California Court SHUTS DOWN Transgender Pronoun Law

[SG854]

My definition for Dysphoria came from a Webmd, we disputing them as right wing crack pots this week? As far I know it's a perfectly reasonable source for a quick description of a condition.

It's not my fault it's a medical condition when they want hormone treatments, surgery or special accommodations and a perfectly normal state of birth when they want to be offended.

We don't remove body parts and provide long term pharmaceutical treatments to physically healthy typical people and when we do it's cosmetic, not a health issue.

Here is a quick write up on the legal and ethical status of cosmetic surgery on minors, but the common consensus is no.
https://www.law.uh.edu/healthlaw/perspectives/Bioethics/981230Cosmetic.htm

It is ridiculous to conflate a person who has genetic abnormalities with a perfectly typical healthy person without those conditions based on their feelings, a person without legs or paralyzed is not the same as someone who decides they don't want to walk.

So we have a typical human without medical issues and a penis, it doesn't take a medical professional to know what the word for that is.

I get my information from neuroscientists and sex researchers

And I'm going to have to do some agreeing and disagreeing with you.


It is true that some activists push unscientific things. Many researchers leave academia because of all the bullying they receive. So research work there has been corrupted. If Ray Blanchard the main guy behind the DSM task force being banned from Twitter wasn't an indicator already that researchers are bullied and have their friends and families targeted for not following ideology not backed by science.


With that said researchers that do follow actual science and not corrupted science will still tell you that transgender is not a mental disorder. Not all trans like you said are dysphoric. Not all physically transition with surgery. Not all are mentally depressed by their own transgenderism. Only depressed by others causing their depression. If someone is bullied you at school and become depressed you don't blame the victim. You target the bullies. You may teach the victim to better mentally cope with the bullying. But is still not the fault of the victim.

Many have genetic abnormalities that don't negatively affect the person. Like an extra finger or toe or something. That doesn't mean anything. And it's only a problem and a mental disorder if their own transgenderism (and not from bullying) is causing them feeling depressed and maybe suicidal. So this is where treatment and treating it like a mental disorder will make sense because the goal is to get them to not kill themselves.

But not all Transgenders are depressed and suicidal, and many are happy. So there is no need to treat them or treat it like a disorder if they are enjoying life (again considering outside sources like bullying). Mental disorders are only considered Mental disorders if there is something negatively affecting them and negatively affecting their life. But if transgenderism isn't negatively affecting their life and they go through everyday just fine then it's not a mental disorder.


And I do agree that young children should not transition. But older people once they reach a certain age should have the freedom to do as they see fit with their bodies.

 

[RocaBOT]

But not all Transgenders are depressed and suicidal, and many are happy

I may add: most of those who are depressed and suicidal are so because of others being assholes to them, just like you said two paragraphs before. So indeed, the cause is on those who cannot accept for the life of them that people may be diverse and different, and are so sure about that they're willing to bully anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "dimorphic humans".

 

[jimbo13]

I may add: most of those who are depressed and suicidal are so because of others being assholes to them, just like you said two paragraphs before. So indeed, the cause is on those who cannot accept for the life of them that people may be diverse and different, and are so sure about that they're willing to bully anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "dimorphic humans".

Are you complaining about bullying and harassment or acceptance. Not the same things, not incumbent of anyone to accept or include someones life style or behavior they don't care for.

I don't include or accept anyone who deviates from the Swanson pyramid of greatness.

 

[RocaBOT]

Please, just shut up, you're not making any sense and your being an asshole has been demonstrated enough times to not need more examples.

 

[The Catboy]

Are you complaining about bullying and harassment or acceptance. Not the same things, not incumbent of anyone to accept or include someones life style or behavior they don't care for.

I don't include or accept anyone who deviates from the Swanson pyramid of greatness.

The fuck are you on about? Lol

 

[SG854]

Are you complaining about bullying and harassment or acceptance. Not the same things, not incumbent of anyone to accept or include someones life style or behavior they don't care for.

I don't include or accept anyone who deviates from the Swanson pyramid of greatness.

 

[Deleted member 560282]

Are you complaining about bullying and harassment or acceptance. Not the same things, not incumbent of anyone to accept or include someones life style or behavior they don't care for.

I don't include or accept anyone who deviates from the Swanson pyramid of greatness.

