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Pyrmon said:
10: Muhammad does not ask money for himself. He asks the followers to spend money in the cause of God. Meaning Charity and such. Any money Muhammad received, he gave away. That is why he only possessed two coins when he died.

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He owned that big dark brown bit when he died. Hardly just two coins.
 

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cwstjdenobs said:
Pyrmon said:
10: Muhammad does not ask money for himself. He asks the followers to spend money in the cause of God. Meaning Charity and such. Any money Muhammad received, he gave away. That is why he only possessed two coins when he died.

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He owned that big dark brown bit when he died. Hardly just two coins.
He was a political leader, but he did not "own" the land. And sorry, he had seven coins when he died.
 

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Pyrmon said:
He was a political leader, but he did not "own" the land.

He was an emperor, no matter how you want to play with words, and that was his empire. He even passed the throne on to one of his family members, so not only an emperor but one who wanted to set up a dynasty too. Now that is in no way meant as an insult but saying he only had so many coins when he died because that's what he had on him at the time while ignoring the fact he ruled all of the Arabian peninsula at the time is daft.
 

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cwstjdenobs said:
Pyrmon said:
He was a political leader, but he did not "own" the land.

He was an emperor, no matter how you want to play with words, and that was his empire. He even passed the throne on to one of his family members, so not only an emperor but one who wanted to set up a dynasty too. Now that is in no way meant as an insult but saying he only had so many coins when he died because that's what he had on him at the time while ignoring the fact he ruled all of the Arabian peninsula at the time is daft.
Sure, but is that point really relevant? He was still quite poor financially.
 

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Pyrmon said:
Sure, but is that point really relevant? He was still quite poor financially.

What I'm saying is that in that position that image of humble living could be nothing more than an illusion, a veneer so to speak, no matter how much he might have wanted it otherwise.
 

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cwstjdenobs said:
Pyrmon said:
Sure, but is that point really relevant? He was still quite poor financially.

What I'm saying is that in that position that image of humble living could be nothing more than an illusion, a veneer so to speak, no matter how much he might have wanted it otherwise.
I'm not sure I understand. Could you re-phrase?
 

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I'll try. How about this, with money you can buy power but with enough power you don't need money. Vast amounts of money would not give him any more power or allow him to do anything more than he already could. Not only was he the highest royalty in the land, but as far as his followers where concerned the word of God came directly from him as well. He didn't give up either of those sets of powers he had over the people. So his lack of liquid money was at best him trying to be seen as living a humble life as an example, a neutral stance could be he just didn't need to carry money, or at worst it was just a bit of PR.
 

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