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Drift Monkey said:
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My only point was that the bailout transferred the debt onto the American taxpayers...so I wouldn't see why foreigners would be against it...

And forced us to nationalise the debts of many our banks as well. Us pesky foreigners have certainly not done well out of the global finacial crisis, bail out or not.
To get to the true root of this though...it's because of a failed economic system as a whole. The Federal Reserve is killing the dollar daily...and the people are standing by and letting it.

And yet recently the dollar has gone from lower than I can remember (edit, lower than it's ever been during my lifetime) against the pound to higher than we've seen for ages. Which is an enormous ball-ache for me, because I've been used to buying stuff off the internet at an exchange rate of 2 dollars to the pound and now stuff seems to cost me a fortune instead of being cheap as chips.
 

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Szyslak said:
Just got back from voting a little while ago. Gonna go relax and have a beer and watch states turn red and blue. Damn I miss Tim Russert.
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I would have voted for him in a heartbeat.

@Drift Monkey & Jiggah: You guys should just chill for everyone's benefit. You aren't that far apart, and you're sounding like the two drunk guys in a college bar having the same philosophical argument that's been rehashed thousands of times on those very barstools. We get it.
I am that drunk college guy!
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QUOTE(Drift Monkey @ Nov 5 2008, 01:26 AM) My only point was that the bailout transferred the debt onto the American taxpayers...so I wouldn't see why foreigners would be against it...

And forced us to nationalise the debts of many our banks as well. Us pesky foreigners have certainly not done well out of the global finacial crisis, bail out or not.
To get to the true root of this though...it's because of a failed economic system as a whole. The Federal Reserve is killing the dollar daily...and the people are standing by and letting it.

And yet recently the dollar has gone from lower than I can remember (edit, lower than it's ever been during my lifetime) against the pound to higher than we've seen for ages. Which is an enormous ball-ache for me, because I've been used to buying stuff off the internet at an exchange rate of 2 dollars to the pound and now stuff seems to cost me a fortune instead of being cheap as chips.
Honestly, I didn't know it hit you guys that hard. The ripples really can be felt far off. A shame.
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I'm not all that educated in the UK's economics...but is the pound gold based or fiat? Do you use a central bank?
 

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Drift Monkey said:
BlueStar said:
Drift Monkey said:
BlueStar said:
Drift Monkey said:
My only point was that the bailout transferred the debt onto the American taxpayers...so I wouldn't see why foreigners would be against it...

And forced us to nationalise the debts of many our banks as well. Us pesky foreigners have certainly not done well out of the global finacial crisis, bail out or not.
To get to the true root of this though...it's because of a failed economic system as a whole. The Federal Reserve is killing the dollar daily...and the people are standing by and letting it.

And yet recently the dollar has gone from lower than I can remember (edit, lower than it's ever been during my lifetime) against the pound to higher than we've seen for ages. Which is an enormous ball-ache for me, because I've been used to buying stuff off the internet at an exchange rate of 2 dollars to the pound and now stuff seems to cost me a fortune instead of being cheap as chips.
Honestly, I didn't know it hit you guys that hard. The ripples really can be felt far off. A shame.
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I'm not all that educated in the UK's economics...but is the pound gold based or fiat? Do you use a central bank?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England

Probably more than you'd ever want to know!
 

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BlueStar said:
Remembering back to the history of American Revolution....I do remember one of the primary reasons the colonists felt wronged by England and a primary reason why there was a revolution: they were unable to use their own money and were forced to borrow money to use from the Central Bank of England at interest. Funny how we find ourselves in the same damn situation over 2 centuries later...it's really due time for a new revolution...
 

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Op, it went down to 183 vs 81.

EDIT: DAMN changed to 163 vs 81.
What they're doing is assuming certain state's votes and merging them with confirmed votes.
 

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Obama has basically just won as he has just acquired Ohio, there are no possible routes for McCain to win.
It's game over for McCain.
 

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juggernaut911 said:
It is impossible for McCain?

I would vote McCain

Pretty much. He needed to win all Bush states, which he has lost OH and NM now according to MSNBC. OH is damaging in that it's 20 electoral votes.
 

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