....what in the fuck

 

[tabzer]

Your input is noted and still wrong and garbage. Trans people are real and they are the gender they say they are, either respect them or be called an asshole. Transphobia is a harmful practice that has cost the lives of innocent people and is far more harmful when people pretend it should be respected. It shouldn't be respected, period. I don't care what you have in your pants, respect for individuals is not determined by the junk in their pants.

I totally agree that people should respect people. When are you going to start?

If you are going to respect people, maybe you shouldn't be a liar and spend your time getting mad at people who don't enjoy your LARP.

Oh, wow, could you be any more hateful? That does settle it, for the second time. Thanks for playing.

Did that 100% true fact about reality bother you?

 

[The Catboy]

I totally agree that people should respect people. When are you going to start?

If you are going to respect people, maybe you shouldn't be a liar and spend your time getting mad at people who don't enjoy your LARP.



Did that 100% true fact about reality bother you?

You don’t deserve respect. Respecting people who’ve only ever disrespected me would be respect wasted. Your first interaction with me was editing my quotes, from there you’ve just been a piece of shit on this site. On the topic of this thread, transphobia doesn’t deserve any form of respect.

 

[jimbo13]

You don’t deserve respect. Respecting people who’ve only ever disrespected me would be respect wasted. Your first interaction with me was editing my quotes, from there you’ve just been a piece of shit on this site. On the topic of this thread, transphobia doesn’t deserve any form of respect.

Oh you don't respect people who don't share your values or culture and don't want them associating with you?

Welcome to everyone else's stance.

 

[The Catboy]

Oh you don't respect people who don't share your values or culture and don't want them associating with you?

Welcome to everyone else's stance.

Lol, you of all people believing you have some moral high ground. You treat people with as much respect as you have sources for your bullshit claims.

 

[tabzer]

You don’t deserve respect. Respecting people who’ve only ever disrespected me would be respect wasted. Your first interaction with me was editing my quotes, from there you’ve just been a piece of shit on this site. On the topic of this thread, transphobia doesn’t deserve any form of respect.

Though I don't agree with your recollection of our interactions, I think we can both say that I deserve respect, because I am a person. If gender is a social construct, then it is possibly as real as god. Are you ready to accept Jesus as your savior?

 

[The Catboy]

Though I don't agree with your recollection of our interactions, I think we can both say that I deserve respect, because I am a person. If gender is a social construct, then it is possibly as real as god. Are you ready to accept Jesus as your savior?

No, to just all of that. You don’t deserve respect, provide proof for some of your nonsense and maybe you might earn a little respect.

 

[tabzer]

No, to just all of that. You don’t deserve respect, provide proof for some of your nonsense and maybe you might earn a little respect.

I don't even know if you are real person. That seems like it would be a waste of effort.

 

[The Catboy]

I don't even know if you are real person. That seems like it would be a waste of effort.

I’ve already stated multiple times in the past that I am demon that lives on the server but at least I can provide sources to back up my posts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[tabzer]

But kudos to you, admitting that people aren't inherently worthy of respect. At least I can see that you are self-loathing in your projections.

"Proof is only what I agree with"

-Lilith Valenstein

 

[The Catboy]

But kudos to you, admitting that people aren't inherently worthy of respect. At least I can see that you are self-loathing in your projections.

"Proof is only what I agree with"

-Lilith Valenstein

What do you gain from distracting trans people? How are trans people wronging you by existing and wanting to be respected? What’s the point in going through all of this when trans people are going to keep going on and living their life with or without your input?

 

[Xzi]

But kudos to you, admitting that people aren't inherently worthy of respect. At least I can see that you are self-loathing in your projections.

"Proof is only what I agree with"

-Lilith Valenstein

Some people truly aren't worthy of anyone's respect, like fascists and billionaires.

 

[tabzer]

Some people truly aren't worthy of anyone's respect, like fascists and billionaires.

I disagree. There is an appropriate way to respond to people in all kinds of different situations, including fascists and billionaires. If you respect the living, you are respecting those people by not selling yourself to them.

 

[Xzi]

I disagree. There is an appropriate way to respond to people in all kinds of different situations, including fascists and billionaires.

There is an appropriate way to respond to those groups, yes, and it's eliminating them by force for the former, eating them for the latter (literally or metaphorically, your choice).