Dolphin Emulator team officially abandons planned Steam release

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Almost two months ago, the team behind the Dolphin Emulator announced that they had put their planned Steam release on hold indefinitely following a cease and desist order from Nintendo, but did not cancel their plans outright, instead promising to review their options and come back with a more detailed response in the future. In a new blog post today, the Dolphin team explained what happened in more detail and what this means for the future of Dolphin.

The blog post begins by giving a more detailed account of what happened back in May. Valve's legal department initiated contact with Nintendo to inform them of Dolphin's upcoming release on Steam; in response, Nintendo of America requested Valve block the release, citing the anti-circumvention provisions in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Valve then told the Dolphin team they needed Nintendo's approval before they would allow the emulator to release on Steam. The Dolphin team believes, given Nintendo's long history of fighting emulation, that this will be impossible and have officially cancelled all plans to release Dolphin on Steam.

Much of the conversation surrounding Dolphin's removal from Steam revolved around the Wii Common Key. This is what the Wii uses to decrypt its games, and has been publicly available online (and in Dolphin's code) for more than 15 years. However, Nintendo cited the use of "proprietary cryptographic keys" in its letter to Valve, claiming that because the "Dolphin emulator operates by incorporating these cryptographic keys without Nintendo’s authorization" it constitutes a violation of the anti-circumvention provisions in the DMCA.

This section of the DMCA states that "no person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title" and also prohibits the trafficking of any technology that "is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." In this case, Nintendo believes that the encryption on Wii games counts as a technological measure to control access to a copyrighted work, and that Dolphin's primary purpose is to circumvent those measures through decryption.

However, the Dolphin team is confident that this will not affect Dolphin in any way going forward. They argue that Dolphin's primary purpose is to "recreate the GameCube and Wii hardware as software, and to provide the means for a user to interact with this emulated environment" and that only a very small portion of their code relates to circumvention. GameCube games have no encryption on them, and Dolphin is also used to develop game mods or homebrew games.

They also believe they are covered by the reverse-engineering exemptions laid out in the same anti-circumvention provisions. The reverse engineering exemption states that it is okay to circumvent these control measures to enable "interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs."

"Dolphin is an independently created computer program that is circumventing Wii disc encryption for interoperability with Wii software," reads Dolphin's blog post. "According to this exemption, this does not constitute infringement under 17 U.S.C. § 1201."

As such, the Dolphin team will not remove the Wii Common Key from future releases, and firmly believe Dolphin is not in any legal danger. They will continue to develop and improve Dolphin, and even plan to implement some features intended for the Steam version; namely, a Big Picture GUI mode that is fully usable with a controller.
 

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Nah, it just seems like Valve didn't want to be in trouble rather than be an arbiter. They would be the ones hosting the emulator, after all, if they approve it.
They'd have no legal liability as host, Nintendo would send them a polite request to take down the store page and that would be that. Dolphin's developers would be wholly fucked, however, unless they could come up with enough cash for a REALLY good lawyer. It's clear which party had the most to lose here.

They likely can whenever they want, but likely don't really care unless it gets into their attention, like Steam telling them.
Absolutely nothing on the internet escapes the Nintendo ninjas' attention, their legal department is almost surely their biggest department. There is only stuff they can do something about, and stuff they can't.
 

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Well, at least they did their research on the legal issues of the matter. Nintendo can't legally stop them if what they're doing is acceptable by law. Besides, why should Nintendo care about games like Rec Room Party Games or Disney's Guilty Party, since they were never released anywhere outside of the Wii platform and received mediocre reviews? Their only concern is potential piracy of the AA and AAA titles on the platform, but that's not the goal of Dolphin Emulator anyhow.
 

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Circumventing...... what exactly is it Circumventing, nothing of nintendo.

Ohh wait, so its because this, thought it doesnt link to nor include, can run free to download backups.

Well, why should we be forced to rebuy the same recycled shit over and over, they no longer support that console anymore, so why shouldn't we be able to enjoy it still without having to buy it again on its current inferior pile of crap hardware.

Just proved how nintendo cant even emulate its own shit to be fair, even its very own n64 emulator is a sack of shit.

Look at everything others have done, they do better than nintendo, including the fucking switch and how its just proves it all.
 
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Ofcourse they're not gonna take them on, they're not stupid. Why fight a losing battle like that to eventually have your whole emulators existence pulled from reality altogether as would probably be the eventual outcome if they did fight.

Valve obviously shit themselves and either naively or cunningly thought to seek out never coming authorization to host it when again, if it's on the Android Playstore i dont see why it can't be on Steam.


Yep, Valve chose to exonerate themselves, knowing Nintendo would naturally take all the flak. It's well known Nintendo will target just about anything related to Nintendo they aren't making money from.

The more fun and enjoyment it brings people, the more resources Nintendo must invest in destroying it, it's their new motto (I think).
 
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I'm actually kind of glad that this is how things ended up? Ninty didn't decide to go after Dolphin in total, but basically just told them "No, you can't be on Steam without our permission and we're not giving our permission."

Which I have to echo the sentiment: why did we need Dolphin on Steam?
 

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Which I have to echo the sentiment: why did we need Dolphin on Steam?
It would have provided automatic updates and Steam Cloud, two features that would have been useful for Steam Deck users and those who play on multiple devices. Yes both of these could have been done manually otherwise (like Syncthing), but the appeal was that you wouldn't need to set anything up because it would just work.
 

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Really mad about this. Yes, yes Wii/GC emulation on Steam is a big no, no in general but Nintendo is still really pissing me off. Spend your time doing something more important.
yeah like spend more on game QA and not on legal matters (maybe we would hate you less if you make less bugged games)
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Thats a weird way to say that Nintendo is wrong for protecting their property.
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Deal with it.
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No one cares
here's my opinion GET BENT
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I'm actually kind of glad that this is how things ended up? Ninty didn't decide to go after Dolphin in total, but basically just told them "No, you can't be on Steam without our permission and we're not giving our permission."

Which I have to echo the sentiment: why did we need Dolphin on Steam?
that doesn't mean that's their next target
 
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I think Nintendo did it right this time. I would have NEVER paid money for a Wii/Gamecube emulator that lets you play ISOs that you can download for FREE on the Internet.
 
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Since Gamecube games have barely any encryption, it would be quite possibly to fork Dolphin into a Gamecube only emulator without those copyrighted Wii keys.
 

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Circumventing...... what exactly is it Circumventing, nothing of nintendo.

Ohh wait, so its because this, thought it doesnt link to nor include, can run free to download backups.

Well, why should we be forced to rebuy the same recycled shit over and over, they no longer support that console anymore, so why shouldn't we be able to enjoy it still without having to buy it again on its current inferior pile of crap hardware.

Just proved how nintendo cant even emulate its own shit to be fair, even its very own n64 emulator is a sack of shit.

Look at everything others have done, they do better than nintendo, including the fucking switch and how its just proves it all.

Dolphin is circumventing the encryption on Wii games. It doesn't really matter if the common key is included, or if it's brute-forced. The DMCA has provisions against the very act of decrypting without authorization.
 

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