Hacking NDS to get official Opera based web broswer?

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QUOTE said:
and you know what, probably if you get laid, you'd end up being less of an ass to everyone.
One would think that... Nah, I won't go there. I bet you would, but I won't.
QUOTEexcited over something new
New is the key word. You try to find out why.

Hell, look at both answers below and above yours.
Those are polite and even informative answers.

754boy: About the tuner, yeah, I kinda missed that.
Thanks for bringing it up.
 

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just dont buy it if you dont want it =/
the browser cart really appeals to me more than i thought it would.. mainly because when i go to gaming cafes with my friends and they end up playing boring ass games of warcraft, i wont have to spend any money just to turn on a computer and browse the net..


plus browser cart and tv tuner for DS... think of the porn
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Christ, why's everyone getting hyped over this?
Web browser: The PSP has it.
Tv tuner: The friggin' Game Gear had it. It's 10+ years old.

There is no new stuff here.
Move along.

I personally don't give a damn about the TV tuner, but the browser will be nice. The PSP browser totally sucks ass, it's basically useless. We're talking about portable Opera, with stylus controls and virtual keyboard. Plus, the zoomed in top screen will make things actually easy to read. Besides some expensive PDAs, this has the option to be THE best mobile internet usable out of the pocket. I can see myself using this quite often to research something, or check my mail, news, weather, or my ebay auctions on the go.

I can understand most people wouldn't be very interested, but for some of this could be crazy useful.
 

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Nintendo said it would include an antenna capable of picking up programs broadcast for mobile devices.

Does it mean that it will be DVB-H device? OMG, this is useless all around the world, except from Japan, South Korea and very few of the EU countries.
 

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Here's some more reading, this time from Gamespot.com
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6144345.html
...it's a long read, so I've "highlighted" the important stuff for those of you who just want to skim through... cliff-notes

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DS will surf Web, watch TV
[UPDATE] Opera Web browser and digital TV tuner announced for Nintendo's handheld; new utilities and games galore also discussed at presentation in Tokyo.

When the Nintendo DS was first announced, it was largely seen as a gaming machine. When compared to its main rival, the PlayStation Portable, some called it "a kid's machine," since it didn't have the flashier multimedia functions like the PSP.

Even without the ability to browse the Internet or listen to MP3s, the DS has enjoyed greater retail success than its competitor, in part due to the system's relative affordability (currently $129.99 versus the PSP's price tag of $249.99) and Nintendo's track record in the portable market.

Now it appears that the so-called "kid's machine" is growing up. At the D.I.C.E. Summit held in Las Vegas last week, Nintendo announced that the DS would soon support voice over IP, a function that will let DS users chat in real time, thanks to the machine's integrated microphone. Though currently planned to work in the pre- and post-game lobbies of only one title, Metroid Prime: Hunters, there is likely to be more in store for the DS's VoIP capabilities in the future.

According to an announcement made by Nintendo today, the plans for the DS's future don’t stop at VoIP. At a press conference in Japan, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata revealed that the handheld will soon have the ability to surf the Web and watch digital television broadcasts.

[UPDATE] President Iwata has revealed the Nintendo DS Browser, a Web browser made by Oslo, Norway-based Opera Software. The browser will be based on Opera's PC Internet browser but will take advantage of some of the DS's integrated capabilities. The browser will be cartridge-based and is slated for release in Japan this June at the price of 3,800 yen ($32). Nintendo is considering shipping the product overseas.

Browsing will take place on both screens, and an onscreen keypad and the stylus will control navigation and input. The DS's two screens can be used to show off a single Web page, or the DS can scale down a site to fit on one screen and use the other to zoom in on a portion of the site.

Rather than using the D pad and buttons to input text, DS owners can use the stylus to write on the DS's touch screen, which features PDA-style handwriting recognition. The browser will also feature an onscreen keyboard.

The DS will double as a television. Iwata unveiled a new accessory that lets users watch TV broadcasts on the DS. The product is tentatively named DS Chijouha Digital Housou Jushin Card (DS digital-broadcast receiver card) and will be compliant with the new 1seg broadcast service, a digital signal designed for mobile devices, which will launch in Japan this April. 1seg broadcasts run in QVGA resolution (320x240 pixels).

The DS digital-broadcast receiver card will snap into the handheld's DS cartridge slot and feature an extendable antenna. The TV will be displayed on the upper screen, and the bottom screen will have buttons that can switch channels. Nintendo had a sample of the broadcast tuner running at the conference, but it was a prototype that used the Game Boy Advance cartridge slot. No release date has been announced for the product yet.

