Lmao, I don't support Biden or Trump. but okay buddy, somebody was watching too much fox news.
I disagree with Defunding the Police.......but seriously - The Police, depending on the Area or Department, are Issued a Baton, a Stun-Gun/Taser, and a Service Weapon (Pistol and/or Shotgun). Yet what do they always go for????? Yes, their Service Weapon. No Non-Leathal Force used, always Deadly Force. So then why the hell are they Issued a Taser and Baton??????????No defense seen in this thread for Democrats wanting to defund the police in this thread. You're voting for that there's no way around it. You probably don't care but it would turn this country into a complete cesspool.
I disagree with Defunding the Police.......but seriously - The Police, depending on the Area or Department, are Issued a Baton, a Stun-Gun/Taser, and a Service Weapon (Pistol and/or Shotgun). Yet what do they always go for????? Yes, their Service Weapon. No Non-Leathal Force used, always Deadly Force. So then why the hell are they Issued a Taser and Baton??????????
Not to mention, Police do have Rubber Bullets or Bean Bag Rounds. Yet they never use that except for Crowd Control.No argument, there are some idiot cops and they should be punished to the full extent of the law if they use excessive force. It doesn't mean though that it's Trump fault or that all cops are racist or that we should defund the police. But yet this narrative definitely exists. It should make any rational American question the logic behind those that are trying to make this happen.
Did he abolish a line of thought or just say that federal funding can't be spent on it? Fairly toothless really (the next guy could undo it really) but the sentiment is appreciated.
As for the matter at hand. I have read about it in various guises over the years (it seems to be one of the originators of the "power + prejudice = racism" which you might have then heard phrased as "black people can't be racist". Complete and utter nonsense if you ask me. Can local or institutional power be aggravating factors in things? Absolutely but they are not the sole ones.
That is my usual video of choice as it mirrors my thoughts there.
As far as the US being a racist country. Not seeing it in decades at this point. It has a problem with poverty which in may disproportionately affect those of varying melanin levels (give or take oriental types) but that is a different matter. Or if you prefer if you got in a magic ship, found every KKK member and those that thought like one, executed them on the spot then a) the funeral industry would likely get a few thousand extra bodies but likely less than this virus lark has seen and b) would not have solved the issue.
On the political parties front then vis a vis slavery, jim crow and whatever else it has been so long that it is more or less pointless. Or if you prefer would those of the era recognise today's takes (even their own) as good? If so you don't really get to look that far back and line it up with today's efforts, and that works in both directions (the same thing that allows you to note that you were not alive to own any and thus carry no blame/guilt also cuts the other way). If you are interested in the history (getting right into the weeds at times, though never anything other than eye opening if you have only suffered the surface level teaching and sanitised nonsense) then I reckon Thomas Sowell does an absolutely fantastic line in it if you have a few hours spare (I can listen to him at double speed but have spent a while doing most things at such a speed, he is clear enough though).
I knew quite a bit of it already (moral philosophy of the time is something I have a passing interest in, or at least crops up in things I do but we will skip the photos of my book collection right now) but was still eye opening in so many ways. Did not feel like a long time listening to it at all. Can only imagine what it would be like if you had only turned up to history lessons in school and passed the exams. Would have liked to have heard more about China's takes on the matter, and the New Zealand stuff skimmed over is fascinating if you ever go looking at depth in it, but OK.
Look at the join date of this account (Sep 10, 2020), and look at their post history which out of 41 messages, only 1 is non-political.
I have no reason to believe this is a genuine person looking for conversation but rather a political tool of some sort looking to stir up controversy. I make no claims as to what entity this person would potentially be working for or whether or not I side with what has been said by anyone in this thread, but this is not the kind of user that belongs here.
Typical that we would get bots and trolls around election season.
Not to mention, Police do have Rubber Bullets or Bean Bag Rounds. Yet they never use that except for Crowd Control.
Off-Topic - Speaking of Bean Bag Rounds - I love how only Law Enforcement and Military can have Non Lethal Rounds like that. If you use those type of Rounds on someone Breaking and Entering your Home, they can actually take YOU to Court for Injuries and Damages???????? How is that right?????
Conservatives don't share negative views about Mexicans. Most Mexicans and/or Latinos are very hard working and have great family values. Their food is pretty damned good too. Conservatives share negative views on anyone that would illegally sneak into our country and then either commit more crimes or sit on their ass and collect benefits. I'm not sure why the Left have such a problem differentiating between honest hard working citizens and criminal scum.
You would allow others to dictate the terms and tempo of a debate with them?If they are going to bring up something from that was happening before 1865 A.D. I find it just fine for me to bring up something from that was enforced until 1965 A.D..
now one issue
why is it that they come here illegally in the first place?
before we answer it, we need to take a step and ask what would it mean to be in the states illegally.
See the issue is that assuming that the ones coming illegally are as the president has stated "rapists, looters, shooters"
wouldn't that immediately put them on the map? The opposite of what they want since, I'd imagine getting deported is not a goal, and eventually someone is going to pop the question if they are legally here while checking the background of the person if they were to be arrested.
