Nintendo Is So Not Screwing Around With 3DS Piracy

[machomuu]

I like this. I mean, I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi, but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company.
I miss this...

When your console get brick because of suspicion, I hope you still like it.

Did you even read my post?
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I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi

 

[KingVamp]

I like this. I mean, I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi, but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company.
I miss this...

When your console get brick because of suspicion, I hope you still like it.

Did you even read my post?
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I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi

"but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company"

What I posted didn't just applied to you. With this power they can accidentally brick innocent 3DS' that including yours whether you used
your flashcarts on dsi or not.

Which seem you like, admire this plan...

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I like this. I mean, I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi, but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company.

Are you kidding me? If this bullshit was true, it would be worse than anything that Sony did on these last months. Bricking a console remotely is ridiculous, no matter how you look at it.

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.

 

[Seraph]

So I don't really want to read through the entire thread, but I just have to say...Isn't this just another rumor thing? I mean, we already saw that a store was putting up these signs but there is no proof that flashcarts are actually logged or that consoles will brick. The original Kotaku post just seems like a scare tactic, which is what I like to see on sites like Kotaku.

Hell, I bet that if you were to use a flashcart and try to resell it to a retailer, they'd accept it. Stores put out these warnings (not Nintendo) in response to rumors...which this continues to be.

 

[BloodyFlame]

I like this. I mean, I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi, but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company.

Are you kidding me? If this bullshit was true, it would be worse than anything that Sony did on these last months. Bricking a console remotely is ridiculous, no matter how you look at it.

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.

IIRC, they did, via e-mail.

 

[Maedhros]

I like this. I mean, I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi, but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company.

Are you kidding me? If this bullshit was true, it would be worse than anything that Sony did on these last months. Bricking a console remotely is ridiculous, no matter how you look at it.

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.

Sony warned people. Put the hackers that got sued aside and go look for it.

I'll do it for you:

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=279...t=0&start=0

Sites reported this too. Go look on Engadget for instance.

 

[machomuu]

I like this. I mean, I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi, but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company.
I miss this...

When your console get brick because of suspicion, I hope you still like it.

Did you even read my post?

I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi

"but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company"

What I posted didn't just applied to you. With this power they can accidentally brick innocent 3DS' that including yours whether you used
your flashcarts on dsi or not.

Which seem you like, admire this plan...

I do admire it, but in a Captain Ahab sort of way. This was inevitable, and it was handled effectively as a looming threat rather than a temporary fix as was seen in the past.

QUOTE(Maedhros @ Mar 8 2011, 05:53 PM)

QUOTE(machomuu @ Mar 8 2011, 09:59 PM)

I like this. I mean, I use my flashcarts all the time, and because of that I'm keeping my DSi, but it's admirable how Nintendo is going to such lengths without ruining the experiences of those who don't hack the 3DS like a certain other company.

Are you kidding me? If this bullshit was true, it would be worse than anything that Sony did on these last months. Bricking a console remotely is ridiculous, no matter how you look at it.

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.

Sony warned people. Put the hackers that got sued aside and go look for it.

I'll do it for you:

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=279...t=0&start=0

Sites reported this too. Go look on Engadget for instance.

Well this is a warning too. Don't see how that makes their treatment better. Not saying it's worse, though.

 

[Maedhros]

Bricking a console remotely is against the law in most of the countries, seriously, stop saying this shit is right.

 

[KingVamp]

Bricking a console remotely is against the law in most of the countries, seriously, stop saying this shit is right.

Even if it was legal, it just wouldn't be right. :/

 

[machomuu]

Bricking a console remotely is against the law in most of the countries, seriously, stop saying this shit is right.

I never said it was, nor have I been defending it, just saying that I like the way it was done. It could have been worse.

 

[Seraph]

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.

Can anyone give me the source where Nintendo is making an official statement of a warning? Nintendo's term of agreement says it, but so does most other console's do too. Everyone is getting worked up buy some outrageous sign a SINGLE retailer put up.

 

[Maedhros]

Bricking a console remotely is against the law in most of the countries, seriously, stop saying this shit is right.
I never said it was, nor have I been defending it, just saying that I like the way it was done. It could have been worse.

How do you think they are handling this? It's just on their Terms of Agreement, Nintendo never put anything on their site or related nothing. Right now, this is just a rumor. Actually, Nintendo is handling nothing.

How this even make this situation better?

machomuu

Well this is a warning too. Don't see how that makes their treatment better. Not saying it's worse, though.

Never said it was better. I said no company would brick your console remotely for using whatever you want on it.

 

[machomuu]

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.
Can anyone give me the source where Nintendo is making an official statement of a warning? Nintendo's term of agreement says it, but so does most other console's do too. Everyone is getting worked up buy some outrageous sign a SINGLE retailer put up.

Well, people hear a single phrase and go on a raging riot. It happens.

QUOTE(Maedhros @ Mar 8 2011, 09:41 PM)

Bricking a console remotely is against the law in most of the countries, seriously, stop saying this shit is right.

I never said it was, nor have I been defending it, just saying that I like the way it was done. It could have been worse.

