and strong UV light killing the virus was asking about if there was a way to utilize that as a possible cure. I mean, with some diseases, your body develops a fever to kill them. I suppose intentionally raising your body temperature higher than usual without going high enough to hurt yourself is an idea. It makes me wonder if going somewhere like a sauna regularly, like once or twice a week, would provide any possible health benefits. UV light is a bit harder to quite get. As far as going out into the sunlight, the light itself would just stop at the skin. I don't really think that there's a way to emit UV light to penetrate the body in the same way as an X-ray.

As far as the disinfectant comment, like I said, he wasn't telling people to inject or breath in disinfectants. It looked more like he was asking if using a possible medicine to "clean" the lungs out instead of just fighting the virus like a normal medicine was possible. More like asking a dumb question to a medical professional, not actively giving medical advice.

A public news conference is probably not the time to bounce ideas off of the professionals, that's probably best done during private meetings. I can understand asking a "stupid question" with the intent mainly being to understand why something wouldn't necessarily work, but doing that publicly will probably result in some serious misunderstandings by the public, which is most likely what these articles are trying to prevent at this point.

UV light also happens to be rather harmful to our skin and eyes. Don't wanna get cancer instead of corona.

 

[SexiestManAlive]

wow, there not even trying to hide the fact they wanna destroy people

 

[notimp]

wow, there not even trying to hide the fact they wanna destroy people

No, that was Trump in PR mode. "Yes, very interesting what you are saying, we will take this under consideration and get back at you." is his way of saying - "I dont know what you are talking about, but seems legit - let me consult with my staff" - at which point the 'but I dont want to look dumb' reflex might kick in, so when its something he doesnt understand, but thinks - sounds credible, and thinks that you'd be into - he starts to praise it more than necessary in an effort to 'butter you up'. (Your concern is very important to us...)

Turns out, if you give him stuff like fraudulent light therapy, or stuff you'd normally teach three year olds not to drink (or worse) - and he has no point of reference, resorting to his default - "I think you are clever, and we will look at it" response, isnt fool proof in that scenario.

Because it shows, that in terms of not drinking bleach, he hasnt reached the knowledge level of a three year old, and that he is open to pretty esoteric believes (light therapy might work).

So this one is not malice - this is stupid. I'm absolutely sure of that.

 

[Waygeek]

How many of you actually watched the brief, and heard what Trump said (and not what the media is spinning)? He never said to inject bleach. He ASKED if something like a disinfectant could be used in the body to help fight the virus.

Which is the same thing.

Daily briefings like this are also not the place for the 'no stupid questions' argument.

He also mentioned 'maybe not even uv, just a powerful light' which is fucking idiotic. It would need to be UV.

You're also lying, or more likely, just completely ignorant, about the use of UV Blood Irradiation being used these days. It was used in the 40's and 50's. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4783265/ Stop spreading misinformation.

And if you lot weren’t so brain-dead, you’d know that the QUESTION has merit.

It doesn't, of course. Anyone over the age of four who has had the dangerous chemicals talk knows it has no merit. Except Trump and people like you.

 

[GBAer]

*is about Donald Gump.

*somehow makes it about Hillary Clinton instead.

lmfao the alt-right are thoroughly cucked by how triggered they are.

 

[Waygeek]

Yeah wanna try that one again chief? When you have put together some kind of decent post because that was incomprehensible.

 

[DarkFlare69]

I'm not politically bias either way, so please don't accuse me of being a Trump supporter just because I'm defending him in this case. I just have a brain and can think for myself.

I saw the original clip of Trump and he never suggested that people should inject Clorox or Tide or anything like that, this is 100% made up by the democrats, and then it spread more and more over Twitter and now people believe this is what he suggested and don't question it at all. What actually happened is he asked if it was possible to somehow clean the lungs with some kind of disinfectant. He was not saying this is the almighty solution, he did not tell anyone to do it, he did not even mention actually doing it in practice, all he did was ask if it was possible for them to look into something of this nature. Didn't you guys ever learn about the principle of charity? I highly doubt it. It's very obvious and very clear that Trump did not intend for people to inject Clorox or anything like that into their bodies. I can't believe I have to actually explain this.

If it sounds like I'm mad, that's because I'm tired of seeing dumbass shit on a daily basis. Even in times like these, people still have to do whatever they can to try and make Trump look as bad as possible, while not helping the situation at all. Maybe instead of sitting on Twitter all day and talking about how bad Trump is, people can actually contribute to the solution or do something productive? Of course not, that's silly.

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How many of you actually watched the brief, and heard what Trump said (and not what the media is spinning)?

