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Can we update using the bundled system update in game carts (or their backup XCI) when in SX OS?

No, at this point in time a "card could not be read" error is shown instead.

So you update with SXOS running? I always thought this would work since 1.2 it should stop fuses from popping. So it's confirmed then, it seems easier but at the same time risker.

I'm not sure if you can update in SX OS, but I would recommend updating in OFW. Once updated and AutoRCM is set up again, you boot into the SX OS menu and if a future system update is available, you launch OFW from their launcher again. You just have to remember that you MUST enter RCM manually after every system update due to its removal.
 

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GOOD NEWS! I can confirm that you can update through system settings here is what you need to do (and after I Can explain how i "safely tested this before doing it"
0.backup nand and boot and store on pc
1. have your sx dongle plugged in, as well as the rcm jig
2. boot up
3. go to system settings and start update
4. This is key watch closely, as soon as the update is done (or just before) hold VOL +
* you don't need to hold power just vol +
5. the system will auto reboot and due to jig and VOL+ it will go into rcm despite not pressing power (cool right)
6. when sx menu comes up reinstall rcm autoboot
7. boot fcfw

You should now have 5.1 or whatever you just updated to with auto rcm protecting you and fuses intact. I compared my fuses using other payload to be sure.

oh so how I figured this out:
I disabled rcm autoboot, and tested to make sure it wasn't there
then while powered up I put the jib and sx pro widget in, and held power button till power menu came up and I clicked restart and immediately held vol+ and the sx menu booted up, basically proving the power button was not necessary and that all that was needed was vol+ (and pin 10 grounded) at start up or even restart. Not only that I tested this with a charger too. YOu know how when you plug in a powered off switch it turns on, so I tried it with jig and plugged into my computer while holding vol + then with tegra rcm smash loaded a payload and it worked (no power button necessary)

Wow, this is great and much less simpler than the other upgrading method. So far i have a Switch on 4.1.0 which is clean (No homebrew or NAND backup) and would like to do the same as you. However, my SD card is currently formatted as exFAT and thus can't be used on my switch, can i just confirm that what i will proceed to do now is correct?

1. Change 200GB SD card to FAT32 format (i don't even think it's possible, can anyone help?) or should i just use a 64gb SD card to set up first and copy paste the files over to the 200gb once i have everything set up?
2. use hekate and backup my NAND as per quantumboy instructions
3. follow through with the rest, saw the video with the updating, once it starts with the pop up, i should hold the volume up button.
4. install SX OS and install autoRCM (if i have not activated SX OS, can i still get auto RCM to work?)

Can i know the limitations of using this way to upgrade my firmware? I can no longer boot into the OFW? Thanks for the help everyone

Edit: would also like to know if i remove SD card, will the switch boot into OFW after i power on the NS?
 
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Method working. But what the heck is not said, in the autorcm when the cable is connected to the PC, the horizon is auto loaded. At first everything was ok, 3 burned fuses. But later did not have time to pinch + and send the payload as the horizon started, and -6 fuses
 

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Method working. But what the heck is not said, in the autorcm when the cable is connected to the PC, the horizon is auto loaded. At first everything was ok, 3 burned fuses. But later did not have time to pinch + and send the payload as the horizon started, and -6 fuses
Let this be a warning to anyone else... follow the guide or risk burning your fuses. It seems like a huge pain, but it's better than blowing your fuses over something as simple as not holding the volume button in time.
 

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GOOD NEWS! I can confirm that you can update through system settings here is what you need to do (and after I Can explain how i "safely tested this before doing it"
0.backup nand and boot and store on pc
1. have your sx dongle plugged in, as well as the rcm jig
2. boot up
3. go to system settings and start update
4. This is key watch closely, as soon as the update is done (or just before) hold VOL +
* you don't need to hold power just vol +
5. the system will auto reboot and due to jig and VOL+ it will go into rcm despite not pressing power (cool right)
6. when sx menu comes up reinstall rcm autoboot
7. boot fcfw

You should now have 5.1 or whatever you just updated to with auto rcm protecting you and fuses intact. I compared my fuses using other payload to be sure.

oh so how I figured this out:
I disabled rcm autoboot, and tested to make sure it wasn't there
then while powered up I put the jib and sx pro widget in, and held power button till power menu came up and I clicked restart and immediately held vol+ and the sx menu booted up, basically proving the power button was not necessary and that all that was needed was vol+ (and pin 10 grounded) at start up or even restart. Not only that I tested this with a charger too. YOu know how when you plug in a powered off switch it turns on, so I tried it with jig and plugged into my computer while holding vol + then with tegra rcm smash loaded a payload and it worked (no power button necessary)

I gotta say this is a great discovery! That said I have a few questions, for step 7 does that mean boot custom firmware? What's Fcfw mean? Also is it possible to boot original FW using this method to update games? If not, how would one go about updating games and using online? Would they just have to do it through SX OS and risk getting banned? Thanks for the help in advance.
 

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I gotta say this is a great discovery! That said I have a few questions, for step 7 does that mean boot custom firmware? What's Fcfw mean? Also is it possible to boot original FW using this method to update games? If not, how would one go about updating games and using online? Would they just have to do it through SX OS and risk getting banned? Thanks for the help in advance.
Just a typo for cfw I think. I'm interested in the answers for your other questions too. Any tried before?
 

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Circling back to recommend you just do the rajkosto guide. It's really straightforward and took me about 30 minutes. Running 5.1.0 now.
 
