What is "peaceful" protesting?

[Louse]

wait er uh

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[AmandaRose]

Peaceful protesting is punching cops in the face and calling them pussies

I call that justice for their actions to certain people.

Any time I read about American cops I think of the lyrics from the Clash song Know Your Rights.

Number one
You have the right not to be killed
Murder Is a crime!
Unless it was done
By a policeman or an aristocrat.

 

[Louse]

I call that justice for their actions to certain people.

Any time I read about American cops I think of the lyrics from the Clash song Know Your Rights.

Number one
You have the right not to be killed
Murder Is a crime!
Unless it was done
By a policeman or an aristocrat.

eye for an eye mf
your eye
my haunted metal implement

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in all seriousness tho all of the truly peaceful protests were based on economics
boycotts and trade and delicious salt

but the people dont have that power anymore
we tried with gamestop and it failed at the hands of the lawyer army

 

[Seliph]

we tried with gamestop and it failed at the hands of the lawyer army

When the state refuses the right of the worker to participate in trading Gamestop stocks, the proletariat must take to the streets and seize the means of stock trade. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

-Marx probably

 

[Valwinz]

to be peaceful there is no looting or getting in the middle of roads

 

[lolcatzuru]

not hurting anyone, not destroying anything, basically not breaking any laws. you wanna circlejerk in a park and bitch about stuff? more power to you, you wanna do it on my private property or disrupt the flow of traffic? thats a problem

 

[Louse]

not hurting anyone, not destroying anything, basically not breaking any laws. you wanna circlejerk in a park and bitch about stuff? more power to you, you wanna do it on my private property or disrupt the flow of traffic? thats a problem

fight me

 

[lolcatzuru]

fight me

on what?

 

[Louse]

on what?

the ground dumbass

you talk like you'd prefer if nothing ever gets protested, and thats not very AMERICAN to me mf

nothing gets done unless the big money men are forced to do something about it
if we all just stand in a park and sing jambalaya then they can just ignore us

 

[lolcatzuru]

the ground dumbass

you talk like you'd prefer if nothing ever gets protested, and thats not very AMERICAN to me mf

nothing gets done unless the big money men are forced to do something about it
if we all just stand in a park and sing jambalaya then they can just ignore us

what makes you think they give a damn about you either way? these elitists dont drive, they have drivers, private security, well protected buildings, they dont give a damn what you do, when you burn shit down, they laugh as your taxes go up because now the state has to spend money to fix the shit you broke.

 

[Seliph]

Personally, I don't think there is such thing as a peaceful protest. Even in the protest that Gandhi made, violence is still inflicted on the self. Hunger Strikes obviously not only destroy the body, but even afterwards there are lasting permanent effects on your body and mind that never go away if you've gone on strike for long enough. Bobby Sands knew this, Dolours and Marian Price knew this very well, just to give some examples of other hunger strikers.

Any real protest implies violence, even a protest that is planned to be peaceful will often be met with harsh violent suppression from the state unless the protest is endorsed by the state, implicitly or explicitly. We've seen peaceful candlelight vigils for our dead like Elijah McClain be destroyed by violent police time and time again. By nature a protest is a movement against the state, and if the state wants to protect its interests then said protest will be met with violence. Generally if you aren't being beaten up by cops you're probably doing something wrong, regardless of whether or not you are the one that incited violence (historically it has usually been cops or other state forces that incite violence, and I could give many examples to support this).

Truly peaceful protest is a liberal lie, and acting like violent protests haven't achieved many social gains for oppressed groups is ahistorical. The state will never peacefully cede power unless it is beneficial to the state or if the cost of violence is greater than retaining certain powers. I obviously don't like violence, but when you protest a violent and oppressive state it is inevitable that you will be met with violence. Martin Luther King Jr. knew this very well when he marched from Selma to Montgomery.

I just find it funny that "patriots" will wax poetic about the 1776 revolution but still act like violent protest is bad/an ineffective means of social change because that's 100% untrue and denies centuries of historical precedent set by revolutionaries.

 

[Louse]

what makes you think they give a damn about you either way? these elitists dont drive, they have drivers, private security, well protected buildings, they dont give a damn what you do, when you burn shit down, they laugh as your taxes go up because now the state has to spend money to fix the shit you broke.

thats very sad but true

i suppose the least we could do is not fight amongst ourselves
we cool?