I don't believe that anyone who's fighting against Trump for what he said actually watched it. That would make me lose even more hope in humanity. Nobody can be that stupid to twist what Trump said legitimately think he told people to inject Bleach into their bodies. I hope it's just a misunderstanding and none of these people actually watched it, or else we have a lot bigger problems than Coronavirus on our hands...

 

[Waygeek]

I'm not politically bias either way

this is 100% made up by the democrats

lmfao.

"Let me just preface this with a lie, don't accuse me of being dishonest."

I've seen the clips. Unless you're suggesting they're deepfakes planted by 'the democrats', you're wrong, and he's wrong.

 

[Xzi]

I saw the original clip of Trump and he never suggested that people should inject Clorox or Tide or anything like that

Do I need to pull the clip? Yes, he totally threw this idea out there. You could say "hE wAs OnLy aSkInG quEsTioNs," but firstly, that's a lame excuse, and secondly, it's almost even more smooth-brained that, in all his years on Earth, he hasn't learned cleaners and disinfectants are poison to humans. These are the types of questions that are usually asked and answered in a second grade classroom, FFS.

 

[DarkFlare69]

lmfao.

"Let me just preface this with a lie, don't accuse me of being dishonest."

I've seen the clips. Unless you're suggesting they're deepfakes planted by 'the democrats', you're wrong, and he's wrong.

I can tell you're not very good at thinking critically, given how fast you are to assume I'm lying without even knowing me.

Would you mind sharing links to the clips that you watched? And would you mind using direct quotes in your next post, quoting exactly what Trump said about disinfectant? This will make sure we're all on the same page.

 

[Xzi]

Timestamp for the quote is 2:06.

 

[Waygeek]

I can tell you're not very good at thinking critically, given how fast you are to assume I'm lying without even knowing me.

I can tell you're not very good at thinking critically, because you think you must 'know someone' to know that they're lying.

You don't.

Yep, that's the clip. Love how this big brain genius comes up with an idea that could kill the virus 'in a minute' that tens of thousands of medical professionals didn't think of. Egg on their face eh.

Frankly, he sounds senile.

Do people think genuinely smart people mention their intelligence like Trump does? Because they really don't...

 

[DarkFlare69]

I can tell you're not very good at thinking critically, because you think you must 'know someone' to know that they're lying.

The reason I said that is because if you knew me then you would know I'm not a republican, but you were so quick to assume that based off of 1 post I made.

Meanwhile on the first page of this thread, you called Foxi4 "alt-right" just because he said Trump's job as president was "acceptable."

These posts give me a reasonable suspicion that trying to argue with you is useless, so I will not be responding to you further unless you say something funny or utterly ridiculous.

Do I need to pull the clip? Yes, he totally threw this idea out there. You could say "hE wAs OnLy aSkInG quEsTioNs," but firstly, that's a lame excuse, and secondly, it's almost even more smooth-brained that, in all his years on Earth, he hasn't learned cleaners and disinfectants are poison to humans. These are the types of questions that are usually asked and answered in a second grade classroom, FFS.

So we saw the same clip, that's a good start. It was pretty obvious that he only mentioned the injection of disinfectants into the body because of the nature of the previous segment. They were talking about how bleach kills the virus in under a minute, and Trump was incorporating bleach/disinfectants into his speech to stay relevant to the topic. Of course I don't think his idea was genius. But I also am able to see past it and not dwell on something he asked with good intentions. At the core, he was asking if it was possible to disinfect the lungs. That's a pretty reasonable thing to ask, even if it's been explored already. He also obviously did not mean toxic disinfectants that will kill you, he was implicitly referring to non-toxic forms of disinfectants (if those can be made for human use). He's not a doctor nor a scientist.

 

[RyDog]

I can tell you're not very good at thinking critically, because you think you must 'know someone' to know that they're lying.

You don't.

Yep, that's the clip. Love how this big brain genius comes up with an idea that could kill the virus 'in a minute' that tens of thousands of medical professionals didn't think of. Egg on their face eh.

Frankly, he sounds senile.

Do people think genuinely smart people mention their intelligence like Trump does? Because they really don't...

Uh... where is he suggesting that people inject themselves with Clorox/bleach or whatever you guys are saying that he said?
In that video, I can see that Bill Bryan, the lead for Science and Technology Directorate is briefing about ways that they're combating COVID-19. He's talking about the half life, yada yada, and how it varies when exposed to UV lights.
Actually, I found a transcript here if you'd like the text version.
Nowhere does it say that he was suggesting that we inject ourselves with bleach.
Quoted from the breifing I linked above

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.

THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s — that’s pretty powerful.

I still fail to see where he suggested it. It looks more like him directing these questions to Mr. Bryan, and he's almost in awe in how they've progressed in killing the virus, just speculating if the same procedure for killing the virus on surfaces will work on humans. Am I wrong for thinking he's just speculating and not telling us to inject ourselves with bleach?

