Covid-19 vaccine

[Xzi]

Like I said: the auspice of "the greater good". Try reading before responding next time.

If your entire worldview is individualistic and narcissistic, nobody is gonna give a shit about your opinions on about collectivist action and the steps necessary to ensure public health and safety. It's not a concept as nebulous as the "greater good," the results have always spoke for themselves when it comes to vaccination.

 

[tabzer]

If your entire worldview is individualistic and narcissistic, nobody is gonna give a shit about your opinions on about collectivist action and the steps necessary to ensure public health and safety. It's not a concept as nebulous as the "greater good," the results have always spoke for themselves when it comes to vaccination.

You obviously give the shit about what you are projecting, dumbass.

 

[RetroGen]

"Chatgpt, please tell me how to invalidate someone's personal experience."

Right, so let's try it your way....

Your personal experience is always right. Whatever you feel is valid. Facts are whatever you decide they are. If you don't want vaccines because that fits with you biases and preconceptions, or what you read on Twitter, you are absolutely right to do so. Any scientific or medical authority who thinks they know better about science or medicine is some sort of arrogant elitist, probably a globalist, fascist, or communist, and definitely not to be trusted over your own gut. Your perspective is the only one that matters in the entire cosmos. Your gut knows best and always has. Don't trust the science; those people are part of The Establishment and out to get you, probably as a form of population control, as they pad their own pockets with sweet government handouts. Remember, forget the science and always trust your gut!

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

Again, throwing this out there.

Are ANY of you considering that there are a lot of us who simply stopped giving a fuck a long time ago, and there is no moral argument you can offer that will make us give a shit about this unproven, ineffective and harmful vaccine?

Some of us GENUINELY wish most of the human race would die from a plague or pandemic. I am one of them. There are millions more just like me.

What is your argument to entice someone who hopes that the entire human race is decimated (by the actual dictionary definition of the word) to accept a jab, or to believe in the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters?

 

[RetroGen]

What would be the point in trying to convince someone who welcomes mass death of the safety and efficacy of a vaccine that mitigates that goal? And if the vaccines really are so dangerous and deadly, more so than COVID-19 itself, such a person ought to promote their use to hasten the culling. In such a case, it would seem irrational to be an antivaxxer if vaccines add to the body count. More vaccines = more death = good times!

 

[Zajumino]

How many times do I have to say that being vaccinated doesn't only protect the person who is vaccinated? I feel like a broken record already.

To be fair, in the case of the covid, being vaccinated probably doesn't make much of a difference in that regard. Given the minimal effect on reducing transmission, the fact that the majority of people already have natural immunity, and the price per dose, I would say it's very much not worth it.

I guess I should emphasize the price some more. If you want vaccinations to be effective till the end of time, you would have to take at least one per year. So it would cost more than $100 per person per year, which is a lot.

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

What would be the point in trying to convince someone who welcomes mass death of the safety and efficacy of a vaccine that mitigates that goal? And if the vaccines really are so dangerous and deadly, more so than COVID-19 itself, such a person ought to promote their use to hasten the culling. In such a case, it would seem irrational to be an antivaxxer if vaccines add to the body count. More vaccines = more death = good times!

I am not anti-vaxx. Most vaccines have been proven to work to prevent the development or spread of disease.

THIS rushed and constantly changing vaccine? For SARS? Not so much.

If you're going to die from SARS, a jab isn't going to help you. And I don't care, either way. I already had it, recovered in a couple of weeks, and have no concern even if I got a new variant.

All I needed was chicken noodle soup, ginger ale and NyQuil.

The South Park episode "Cherokee Hair Tampons" gave me everything I needed to get through this pandemic.

Which should illustrate how silly this hysteria is.

 

[titan_tim]

Again, throwing this out there.

Yes, yes, your suuuuuuper edgy cry for attention has been noted. Now feel free to do other things elsewhere.

 

[RetroGen]

Well, again, personal anecdotes are not a reliable source of epidemiology data. The majority of people do not die from COVID-19; but some do, and others get long-COVID. Multiple peer reviewed studies have shown that the vaccines significantly reduce the prevalence of serious illness and death. The vaccines were rushed into use because millions of people were dying from a novel coronavirus (meaning no one had any pre-existing natural immunity), as a way to prevent even more excess death. And the formulations keep changing as a response to the rapid evolution of the virus.