President Iwata said that the DS has shipped 6 million units in Japan so far, and it has reached the milestone in record time. He attributed his company's success to what Nintendo calls the "Touch! Generation" games, the titles targeted toward general audiences rather than hardcore gamers. Games in the series include Nintendogs and Yawaraka Atama Juku (Big Brain Academy), both of which have attracted audiences from the nongaming crowd.

Seven DS titles have already sold over a million units in Japan, an impressive feat for a console that's only been on the market for a little over a year. More than half of them were Touch! Generation titles. Nintendogs (1.18 million units sold), Big Brain Academy (1.14 million), Brain Age (1.8 million), and Motto Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Brain Age sequel, 1.54 million) all sold over a million units. The other games that sold over a million were Mario Kart DS (1.54 million), Animal Crossing: Wild World (2.17 million), and Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop (1 million).

Trumpeting numbers was high on the docket for Nintendo today. Over the past three months, the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service has received 900,000 unique users and over 22 million connections. Iwata said that Nintendo's goal is for all owners of the DS to try the Wi-Fi service at least once and plans to increase the number of Wi-Fi station terminals located throughout stores in Japan from 800 to 1,000 units by spring. As a new addition to the Nintendo Wi-Fi station, the company plans to offer downloads of games that have been created during its student seminars.

Plenty of new titles were also revealed by Nintendo. This year, the company will release a new version of its Rakubiki Jiten dictionary software, named Kanji Sonomama DS Rakubiki Jiten (Kanji as-it-is Easy Search Dictionary). This will be the second release in the series and will let users search for Japanese Kanji phonetic symbols by simply drawing them on the touch screen rather than having to go through the previous way of searching by stroke counts. The software features three dictionaries from Taishukan publishing, including Japanese-to-English and English-to-Japanese dictionaries, and it has more words than its predecessor.

Another utility announced is DS Bimoji Training (DS Beautiful Letter Training). The software is essentially a tool that lets users practice the clarity of their penmanship. The user writes on the bottom screen, while the top screen shows an example. The DS is held sideways when using the software, making it easier to view the example while trying to mimic it. DS Bimoji Training is currently in development and does not yet have a release date.

Taking the unusual Touch! Generation series in an even more nontraditional direction is Shaberu! DS Ryouri Navi (Talking DS Cooking Navigator). The utility is basically a talking cookbook. Chefs flip through the "pages" with voice commands while the game talks back. The user can input what ingredients are on hand and select a dish that can be prepared or pick a main ingredient (like beef or pork) and sort through a list of available options. No release period has been announced for Shaberu! DS Ryouri Navi.

Aside from Touch! Generations titles, Nintendo also covered a few games that will be released in the months to come. A new Super Mario Brothers has now been announced for a May release in Japan, and Pokèmon Diamond has been reconfirmed for release during the year. A number of third-party games were also unveiled at the conference. Konami's Winning Eleven Soccer series will soon make its debut on the DS and will feature Wi-Fi support. Riding the success of the original, Bandai will release a sequel to the million-plus selling Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop. Also, Sega is bringing its popular Mushiking beetle-battling game to the handheld, as well as Oshare Majo Love and Berry, a DS title targeted toward girls.

The press conference also gave attendees a chance to check out the DS Lite, which will be released on March 2 in Japan. With its new DS model, additional upcoming games, and new multimedia extensions, Nintendo has high hopes for its handheld.

"One of our midterm goals [for the DS] is to reach 10 million units [sold] as early as possible," said Iwata during his closing remarks. "The Game Boy Advance took 30 months to reach 10 million units, and the PlayStation 2 took 32 months. Both of them reached the milestone after two and a half years. But with the support of our wide range of DS customers, and with the help of software makers and distributors, our goal is to reach 10 million cumulative unit [sales] as soon as possible."

By Tim Surette, Hirohiko Niizumi -- GameSpot
Posted Feb 15, 2006 3:01 pm PT
 

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Nintendo said it would include an antenna capable of picking up programs broadcast for mobile devices.

Does it mean that it will be DVB-H device? OMG, this is useless all around the world, except from Japan, South Korea and very few of the EU countries.
From what I read, it will be a 1seg receptor. And service will start in April 2006 and only in Japan
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Also, there is no DVB-H in Korea, but a variant called DMB.
 

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I really can't see the DS screen making a very good browser window so I'm not overly excited about this one. It's a cool gimmick I guess though I doubt I'll use it unless they release fun downloadable content.
 