 

[Waygeek]

The reason I said that is because if you knew me then you would know I'm not a republican, but you were so quick to assume that based off of 1 post I made.

Yet you quack like one, funny that.

I don't believe you. You are choosing to die on a very strange hill for him. Ergo, I believe you to be a liar.

Meanwhile on the first page of this thread, you called Foxi4 "alt-right" just because he said Trump's job as president was "acceptable."

I said that because he is, and that's not what he said at all.

These posts give me a reasonable suspicion that trying to argue with you is useless

Says the guy making very, very feeble attempts to fool people.

It was pretty obvious

Nope.

Trump was incorporating bleach/disinfectants into his speech to stay relevant to the topic.

Not a single person prior to him was talking about INTRODUCING BLEACH INTO THE HUMAN BODY.

But I also am able to see past it

"I am willing to see past the guy is a fucking moron when he should absolutely not be a fucking moron."

At the core, he was asking if it was possible to disinfect the lungs. That's a pretty reasonable thing to ask, even if it's been explored already.

Not in an internationally broadcasted briefing, and not if you stop to think for a singular second that there are tens of thousands of medical staff around the world who didn't have this big brain idea for a reason.

He's not a doctor nor a scientist.

Or any kind of intelligent individual.

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Uh... where is he suggesting that people inject themselves with Clorox/bleach or whatever you guys are saying that he said?

Genius; if he's talking about introducing a liquid into the body, how would you suggest that be done other than via a fucking injection? You think it is better if he was talking about SWALLOWING BLEACH?

HERE: THIS is how people are interpreting this morons words, STOP CLAIMING OTHERWISE.
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-maryla...-asking-if-its-ok-ingest-clorox-after-1500274

 

[Xzi]

He's not a doctor nor a scientist.

That's precisely the problem, he can't just let experts speak without interjecting himself into every conversation and Q&A session, even when he has zero knowledge about the subject being discussed. His ego always gets in the way. Then he ends up saying something that's either dangerous, stupid, or dangerously stupid. Other countries DO elect doctors and scientists to leadership positions. We elected the town crackhead.

 

[RyDog]

Genius; if he's talking about introducing a liquid into the body, how would you suggest that be done other than via a fucking injection? You think it is better if he was talking about SWALLOWING BLEACH?

HERE: THIS is how people are interpreting this morons words, STOP CLAIMING OTHERWISE.
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-maryla...-asking-if-its-ok-ingest-clorox-after-1500274

You're twisting his words. He's asking (had to make font big in order to get the point across.) If it is possible. Not "yOu sHoUlD gO DriNk sOmE blEaCh gUys! COVID go bye bye!" - Liberal, 2020

Clearly Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. That's why you ask questions. He's relaying the questions he asked to Mr. Bryan as he's just wondering if the same procedures for countertops will work on humans, as Mr. Bryan said they were effective.

That's precisely the problem, he can't just let experts speak without interjecting himself into every conversation and Q&A session, even when he has zero knowledge about the subject being discussed. His ego always gets in the way. Then he ends up saying something that's either dangerous, stupid, or dangerously stupid. Other countries DO elect doctors and scientists to leadership positions. We elected the town crackhead.

We elected him though. And when was the last time we had a candidate that was a doctor or scientist?
It always seems like one party things the other party is an idiot. I agree, he is pretty dumb, but the media is taking what he said completely out of proportion.

 

[DarkFlare69]

Alright, you got me. You made me laugh so you earned my reply.

Yet you quack like one, funny that.

So I "quack" like one but you're over here not even trying to have a reasonable conversation.

I said that because he is, and that's not what he said at all.

That's exactly what he said. I recommend you go read his post. Here it is, quoted below:

He's a vain womanizer, his areas of expertise are very narrow and he has a penchant for talking about things he should have no business talking about, but so far his job performance is, at the very least, acceptable.

By this post it's very obvious that he's not "alt right" like you suggest.

Says the guy making very, very feeble attempts to fool people.

I don't even understand what you mean by that. I'm not trying to fool anyone..? I'm just giving my thoughts, as you are giving yours. Except mine are a little bit more in line with reality.

That's precisely the problem, he can't just let experts speak without interjecting himself into every conversation and Q&A session, even when he has zero knowledge about the subject being discussed. His ego always gets in the way. Then he ends up saying something that's either dangerous, stupid, or dangerously stupid.

He was given the chance to speak, I don't know exactly how these conferences work, but from what I can tell he did not interject or ask to speak, it just changed over to him (correct me if I'm wrong, of course). Bill Bryan had just finished talking about the uses of bleach and other disinfectants on surfaces. So he asked about potentially finding a similar purpose in the body. It's not the smartest thing ever but it's not as bad as people are acting like it is. There are more important things to worry about.