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

Yes, yes, your suuuuuuper edgy cry for attention has been noted. Now feel free to do other things elsewhere.

As long as YOU paid me attention, that's all that matters. My day is complete, warmed by your affection. You took time out of your day to address little old me.

Is this what love feels like? My body is ready.

Warning: I am not vaccinated.

 

[titan_tim]

Is this what love feels like?

Who could have guessed that a misanthropist would ask this?

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

Who could have guessed that a misanthropist would ask this?

I prefer "existential nihilist".

"Planet conservationist".

"All-around super sexy bad-ass with a heart of gold".

Those are more accurate.

 

[titan_tim]

I prefer "existential nihilist".

I don't. So misanthropist stays.

"Planet conservationist".

George Carlin said it best.

"All-around super sexy bad-ass with a heart of gold".

If that were true, you wouldn't be here trying to find love on a message board.

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

I don't. So misanthropist stays.

George Carlin said it best.


If that were true, you wouldn't be here trying to find love on a message board.

I am no longer trying to find love. I found it.

We're going to be very happy together. I am a great hugger. I snore sometimes, though.

Also, side bonus. I can put my legs behind my head. Or yours. Or both. I'm in for some titan_tim.

Buckle up, Buckaroo.

Can't we both be right? Can't deny that I am a misanthrope. I agree with Agent Smith, Randall Flagg and Thanos. I see humanity as the cancer of the planet.

I love George Carlin, and he's right, too. The world WILL recover after we are gone, and it's just a rock with a bunch of living shit on it.

I am just tallying up the score. We ARE the most harmful species to ever exist, and we cause the death and suffering of more OTHER species than just our own than any other form of life in history, with the exceptions of bacteria and virii. Mosquitos, if you're going to move up into higher lifeforms.

The COVID-19 exists to destroy; a harmful virus that threatens the life and well-being of billions of one form of life on this planet. If one cares about that lifeform, then COVID-19 should be destroyed by any means necessary. Or, it should be mitigated as much as possible to prevent it doing any more harm than is the absolute avoidable minimum.

I am just looking at humanity in the same light, across all epochs of human history. The parallels are self-evident.

Misanthropy might just be a more moral point of view than you think, if the REST of the planet's life is what you really care about.

 

[titan_tim]

I am no longer trying to find love. I found it.

We're going to be very happy together. I am a great hugger. I snore sometimes, though.

Also, side bonus. I can put my legs behind my head. Or yours. Or both. I'm in for some titan_tim.

Buckle up, Buckaroo.

I'd probably split you like dry wood, but it's your funeral

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

I'd probably split you like dry wood, but it's your funeral

No fear of that. I pride myself on being moist. Just in case anyone hates that word.

MOIST. Most moist am I.

 

[titan_tim]

Panic at the disco?! Just add in My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy, and you have the edgy emo trifecta!

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

Panic at the disco?! Just add in My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy, and you have the edgy emo trifecta!

Full disclosure; I had to look that up. I've never listened to Panic at the Disco on purpose in my life.

I was going for a Negan meme and couldn't find one that only had him saying "Don't threaten me with a good time".

I have failed you and myself. I'll do better.

 

[titan_tim]

I was going for a Negan meme and couldn't find one that only had him saying "Don't threaten me with a good time".

Yeah, surprising I can't find that gif anywhere! That's a pretty good one. You could have also gone with:

 

[NoobletCheese]

As for your question of "if it works, then why would it matter if someone else chooses not to", this is also another very common question that has more than likely been answered to you many times over, but you choose to ignore. The most people who have lesser symptoms leaves less of a chance to spread the virus.

I think it's important to note that "less of a chance to spread the virus" is not equivalent to "less of a chance to contract the virus". Earlier I used a leaking bathroom tap analogy where the leak was slowed from 10L/min to 5L/min and noted this will still flood the bathroom, it will just take longer. Additionally the leak returns to 10L/min after 6-12 months ("waning immunity").

Even before it floods the bathroom, if we are tolerating a 5L/min leak then we are tolerating a certain level of risk that shows we're not really that afraid of 5L/min leak that would warrant such egregious violation of the social contract of medical consent.

Imagine the year is 2018 and there is no Covid, and therefore no risk of Covid. In this scenario surely you could see how it would be morally disastrous to have mandates. So the only difference between moral disaster and moral justification is the presence of the threat of Covid. So if I can show that I'm not a Covid threat, then the mandates are morally disastrous.