Hacking Hardware Picofly - a HWFLY switch modchip

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you probably need reflow your apu
I doubt that. I had the same result with a V2 yesterday and sadly I got the same BSOD and proceeded to reflow it to no avail.
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i'll try to resolder them, shall i dm you the results later?

Sure thing buddy. Make sure the solder points look round and symetrical. That way you'll know you have a solid connection
 

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Disregarding the blurry photo (maybe clean your camera lens), it looks like you could do with a little more flux/less time with the soldering iron stuck in the pool of solder. Your soldering points should be shiny when soldered correctly. When they are dull (like in your photo) it's usually an indication that you should use more flux.

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I was half a second too slow lol
that's fine, thanks a lot for the advice!
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I doubt that. I had the same result with a V2 yesterday and sadly I got the same BSOD and proceeded to reflow it to no avail.
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Sure thing buddy. Make sure the solder points look round and symetrical. That way you'll know you have a solid connection
im afraid i'll have trouble putting the resistors back, i don't have a microscope and my tweezers suck. should i wait until i buy better equipment?
 

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Any tips for the 3 smallest points on the switch lite? Don't have the diagram handy, but the cluster including Dat0 above the apu and to the left of RST.

For the life of me I can't get them tinned well, let alone soldered. I am not good but managed well enough with the rest.

Already brought the system into the local cell repair shop and they're refusing the work, so it's all me.

Good flux. 30awg enameled wire. Tiny tip, though have been having better results with a larger tapered tip. Microscope too. Everything points to skill issue.

I've settled on getting one of the 3 points done per day, but don't have much faith in myself to get even that done.
 

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that's fine, thanks a lot for the advice!
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im afraid i'll have trouble putting the resistors back, i don't have a microscope and my tweezers suck. should i wait until i buy better equipment?
It will make the job exponentially easier with the right equipment. Don't rush these kinds of mods, do them right and they will work the first time, and keep working for you.
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Any tips for the 3 smallest points on the switch lite? Don't have the diagram handy, but the cluster including Dat0 above the apu and to the left of RST.

For the life of me I can't get them tinned well, let alone soldered. I am not good but managed well enough with the rest.

Already brought the system into the local cell repair shop and they're refusing the work, so it's all me.

Good flux. 30awg enameled wire. Tiny tip, though have been having better results with a larger tapered tip.

I've settled on getting one of the 3 points done per day, but don't have much faith in myself to get even that done.
Do as I did in my message here, click the little arrow at the top of the quote box (next to my name) and it will take you to the post where all the photos are displayed.
I figured I would document my process of how I approached soldering in the tiny and tight areas of the switch lite, along with the close proximity of the pads to each other.

The main philosophy was "if it can be masked with Kapton during soldering, DO IT. Then flux it, solder it, clean it, and cover it in UV-cure resin."

This seemed to be pretty effective, and my only issues were this being my first flex install, I had to make sure I had good contact on the caps and no bridging.

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Here's my V2 flex cable secured to a piece of lumber with electrical tape and kapton to do the finer masking.
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It tinned easily, and soldered easily without worrying about bridging to the side pins.
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Then I cleaned it, demasked it, and covered it in resin.
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Here is the Lite's 3.3v points as called out by the definitive guide. I masked off the small component nearest them with Kapton, tinned the pads...
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soldered my 30awg Kynar to it...
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and then also covered it in resin!
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This is the GND point that has been masked off and soldered to.
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Here is the RST point (I opted for a single pad since I'm using 40awg magnet wire)
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Here's that RST point covered in yet more resin
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Masking off and tinning the DAT0 made things much simpler
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Here's CMD masked out and tinned
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and here's DAT0, CMD, and CLK all soldered in and resin'd
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here's the flex pre-tinned
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This was one of my first attempts at soldering the flex (possibly the very first) but ultimately I got it all cleaned up and functioning properly.

So I learned that doing a switch lite is slightly more difficult than doing a full-size switch, but with the right approach it doesn't have to be impossible or terrifying.

