By the way, how are people already banned on the Switch? I heard rumors of Switches being banned...*cough* Switch *cough*
By the way, how are people already banned on the Switch? I heard rumors of Switches being banned...*cough* Switch *cough*
I dont think this falls in line with the online bans because when you buy your system you're buying the console not the online services and privilegesSo. Apparently in Nintendo's terms of use (and many other companies) if you buy their product, you don't 100% own it, and these companies can seize their property back at any moment in time, and you basically aren't allowed to do anything you want to it because it's not yours technically. Well not anymore more. A ruling came down, that now makes companies change there terms, and now when you buy a product from them, it is 100% yours, and you can modify (CFW) resale, and do anything you want to it. So the fact that Nintendo banned people for using CFW for minor things like save back ups, and streaming could now force Nintendo to un ban these individuals.
The case is called
Impression Products, Inc v. Lexmark International, Inc
Look it up, good read, may be a fantastic step in the right direction. I'm pumped to read this, because now a lot of these companies will be forced to back off when it comes to user made content.
Thanks for your time.
Agreed. Besides, we can always unban ourselvesI dont think this falls in line with the online bans because when you buy your system you're buying the console not the online services and privileges
True, but when you buy a game, you're purchasing access to the game, that game's online services, and other things that you should be allowed to purchase.I dont think this falls in line with the online bans because when you buy your system you're buying the console not the online services and privileges
They are? The fuck?By the way, how are people already banned on the Switch? I heard rumors of Switches being banned...
I thought that whole comment you made was because you heard the rumors too... No? Well, apparently people are getting the same error code that 3DS users are getting right now... However, this is a rumor, so I would take it with a grain of salt...True, but when you buy a game, you're purchasing access to the game, that game's online services, and other things that you should be allowed to purchase.
They are? The fuck?
*cough* Switch *cough*
I highly doubt that people are being banned ALREADY.I thought that whole comment you made was because you heard the rumors too... No? Well, apparently people are getting the same error code that 3DS users are getting right now... However, this is a rumor, so I would take it with a grain of salt...
Edit: There isn't any proof yet AFAIK, but if someone was banned, they probably did something they shouldn't've....
I highly doubt that people are being banned ALREADY.
Nevermind, @duffmmann says they aren't, and he's pretty trustworthy.... If they were, they probably deserved it XDWe aren't talking about the Switch, and no one has been banned yet on the Switch. The 3DS doesn't and as of now, will not have a payment-based online model. As such this will not affect anyone banned on the 3DS, and thats just the reality of it, like it or not (I obviously don't like it as someone that is banned on the 3DS, but it is what it is, and I understand it).
Nevermind, @duffmmann says they aren't, and he's pretty trustworthy....
They hired white hats to help with patching exploits for the switch as well, and 4 people have been payed last i checked. So it could be going very well for them and it was a smart move.This seems too good to be true.If Nintendo don't care what we do then why did they hire white hats to help patch up exploits? Obviously that hasn't worked very well for Nintendo since we now have full bootrom control over the system so them making a update to block arm9 control is pointless since we can fix it quickly and the 3ds needs arm11 to function properly so they can't do anything to that.They have been desperately trying to block hombrew launcher access so no one can get into the kernel,but that seems to fail aswell.We clearly won over the system.But Nintendo has full control over the servers we play on,which is the problem.
True, but when you buy a game, you're purchasing access to the game, that game's online services, and other things that you should be allowed to purchase.
Probably not, it's the same with other online services such as PSN or Xbox Live...I think the Switch would have to be hacked first before Nintendo started banning users on the system. Now if when the Switch is inevitably hacked, the payment-based online service is up and running, and Nintendo bans users, perhaps such users could have legal ground to get such bans reversed. But even then I really wouldn't hold my breath.
So. Apparently in Nintendo's terms of use (and many other companies) if you buy their product, you don't 100% own it, and these companies can seize their property back at any moment in time, and you basically aren't allowed to do anything you want to it because it's not yours technically. Well not anymore more. A ruling came down, that now makes companies change there terms, and now when you buy a product from them, it is 100% yours, and you can modify (CFW) resale, and do anything you want to it. So the fact that Nintendo banned people for using CFW for minor things like save back ups, and streaming could now force Nintendo to un ban these individuals.
The case is called
Impression Products, Inc v. Lexmark International, Inc
Look it up, good read, may be a fantastic step in the right direction. I'm pumped to read this, because now a lot of these companies will be forced to back off when it comes to user made content.
Thanks for your time.
Agreed, online play is more like a privilege, not a necessity for the console to function. Besides, we have tutorials on how to unban ourselves for a reason XDI do not believe these cases are the same thing, but an interesting post, and ink cartridge price gouging is a huge consumer problem.
Lexmark claimed those that repackaged and sold their empty ink cartridges were illegal. Nintendo blocked access to portions of their online servers.
Arguing DMCA gives a consumer the right to modify their console makes more sense, but Nintendo didn't disable any critical functions - they can argue that a modified console poses a security risk to their online server.
So it seems that they where protecting the switch more than the 3ds from the looks of things.The switch had a web browser found and nothing else that I can recall,by that time they patched everything anyway while the 3ds got opened up even wider than a cave.They hired white hats to help with patching exploits for the switch as well, and 4 people have been payed last i checked. So it could be going very well for them and it was a smart move.
they can argue that a modified console poses a security risk to their online server.