So. I'd imagine they do the quite opposite, it defies logic. In other words, I highly doubt they come here with malicious intent.
Okay, so we now have that answer about what would it mean. Now we ask why again.
Now if we go to your conclusion that they are hogging free benefits. that wouldn't make sense either social security cards ids, and birth certificate are commonly used in conjunction with each other. So it's not exactly easy to fake a person. And even if they some how manage identify theft. They wouldn't be able to update said information as quickly on, you would be caught.
So okay, if it's not benefits then since obtaining them would be insanely hard without proper papers, what reason?
Well, let's take into consideration what is happening down there.
Gang violence and lots of it.
Okay that would be a good reason to come to the states, to flee that chaos. But again why illegally...
To this I'll finally answer it.
Because most conservative administrations have made it harder to come here as a legal citizen.
And it don't mean "okay we ramped the test"
I mean the path to citizenship is harder than it should be, and we already know that the amount of time it can take is farrrrr too long to other countries.
Okay then, then why not asylum...
Oh wait. right, President was making it harder to get Asylum
Then they just turn back to their nightmare right?
If you said no, I think you just understood their logic.
They don't come here illegally because they want to, they do it because out of a lack of choice. either suffer and or die by gangs. Or try to reach the states, by whatever means necessary.
You would allow others to dictate the terms and tempo of a debate with them?
In some States you'd get in less legal trouble if you actually just killed the intruder, but you're correct. In dumb Liberal run places you can actually get sued or arrested if someone breaks into your home when you aren't even home and then hurts themselves why they are stealing your property. It makes no sense, but the Left doesn't operate on logic half of the time so .....
And what if they did ask and got rejected? As I already stated, the president made it harder for no good reason.Though, by nature most people who enter our country illegally know damn well they are breaking the law and only request asylum as a last ditch effort if they get caught. If they wanted to claim asylum they can go to a border crossing and do so. Of course not all illegal aliens are rapists or whatever Trump said, but a lot of them are criminals and with no way to check what they're up to they are free to commit as many crimes as they can until they are caught. There's a legal way to enter the USA and that's how you should enter. Illegal immigration also isn't something I created this thread to discuss and I believe there's rules about staying on topic?
It all depends on their Lawyer, apparently. Question I would ask is - What "Right" did he have to Break In?????????Which states are these? (I assume by your phrase that "you can actually get sued if someone breaks into your home" that you mean they can be successful and win said lawsuit, because no matter what state you live in, you can sue over anything, whether or not you'll win is another question entirely).
And what if they did ask and got rejected? As I already stated, the president made it harder for no good reason.
Are you going to tell me that they should just walk away and go back?
Is that correct?
Problem with processes is that they can flawed, and or skewed to effect certain types of people. (as I already stated, systematic racism does exist)
For example of a process that is flawed (not racist, but just flawed), I'm currently in a situation where I am struggling to get a bank account. I need to prove that where I live, is well, where I live.
Would be simple other wise right?
Well, if you were to get a real id. in one state. but never open a bank account, until you move to another state, without being on a lease.
Even if you have all the proof needed such as a birth certificate and social security number and even that real id.
You can't open a bank account since you can't prove you live there.
So what are my means to get fix this?
Well, to get an id where I live, I need to use a lease or bank statement.
And to get a bank account, I need an... updated id...
The problem relies on the other problem, chicken egg issue. In most situations this wouldn't be a issue, and it's a good process to prevent fraud.
However, hopefully you just realized that processes can have unforeseen consequences.
However now imagine a man who's never met you, making the process to get into another country all the harder for no good reason, even if your asking for asylum and not citizenship.
People don't break laws because they want to.
People break laws because they aren't given a choice, or their hand has been forced.
Which states are these? (I assume by your phrase that "you can actually get sued if someone breaks into your home" that you mean they can be successful and win said lawsuit, because no matter what state you live in, you can sue over anything, whether or not you'll win is another question entirely).
Holy, mother of crap.Asylum was created to help out people in certain dire situations, not because they're poor and live in a crappy place. I'm sorry they are poor and don't have the opportunities we share, but they are other people from other countries. Their situation was caused by their leadership. I'm in the USA are I'm not responsible for what happens in other countries. That's globalist thinking. If simply living in a shitty place was grounds for asylum then we'd have half of Chicago's citizens qualify. The reason Trump tightened the requirements is because just like I outlined people were abusing it. The people sneaking into the USA never intended to claim asylum, it's only used as a way to deal with being caught. If they planned on doing it the right way they'd do it the right way.
I'm not sure nor am I even able to recall the names of liability laws that protect people who get hurt on your property. The laws basically guarantee you're responsible for them regardless of why they're on your property even if you're not home. I know you can try to sue someone for anything your heart desires, but these sorts of laws specifically allows you to be sued and because of the laws you'll usually lose. I'm sorry, but I haven't read up on the subject for many years so that's the best you'll get from me. If you're really interested feel free to ask around. I'm sure there are others that have heard about the subject.
white people
people of color