Also, fun side-note, be very careful when trying to remove the battery connector on the switch lite, because you have to disturb a jumper cable that runs the front LCD. If any of these traces are interrupted, you will have to trace which ones have lost continuity and bridge the appropriate pins with magnet wire (ask me how I know)

The short and sweet of it, is that my household now has two hacked switches (which is a 100% success rate on 100% of the consoles in the house) and I feel more confident in my micro-soldering skills :D
 

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It will make the job exponentially easier with the right equipment. Don't rush these kinds of mods, do them right and they will work the first time, and keep working for you.
Im already planning to buy some quality equipment soon, it's just that i got the resistors today and wanted to practice on the rp 2040 as i don't mind replacing it
 
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that's fine, thanks a lot for the advice!
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im afraid i'll have trouble putting the resistors back, i don't have a microscope and my tweezers suck. should i wait until i buy better equipment?

By my experience, if you don't have the right tools, it's usually a bad idea to continue. Get the proper tweezers, get a microscope (I use a cheap one that gets the job done, doesn't have to be anything fancy) and get your hands dirty. The only way to improve is to do it many many times.
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Well, I found it on my desk, check it. Again, I'm extra careful with these installations but the only different thing I did this time is only using a single mosfet, bit I've successfully done it in Te past. Hopefully now you see why I'm so confused
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And another thing worth mentioning is that I've already performed a reflow on my APU and no luck so far. I'm super frustrated since this is the first install in over a week that dies like this
Btw sorry for insisting, but I'm quite baffled by this dead switch. I killed 2 prior to this one and those were 100% a bad installation due to the RST point having a transistor next to it and I think I fried the transistor both times but that should've been avoided with the eMMC solder points.

It has worked multiple times in the past but this time it simply... died, no reason to point at and that scares me :s
 
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Looks like I didn't make any ASSes with my ASSumption of an ASSessment... THIS time ;P

I wasn't referring to you, I was just saying.

So I'm not trustworthy enough for u wooooow bro :-(

Looking back, I was really only referring to @rehius actually. Poorly phrased but doesn't reflect on you until YOU make it so.

Here maybe this will satisfy your ego:

FOR ANYONE READING HERE - I've been streaming my mods for just over a month now, I know this because it all started with an OLED that I'm still working on. In the meantime, I've completed many other installs though. Throughout that whole time, @Dee87 has been my wingman and made countless advisements. Now, looking back, 95% of what felt like nagging from him, turned out to be the way I prefer doing things anyway (I'm a stubborn a-hole who MUST do things my own way).

Take away:

If @Dee87 takes the time to advise you, take a more serious listen to him than you otherwise would, IMO.
 
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I wasn't referring to you, I was just saying.



Looking back, I was really only referring to @rehius actually. Poorly phrased but doesn't reflect on you until YOU make it so.

Here maybe this will satisfy your ego:

FOR ANYONE READING HERE - I've been streaming my mods for just over a month now, I know this because it all started with an OLED that I'm still working on. In the meantime, I've completed many other installs though. Throughout that whole time, @Dee87 has been my wingman and made countless advisements. Now, looking back, 95% of what felt like nagging from him, turned out to be the way I prefer doing things anyway (I'm a stubborn a-hole who MUST do things my own way).

Take away:

If @Dee87 takes the time to advise you, take a more serious listen to him than you otherwise would, IMO.


Hahahaha bro that must been so hard for u to say Xd

But I'm not always right (correct) , and people who dont like to "listen" or take advise from someone else need to learn the "hard" way like "u"

its just i tried alot of different thing and ways of installing them and had the best outcomes no issues when i do it the way i always tell everyone to do it :-)
 
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I would assume since he only mentions single mosfet installs, it means those single mosfets are run to both caps.

I've done 12 switches with picofly so far, all with single mosfet to single cap and they all work fine. 0.2mm wires at about 17mm length. One of them glitches a bit slower though (3-30 seconds), so I guess the SDA/SCL thingy could be useful there. But in general I'd say single mosfet to single cap is enough.
 

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@rehius Are you 100% sure that this capacitor can be used on cpu. Seems like my erista died. No reaction to power button
 

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By my experience, if you don't have the right tools, it's usually a bad idea to continue. Get the proper tweezers, get a microscope (I use a cheap one that gets the job done, doesn't have to be anything fancy) and get your hands dirty. The only way to improve is to do it many many times.
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Btw sorry for insisting, but I'm quite baffled by this dead switch. I killed 2 prior to this one and those were 100% a bad installation due to the RST point having a transistor next to it and I think I fried the transistor both times but that should've been avoided with the eMMC solder points.