 

[lolcatzuru]

thats very sad but true

i suppose the least we could do is not fight amongst ourselves
we cool?

oh yea idgaf what anyone says, i dont know gba temps policy on things but protesting is not the answer, the FIRST answer is unity. This dumb shit where we have to stroke the ego of people is insane, look we are all people, we eat sleep and poop, have a nice day, lets focus on the fact that we have communist leaders in our states and focus on fixing THAT problem.

Our whole election system is fucked. Why do we have someone, regardless of party tell us what they are gonna do for us and never do them? show us you are capable by making things happen and THEN you are worthy of that position, not promises that can't be kept.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

Personally, I don't think there is such thing as a peaceful protest. Even in the protest that Gandhi made, violence is still inflicted on the self. Hunger Strikes obviously not only destroy the body, but even afterwards there are lasting permanent effects on your body and mind that never go away if you've gone on strike for long enough. Bobby Sands knew this, Dolours and Marian Price knew this very well, just to give some examples of other hunger strikers.

Any real protest implies violence, even a protest that is planned to be peaceful will often be met with harsh violent suppression from the state unless the protest is endorsed by the state, implicitly or explicitly. We've seen peaceful candlelight vigils for our dead like Elijah McClain be destroyed by violent police time and time again. By nature a protest is a movement against the state, and if the state wants to protect its interests then said protest will be met with violence. Generally if you aren't being beaten up by cops you're probably doing something wrong, regardless of whether or not you are the one that incited violence (historically it has usually been cops or other state forces that incite violence, and I could give many examples to support this).

Truly peaceful protest is a liberal lie, and acting like violent protests haven't achieved many social gains for oppressed groups is ahistorical. The state will never peacefully cede power unless it is beneficial to the state or if the cost of violence is greater than retaining certain powers. I obviously don't like violence, but when you protest a violent and oppressive state it is inevitable that you will be met with violence. Martin Luther King Jr. knew this very well when he marched from Selma to Montgomery.

I just find it funny that "patriots" will wax poetic about the 1776 revolution but still act like violent protest is bad/an ineffective means of social change because that's 100% untrue and denies centuries of historical precedent set by revolutionaries.

But a black guy stole a tv once or something

 

[lolcatzuru]

ill probably get in trouble for saying this but the real answer was what happened in january after the alleged steal which i will not comment on. What did we do? we went into the senate building which is illegal, even though we own it because its paid for with tax dollars. was there loss of life? absolutely i do not condone that, but what i do condone is that message, do you wanna know why they called it a riot? because they were scared, because for the FIRST time in american history we saw something we didnt like and we sought to change it the right way

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

because for the FIRST time in american history we saw something we didnt like and we sought to change it the right way

[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

 

[lolcatzuru]

[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

what, specifically did that achieve?

 

[Seliph]

for the FIRST time in american history we saw something we didnt like and we sought to change it the right way

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-am...ss/history/did-african-american-slaves-rebel/ (slave rebellions)
https://www.history.com/topics/gay-rights/the-stonewall-riots (stonewall riots)
https://blog.education.nationalgeog...w-a-riot-helped-to-ratify-the-19th-amendment/ (suffragettes movement)
https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/selma-montgomery-march (Selma-Montgomery march)
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article148667224.html (Black Panthers march on the Capitol)

The first time? What the hell are you talking about lol.

I could find more but these are the first that came to mind.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-am...ss/history/did-african-american-slaves-rebel/ (slave rebellions)
https://www.history.com/topics/gay-rights/the-stonewall-riots (stonewall riots)
https://blog.education.nationalgeog...w-a-riot-helped-to-ratify-the-19th-amendment/ (suffragettes movement)
https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/selma-montgomery-march (Selma-Montgomery march)
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article148667224.html (Black Panthers march on the Capitol)

The first time? What the hell are you talking about lol.

I could find more but these are the first that came to mind.

Here's another example, you may or may not have heard of these guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States

 

[Seliph]

Here's another example, you may or may not have heard of these guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States

I don't really endorse their goals or mentality but I do support my fellow gays in solidarity so I have no choice but to *ahem* stan