Huh... I see this thread is still going strong and that it's turned into another "right vs left" thread.
You keep using terms like strawmen but I am not sure we follow the same definitions there, or at least I am in no way aiming to set them up. Don't know if this is some kind of dismissal tactic.The pile of strawmen you've thrown our way is so vast that finding a needle in it would be a Herculean effort.
All we're saying is that systemic racism (and by extension white privilege) are major problems.
We're not asking you to ignore any other major problems.
We're asking you to accept that this is one, and stop complaining about the laughably small amount of effort it takes to RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS A THING THAT EXISTS AND SHOULDN'T, and that your prior ignorance of it was likely due to having said privilege yourself.
It's as simple as "ok yeah that's a problem, I'll try to take it into account when looking at a situation that might involve it".
The sheer amount of willful ignorance, deliberate denial, strawmen and distraction you've displayed rather than accept that a problem exists and that internal bias may have prevented you from noticing it is a BAFFLING new level of stubborn. (And considering how obstinate I can get at times, that's saying a lot.)
Age is quite a jump over what it is right now(3)
Database
(A)
In general
The Attorney General shall establish and maintain a database of all firearms registered pursuant to this subsection.
(B)
Access
The Attorney General shall make the contents of the database accessible to all members of the public, all Federal, State, and local law enforcement authorities, all branches of the United States Armed Forces, and all State and local governments, as defined by the Bureau.
(c)
Licensing system
(1)
Requirements
(A)
General license
Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, the Attorney General shall issue to an individual a license to possess a firearm and ammunition if the individual—
(i)
has attained 21 years of age;
(ii)
after applying for the license—
(I)
undergoes a criminal background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system established under section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, and the check does not indicate that possession of a firearm by the individual would violate subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 or State law;
(II)
undergoes a psychological evaluation conducted in accordance with paragraph (2), and the evaluation does not indicate that the individual is psychologically unsuited to possess a firearm; and
(III)
successfully completes a training course, certified by the Attorney General, in the use, safety, and storage of firearms, that includes at least 24 hours of training; and
(iii)
demonstrates that, on issuance of the license, the individual will have in effect an insurance policy issued under subsection (d).
Well, that escalated uncomfortably quickly. It's hard to remember so many people in this thread, but at this point I'm assuming you're a Trumper trying to straw-man us into looking stupid.
Though there is a significantly less dark solution here: education. People are substantially less likely to believe baseless nonsense if they've received prior education that in some way disproves said nonsense!
Let's run through this list of bullshit.When I see people willing to throw out parts of the Constitution, radically change how elections are conducted to make audit and verification impossible, pack the Supreme Court, impose economic and social punishment on anyone who expresses dissent, all to seize power and silence opposition and make sure it stays that way, I know what type movement I'm looking at.
Let's run through this list of bullshit.
1) "Throw out" and "amend" are very different things. The Constitution was made amendable from the start so that things could be changed or fixed when necessary.
2) What? How would "change things so that popular vote actually matters" do either of those things?
3) Since when did we try to pack the Supreme Court? We certainly didn't cram in an extra member a month before a general election, against reason, our own previous objections to a lesser case thereof and the dying wishes of their predecessor, did we?
4) We're not "imposing" anything. If someone performs actions, they suffer the consequences of those actions. Be an asshole? Congrats, a lot less people will like you or want to buy your shit.
5) "All to seize power and silence opposition"? What the fuck has even IMPLIED that is the goal here?
You've proven you are in fact a Trumper, and one of the worse ones to boot.
Also... Extremists? What? Nobody on this thread is all that extremely left, and I'm pretty moderate. Trump and his goons are just so off-the-scale batshit crazy that basically everything seems extremely left in comparison.
Not everything vaguely opposed to your political views is some sinister takeover attempt by lunatics with Orwellian intent.
Looking for someone to give me a small loan of 1,400 dollarsI love the concern trolling in regards to Trump. A quick reality check tells me that not one of you will ever be as rich as Trump will be when he's "poor".
The UK is racist did you fix your racism issue yet ?Can't it have both? Can't they be related?
It would appear that the problem with poverty is there is a large chunk of people don't like the idea of helping those who don't "deserve it", with each person having their own definition of what that is based on their own prejudice.
Because you have it. It's like breathing, you only think about it when it's not there.
The term "extreme left" lost its meaning as of late, not so much because it's any less extreme, but because anything right of Obama is now considered fascism. In fact, every now and then I hear murmurs that even good old Barack wasn't woke enough to meet today's standards. They can't see the lack of any tolerance for opposing points of view because leftism is not a system of political thought, it's a religion. If you're conservative, you're not wrong - you are evil. Your point of view isn't different, it's malicious. You're not a discussion companion, you're an enemy. Trying to reason with anyone when these are the terms of engagement is a wasted effort.sure, ok.
Projecting much?The term "extreme left" lost its meaning as of late, not so much because it's any less extreme, but because anything right of Obama is now considered fascism. In fact, every now and then I hear murmurs that even good old Barack wasn't woke enough to meet today's standards. They can't see the lack of any tolerance for opposing points of view because leftism is not a system of political thought, it's a religion. If you're conservative, you're not wrong - you are evil. Your point of view isn't different, it's malicious. You're not a discussion companion, you're an enemy. Trying to reason with anyone when these are the terms of engagement is a wasted effort.
What lies?Projecting much?
I'm fine discussing with Republicans.
However, Trump and his truckload of lies are something I simply cannot stand, and the constant and irrational defense thereof borders on a personality cult.
also wow "leftism is a religion and they think everything right of obama is fascist" is probably the shittiest take I've seen this month
Too many to list on my own, but here's a handy article.What lies?
Too many to list on my own, but here's a handy article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...04b69a-5c1d-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html
Literal tens of thousands of falsehoods.
"Leftism is a religion." Because we didn't just have Trump people attack the Capitol based on lies and wanted to do things like hang members of their own party.
If you extrapolate that same percentage, you're still left with around 22,500 lies in the span of one term.https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...ump-untruths-is-about-25-fake-news-2019-04-29
That's about it when it was 10,000. I think the question is more about how you were hurt by one of Trump's "lies".
I'll start. He didn't drain the swamp. Hillary isn't in jail. Terrible show.
Excuse me, what?The lie is that Trump people attacked the capitol. If you watched his unedited videos, you can see that it was the media trying to stir violence and not Trump. The people who paid more attention to the media were more apt to do something like that than those who actually listened to Trump.
If you extrapolate that same percentage, you're still left with around 22,500 lies in the span of one term.
If Trump was Pinocchio, his nose would be in another galaxy by now.
"It'll go away like a miracle"You caught the low hanging fruit, now tell us about how you counted on one of Trump's promises and were let down.
"I'll release my new amazing healthcare plan in 2 weeks"Yeah, I'm waiting on that too.
Excuse me, what?
Trump told his supporters the election was stolen and that they have to fight like hell to "fix" it.
The Capitol riot was a mob of Trumpnuts, plenty of which said after the fact that they joined the riot because Trump told them to.