It has worked multiple times in the past but this time it simply... died, no reason to point at and that scares me :s
What i am afraid when you got BSOD, its not the mosfet. Usually people extra careful in installing the mosfet, but neglected the D0/CMD/CLK. Those 3 goes directly to the APU. So don't neglect or wrongly put those little resistor 4R7. Maybe you use a different resistor?

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@rehius Are you 100% sure that this capacitor can be used on cpu. Seems like my erista died. No reaction to power button
I remember saving these on my note (from this thread, try to search it)

apu_cap_replace_from_rp2040_zero.jpeg
 
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I've done 12 switches with picofly so far, all with single mosfet to single cap and they all work fine. 0.2mm wires at about 17mm length. One of them glitches a bit slower though (3-30 seconds), so I guess the SDA/SCL thingy could be useful there. But in general I'd say single mosfet to single cap is enough.
As a matter of fact, my very first install on my own switch, I mangled the left capacitors pads, and only had the availability of using the right side capacitor with a single mosfet, and it glitches just fine (V1 patched).

I am merely repeating the suggestion of the firmware dev, Rehius, that doing such things can be a helpful redundancy, which can save time later, trying to troubleshoot.
 
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Is seen pictures using v1 cable on v2 switch but are there any pictures of using v2 cable on v1v i do believe the bigger connection is the feed and smaller is ground but want to confirm with a picture if someone has one would much appreciate
 

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Hahahaha bro that must been so hard for u to say Xd

But I'm not always right (correct) , and people who dont like to "listen" or take advise from someone else need to learn the "hard" way like "u"

its just i tried alot of different thing and ways of installing them and had the best outcomes no issues when i do it the way i always tell everyone to do it :-)

No, I try not to say something unless I fully believe it. Honesty is always easy for me to say. I left wiggle-room in my statement for you to be wrong ;)

It being "the hard way" is just your opinion, though. Just like you, I enjoy exploring ALL the ways something CAN be done so I KNOW how I can be most efficient later. I love all the small lessons I learned along the way, from you AND from my 'mistakes'.

You don't know, til you know, ya know?
 

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Is seen pictures using v1 cable on v2 switch but are there any pictures of using v2 cable on v1v i do believe the bigger connection is the feed and smaller is ground but want to confirm with a picture if someone has one would much appreciate
This should work
*Edit: updated the picture with correct number of capacitors. The installation remains the same.
 

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With this and pico and 47R can hack my nintendo oled. 3v Flex and adapter dat0. I have this stuff now!!!!
 

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With this and pico and 47R can hack my nintendo oled. 3v Flex and adapter dat0. I have this stuff now!!!!
You can but be aware that this dat0 adapter is not very good. Some people (including myself) have had problems with it.
It seems that the tiny exposed copper part that goes under the emmc is a bit too big and alot of times makes contact not just with dat0 line/solder ball but with another one close to it as well (so in a way it creates a short under emmc)
You can give it a try, maybe it works for you, but just to be safe for the future order the "4 anchor" model which everyone says it's ok.
 

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What i am afraid when you got BSOD, its not the mosfet. Usually people extra careful in installing the mosfet, but neglected the D0/CMD/CLK. Those 3 goes directly to the APU. So don't neglect or wrongly put those little resistor 4R7. Maybe you use a different resistor?

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I remember saving these on my note (from this thread, try to search it)

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It's funny that you mention that since the reason I killed the previous two V2 switches was because of my RST point since that was the only variable between V1 patched and V2 MARIKO since MARIKO has a transistor next to the point and I believe the heat killed it somehow.

I changed my installation layout to mostly use the eMMc points and I've seen incredible reliability using those, but this latest one just farted for no apparent reason.

I wished I had trouble installing it so that way I could just blame myself for a crappy installation but I made sure it was donde properly. Double/triple checked everything under the microscope during/after I was working but the BSOD was like a slap to the face :s

I just want to know how to avoid it as I'm having to replace every single board I kill and I'm running out of replacements :s
 
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hi, help switch lite instal picofly, start only hekate, emmc info - Failed to init, full stock loading only violet display
 

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