@FAST6191 @Foxi4
Free speech absolutism only serves to penalise the most vulnerable in society and legitimises views which actively contribute to their dehumanisation and denigration. By exploiting one’s right to free speech to perpetuate anti-trans rhetoric, you exclude trans people from the conversation – this is not the definition of freedom for all.
No one is excluding you by expressing themselves, if you choose to exclude yourself because you dislike some ones views that is your choice. It is not dehumanization to refuse to adopt your shaky dogma, rhetoric, newspeak or your redefining of biology.
Contrary to what crusaders for ‘free speech’ push for, websites have a duty of care to protect their most vulnerable members from hate speech and ideas which deny their humanity
You are not anymore vulnerable than anyone else on a website, you are making yourself a victim.
Many would suggest that instead of ‘shutting down debate’, we must engage with ideas we do not like or that offend us.
No one is making you engage in anything, if you choose to engage in public discourse you may encounter ideas you do not like. Your positions are continually offensive to large swaths of the public, mostly your contempt of western civilization's norms, religion and opposition to freedom of expression. However you will not find me calling for your censorship. [/quote]
But what is there to debate about the following statement that I have seen posted on the site a few times “women do not have penises”? What intelligent or insightful ideas can be brought to the table in a display of such free speech and academic peacocking when we swing back and forth between denying the reality of thousands of trans women around the world and accepting it? It is neither a productive nor a particularly intelligent stance to take that one group’s experience of gender is invalid just because of their genitalia.
Women do not have penis's, a Penis is a biological feature of a male in a dimorphic species. Women also do not have a Y chromosome, men do not have uterus's your feelings and ideology do not dictate biology or how others choose to interpret it or feel about it. Other peoples beliefs, values, identity and interpretations are just as valid as yours.
It is an issue of allowing transgender people to exist without being exposed to trans-exclusionary rhetoric. We are not obliged to engage with ideas that are outright toxic to us and to others.
Welcome to earth, we all hear rhetoric, ideas, speech we find toxic on a daily basis frequently, your not a victim and need to grow the fuck up and stop whining.
No one dislikes you because of how you choose too dress or live like, people dislike you because you whine endlessly, make yourself a victim and continually elevate your importance, ideas and values over others.
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