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GOOD NEWS! I can confirm that you can update through system settings here is what you need to do (and after I Can explain how i "safely tested this before doing it"
0.backup nand and boot and store on pc
1. have your sx dongle plugged in, as well as the rcm jig
2. boot up
3. go to system settings and start update
4. This is key watch closely, as soon as the update is done (or just before) hold VOL +
* you don't need to hold power just vol +
5. the system will auto reboot and due to jig and VOL+ it will go into rcm despite not pressing power (cool right)
6. when sx menu comes up reinstall rcm autoboot
7. boot fcfw

You should now have 5.1 or whatever you just updated to with auto rcm protecting you and fuses intact. I compared my fuses using other payload to be sure.

oh so how I figured this out:
I disabled rcm autoboot, and tested to make sure it wasn't there
then while powered up I put the jib and sx pro widget in, and held power button till power menu came up and I clicked restart and immediately held vol+ and the sx menu booted up, basically proving the power button was not necessary and that all that was needed was vol+ (and pin 10 grounded) at start up or even restart. Not only that I tested this with a charger too. YOu know how when you plug in a powered off switch it turns on, so I tried it with jig and plugged into my computer while holding vol + then with tegra rcm smash loaded a payload and it worked (no power button necessary)
Thank you for this I've been waiting for someone brave enough to try this. I will still not do it however since the cart fw gets updated also. That was not an issue for you.

Any reason one can't just hold the VOL+ button the whole time instead of trying to it at the last minute. You know, for peace of mind. I'd clamp the thing down.
 
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I gotta say this is a great discovery! That said I have a few questions, for step 7 does that mean boot custom firmware? What's Fcfw mean? Also is it possible to boot original FW using this method to update games? If not, how would one go about updating games and using online? Would they just have to do it through SX OS and risk getting banned? Thanks for the help in advance.

Thank you for this I've been waiting for someone brave enough to try this. I will still not do it however since the cart fw gets updated also. That was not an issue for you.

Any reason one can't just hold the VOL+ button the whole time instead of trying to it at the last minute. You know, for peace of mind. I'd clamp the thing down.

I've tried this shortcut method and it works. I believe step 7 means CFW.

I've updated from 4.1 to 5.1 using this method (eFuse burnt 5 - checked using briccmmii) got my exFAT sd card working as well. Selected boot OFW from sx os and updated my official game cart, have not tried updating my xci files .

Not sure about the clamping part but I guess it would work. I held it when it says updating, do note that I almost screwed up and got an orange screen of death (when i selected boot via OFW) during the process of updating I forgot to include boot.dat in my SD card and sx os did not launch.. restarted and all was fine (luckily for me)

You can take this risk if you have SX Pro and don't mind accidentally upgrading to 5.1 I guess.

EDIT: Pls backup your NAND before you attempt anything!
 
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what if i deleted all the system mommy (reset the system). and than updated and after the update i reinstall the sx os would that also be a risk ?
 

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GOOD NEWS! I can confirm that you can update through system settings here is what you need to do (and after I Can explain how i "safely tested this before doing it"
0.backup nand and boot and store on pc
1. have your sx dongle plugged in, as well as the rcm jig
2. boot up
3. go to system settings and start update
4. This is key watch closely, as soon as the update is done (or just before) hold VOL +
* you don't need to hold power just vol +
5. the system will auto reboot and due to jig and VOL+ it will go into rcm despite not pressing power (cool right)
6. when sx menu comes up reinstall rcm autoboot
7. boot fcfw

You should now have 5.1 or whatever you just updated to with auto rcm protecting you and fuses intact. I compared my fuses using other payload to be sure.

oh so how I figured this out:
I disabled rcm autoboot, and tested to make sure it wasn't there
then while powered up I put the jib and sx pro widget in, and held power button till power menu came up and I clicked restart and immediately held vol+ and the sx menu booted up, basically proving the power button was not necessary and that all that was needed was vol+ (and pin 10 grounded) at start up or even restart. Not only that I tested this with a charger too. YOu know how when you plug in a powered off switch it turns on, so I tried it with jig and plugged into my computer while holding vol + then with tegra rcm smash loaded a payload and it worked (no power button necessary)

just to say i followed this method just now on my 4.0.1 switch and it works great. i didn't have to press vol+ from the start instead when the update is done and the switch will reboot in 3 seconds i quickly press vol+ and it boots me to sxOS menu. from there i installed autoRCM and booted to OFW to check f/w version (5.1.0). rebooted to sxOS and load briccmiiv2 payload and efuses count still 5. thanks @quantumboy for the tutorial and @Draxzelex for pointing me to this tutorial. next step, nand 5.1.0 backup.
 
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just to say i followed this method just now on my 4.0.1 switch and it works great. i didn't have to press vol+ from the start instead when the update is done and the switch will reboot in 3 seconds i quickly press vol+ and it boots me to sxOS menu. from there i installed autoRCM and booted to OFW to check f/w version (5.1.0). rebooted to sxOS and load briccmiiv2 payload and efuses count still 5. thanks @quantumboy for the tutorial and @Draxzelex for pointing me to this tutorial. next step, nand 5.1.0 backup.
how long did it take you to finsh the whole proccess, im a noob just like you and i wanna know how long would it take a noob to get that done
 

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I really want to follow this guide now, but my last question is doesn't autorcm mess up your battery? Like to the point you can't even really turn it off, it'll just constantly be in RCM mode?
 

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Not even updating from a legit cart using the SX Pro method above?
Updating from a legit cartridge is the same process as updating from the Switch; they will both cause the Switch to reboot to try and burn the fuses. If you want to update from a cart as safely as possible, follow quantumboy's procedure.
 

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