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Now that I thought about it, it would be awesome if it came bundled with some other simple apps, like a calculator, notepad, wifi pictochat/voip chat, etc. And judging from the little toolbar we've seen at the bottem of the screen, this is very likely. This could make the DS insanely useful, espicially for those that travel around as often as I do, and don't want to drag a laptop around. I can't wait!
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seems that i was wrong about flash support
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at home i only got flash banners, here at school only .gif banners =/
 

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Christ, why's everyone getting hyped over this? Web browser: The PSP has it. Tv tuner: The friggin' Game Gear had it. It's 10+ years old. There is no new stuff here. Move along.
That would require owning a PSP.
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It's like going back to the introduction of camera phones and saying why buy a camera phone when digital cameras had been around longer? Why get an integrated PDA phone when you could have just brought a PDA years ago? Why get the Game Gear tuner when you could just have a portable TV? Why get hyped about the PSP having web support when Mobile Phones have been doing it for years?
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If you want and have the cash to have multiple devices laying around your house then fair enough, but for those of us who rarely buy/can afford new hardware then adding functionality to an existing one is always a good thing.

It's just a shame I'll be out of university before we see it (or the Lite at the rate we're going
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). This campus is literally crawling with WIFI points; there's even one in the pub!
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So I'm reading here that the DS will have a RAM expansion so it can handle this, dunno if this is true, but it sounds true, the DS is rather short in the RAM department for web browsing...

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As details trickle in as to the full extent of Nintendo's browser plans for its increasingly-essential DS portable, fresh information on the technology underpinning the Internet software is starting to trickle out.

To enable a smooth web experience, the DS will receive a RAM upgrade, via the Game Boy Advance cartridge slot. The add-on will be bundled with the Opera browser DS cart, the whole package costing just a shade under 20 quid in Japan. No US or European announcement regarding the surfing software has yet surfaced, though something is expected within the next fortnight.

Nintendo has not disclosed how beefy the injection of RAM will be for the DS, nor has it opted to comment on possible future applications for the memory upgrade. Speculation is rife the the DS will follow in the footsteps of the Nintendo 64, which successfully deployed a RAM upgrade used in games including Perfect Dark, Zelda: Majora's Mask, Turok 2 and Banjo Tooie, though Nintendo declined to comment on the possibility at time of press.
 

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They aer going to put so many kiddiesafe failsafes onto it, you will hardly be allowed to access anything apart from pokemon websites. I look forward to the many 404 errors that will appear.

Would be great if it was configuerd with microphone. options such as back, forward stop, could all be assigned to voice commands and learned llike in nintendogs. Would save a bunch of time.

Somebody said they would have preferred firefox browser. Opera is better for ds since if would be hard to implement many features that define firefox such as extensions, so taking those away, you would be left with an opera type browser anyway.
 

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Christ, why's everyone getting hyped over this? Web browser: The PSP has it. Tv tuner: The friggin' Game Gear had it. It's 10+ years old. There is no new stuff here. Move along.

THE POCKETPC HAD OPERA FIRST AND IT ALSO HAS VOIP SO THERE'S NOTHING NEW HERE EVERYBODY JUST GO BACK TO PIRATING NINTENDO GAMES GODDAMN NINTENDO MAKE ME SOME GOOD GAMES THAT I CAN STEAL FROM YOU
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GODDAMN NINTENDO.

my brain is dying.

Somebody said they would have preferred firefox browser. Opera is better for ds since if would be hard to implement many features that define firefox such as extensions, so taking those away, you would be left with an opera type browser anyway.

Firefox can hardly run on modern systems. It's unfortunate, but there's absolutely no chance of seeing that heavy machine on a DS.
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The DS already has 32MB of expansion RAM in DS mode assuming you have a Supercard or M3 Perfect adapter. I am sure someone will hack Opera to use that memory instead of the official expansion cart.
 

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They aer going to put so many kiddiesafe failsafes onto it, you will hardly be allowed to access anything apart from pokemon websites. I look forward to the many 404 errors that will appear.

Wrong, the browser won't be censored in any way. It'll be just like opera, not watered down. And why would a kid want a browser anyway. This is geared more toward adults on the go.
 

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Has the japanese version of the browser been released? And if so, has anyone tried to import it to see how it works?
 

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Will it have flash Player, Newgrounds on the DS
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Will the actual cart with the software installed, actually be upgradeable? I dont want to get viruses on my DS
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Will the browser be updatable, with security fixes etc.

I dont like how the PSP can be near 100% customised, whereas the DS has an "As it is" mentality.
 

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