How do you think they are handling this? It's just on their Terms of Agreement, Nintendo never put anything on their site or related nothing. Right now, this is just a rumor. Actually, Nintendo is handling nothing.

How this even make this situation better?

Well, it's not making it worse. I never said it was making it better nor do I believe that.

 

[FluffyLunamoth]

Nintendo isn't stupid. They do this, they'll fall the same way Sony is, only they have NOTHING to back them up. They do video games. Nothing else. They won't do this, I guarantee it. Not unless they want to get sued up the yinyang.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Nintendo isn't stupid. They do this, they'll fall the same way Sony is, only they have NOTHING to back them up. They do video games. Nothing else. They won't do this, I guarantee it. Not unless they want to get sued up the yinyang.

They'll probably be smart enough to make a very expansively worded warning that everyone is supposed to read that essential keeps them out of any trouble if they end up bricking systems because of their firmware updates.

 

[Maedhros]

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.
Can anyone give me the source where Nintendo is making an official statement of a warning? Nintendo's term of agreement says it, but so does most other console's do too. Everyone is getting worked up buy some outrageous sign a SINGLE retailer put up.

Well, people hear a single phrase and go on a raging riot. It happens.

QUOTE(Maedhros @ Mar 8 2011, 09:41 PM)

Bricking a console remotely is against the law in most of the countries, seriously, stop saying this shit is right.

I never said it was, nor have I been defending it, just saying that I like the way it was done. It could have been worse.

How do you think they are handling this? It's just on their Terms of Agreement, Nintendo never put anything on their site or related nothing. Right now, this is just a rumor. Actually, Nintendo is handling nothing.

How this even make this situation better?

Well, it's not making it worse. I never said it was making it better nor do I believe that.

So how the hell do you like this if it was true?

 

[machomuu]

Uh no it isn't. Sony has still done worse. Nintendo is giving people a warning here, sites are reporting it. I don't recall Sony giving any of the hackers a warning.
Can anyone give me the source where Nintendo is making an official statement of a warning? Nintendo's term of agreement says it, but so does most other console's do too. Everyone is getting worked up buy some outrageous sign a SINGLE retailer put up.

Well, people hear a single phrase and go on a raging riot. It happens.

QUOTE(Maedhros @ Mar 8 2011, 09:41 PM)

Bricking a console remotely is against the law in most of the countries, seriously, stop saying this shit is right.

I never said it was, nor have I been defending it, just saying that I like the way it was done. It could have been worse.

How do you think they are handling this? It's just on their Terms of Agreement, Nintendo never put anything on their site or related nothing. Right now, this is just a rumor. Actually, Nintendo is handling nothing.

How this even make this situation better?

Well, it's not making it worse. I never said it was making it better nor do I believe that.

So how the hell do you like this if it was true?

I dunno. I'd have to think about it.

 

[DeMoN]

Really? Another one of these topics.
First you're afraid before the 3DS is released, now you're afraid after it's released.

They will not brick your 3DS remotely. Class action lawsuits are no laughing matter, and even if they win, they lose in the end because of all the bad publicity. A company is only as strong as their customers, remember that.

 

[Rydian]

I think the log would be somewhat useful, but if the DSLite and the DSi can read a flashcart header as a completely different game, then wouldn't the 3DS log it as that game it's pretending to be rather than the actual flashcart? Correct me if I'm wrong.Correct, unless Nintendo put additional checking to the known-faked games see if it really was the game or not... which is what they currently do on the DSi AND the current 3DS firmware... and they just block it from running.

Wouldn't it be somewhat obvious even if this was true ....most of the headers that are used are kinda terrible games.,and if you see someones log spending 500+ hours on say....my cooking coach......wouldn't you be just a little suspiciousMy Healthy Cooking Coach has sold over 75,000, so yes there ARE people who play it.

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Mar 8 2011, 08:05 PM)

Except home-made porn (provided it meets the specifications...) isn't illegal, pirating games is. Personally I think as a pirate you accept the risks of obtaining items illegally, such as retaliation from companies to prevent your piracy, and think Nintendo would be in the right for bricking your system if you're pirating on it. I wouldn't be happy, but it'd accept that it's my fault for not being more careful.

The rumor doesn't mention piracy, just unauthorized modifications, which is generally taken to mean flash carts (in the DS world). Users like you are thinking too hard and reading words that aren't in the notice. You see "unauthorized modifications" and immediately think "piracy on flash carts". Not even counting the legal uses for flash carts, what about OTHER unauthorized hardware? I mean we just had a story recently where a Sony firmware update blocked out some unlicensed controllers, don't forget. The main companies get a cut out of the hardware sales too, so they want to encourage those.

I repeat, this is an anti-piracy wet dream and nothing more. Nintendo has no legal right to do this and they know it. It will not happen.

 

[cruddybuddy]

This is the shit that fucking pisses me off we bought the damn thing we have the right to do any god damn thing to it or on it that we the OWNERS so choose. WE have the right to run anything on it and if that is a flash cart we have the damn right to. They have no rights to tell us that the $300 product that we bought and DAMN RIGHT OWN is not ours to do with what we please.

Of course you can do whatever you want with it, you bought it. And they can implement measures to screw it up if you try to steal their games.

Soooooooo, IN YOUR FACE!