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He wants a wall to protect his citizens. We have too many illegal immigrants coming in to Texas/California/Etc and raping/killing/disturbing the peace/leeching the system. It's ingenious.

He's not cutting off deals with Mexico. He's just preventing crime, and preventing OUR companies from fleeing to Mexico for a tax cut. You'll be getting imports as usual from the USA, just this time, they'll be made in the USA too.

LOL. No. Going to war would be absolutely pointless and against his whole campaign agenda. The whole wall deal is protecting Americans, not wanting to send them into a war to die over.

Ok... I'll asnwer that to someone that clearly does not know it's own enviroment...

He is NOT preventing crime. Illegal inmigrants are not the same than crime, the proble is the ridiculous amount of illegal drugs the United States consumes, that huge markets atracks mafias from many countries (russian, cuban, puerto rican, dominican) and of course, mexican criminal organizations. Donald Trumo won the elections telling every american what they want to ear: "it is not your fault, keep consuming drugs, it's the fault of those inmigrants giving the drugs to you". I'm not saying we mexican are saints or whatever but we can clearly see you the US population are evading your responsabilities in this and you elected a xenophobic president to show us that. Make that wall, it will mean nothing, your crime rate will be the same because criminal group actually operating in you country will eventually find ways to operate again. What is the solution of this? LEGALIZE DRUGS or STOP CONSUMING ALL THAT BULLSHIT AT ALL.

About the economic face on this matter, you americans fail to realize we're the most dangerous country to NOT BE FRIENDS WITH, why? because we're literally next to you and every power block not including the United States want the United States watched closely so any other country will be glad to make bussiness with us (China for example).

To conclude, yes, my goverment is shit, but now, your goverment is shit also, you americans need to learn from your mistakes instead of pointing your fingers immediately to anything that is not you, terrorist? stop bombing the damn middle east, violence and crime in the streets? stop beign the biggest drug market in the world...
 

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If Trump wants to stop Mexicans from flooding over to the US then why doesn't he clamp down and seriously prosecute companies in America which actively employ illegal immigrants for their cheap labour? No jobs for these immigrants means no money, and less inclination for them to up sticks to America in the first place.
 
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If Trump wants to stop Mexicans from flooding over to the US then why doesn't he clamp down and seriously prosecute companies in America which actively employ illegal immigrants for their cheap labour? No jobs for these immigrants means no money, and less inclination for them to up sticks to America in the first place.

Because that would make too much sense, when it comes to politics, everything has to be too damn convoluted.
 

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If Trump wants to stop Mexicans from flooding over to the US then why doesn't he clamp down and seriously prosecute companies in America which actively employ illegal immigrants for their cheap labour? No jobs for these immigrants means no money, and less inclination for them to up sticks to America in the first place.
Because he wants the hard way (hell mode)
 
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If Trump wants to stop Mexicans from flooding over to the US then why doesn't he clamp down and seriously prosecute companies in America which actively employ illegal immigrants for their cheap labour? No jobs for these immigrants means no money, and less inclination for them to up sticks to America in the first place.

So, why not ANY president did that? and that's easy, because cheap hand work made the United States 1st level productive activity (harvesting, farming, basic production) to explode, thay had to pay less for the same work and that was the basis for the best middle class in the world. They know it, but the average US citizen not.
 

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Some people seem to forget that Mexicans are not the only ones who can be illegal immigrants.
yeah right? I still think we from Americas should apologise to the natives and return their land, than back to or country we where immigrated from ...
but I'm sure they aren't going to allow us there LOL
 

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If Trump wants to stop Mexicans from flooding over to the US then why doesn't he clamp down and seriously prosecute companies in America which actively employ illegal immigrants for their cheap labour? No jobs for these immigrants means no money, and less inclination for them to up sticks to America in the first place.
Because that would make too much sense, when it comes to politics, everything has to be too damn convoluted.

Isn't that what's going to happen once he defunds sanctuary cities, though? No more tax breaks for those employing or harboring illegals. He is going after them, one step at a time.
 

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Isn't that what's going to happen once he defunds sanctuary cities, though? No more tax breaks for those employing or harboring illegals. He is going after them, one step at a time.

Those sanctuary cities, ugh, good, that should curtail something. Is it so hard for people to come legally?
 

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Those sanctuary cities, ugh, good, that should curtail something. Is it so hard for people to come legally?
idk from mexico but from other countries (Like Brazil here) there was a number of people that can be accepted and need to pass some stuff, even passing they can be rejected because that limit, a friend here was like this :/
there are stuff like going to study, to work, both or travel, a lot to take in consideration õ_o
 

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I dunno.
The Mexican Government is pretty dumb. While I don't really see Mexico paying for the wall entirely, I can see them paying for some of it.
When will they finally give in? Who knows, only time will tell.
 
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idk from mexico but from other countries (Like Brazil here) there was a number of people that can be accepted and need to pass some stuff, even passing they can be rejected because that limit, a friend here was like this :/
there are stuff like going to study, to work, both or travel, a lot to take in consideration õ_o

But that's just it, people come here, not doing it legally because it's too much effort to want to get all documentation. I don't care that immigrants come, only when they come illegally is it annoying.

Heaven forbid they have to work harder to come legally.
 

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I don't see why this is a big deal. It's the president's job to enforce the law, and he's going to enforce it. (Unlike Obama, explicitly saying he won't enforce the law, but that's a topic for another day.)

The government has the authority to put a teriff on trades with Mexico that can pay for the wall. If that's passed, the only way for Mexico to not pay for the wall would be for all Mexicans to stop trading with the US entirely.
 
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I dunno.
The Mexican Government is pretty dumb. While I don't really see Mexico paying for the wall entirely, I can see them paying for some of it.
When will they finally give in? Who knows, only time will tell.
Peña nieto cancelled a meeting with Trump, also he talked some time ago about the wall.
So... let's wait, time will decide. :/
 

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I don't see why this is a big deal. It's the president's job to enforce the law, and he's going to enforce it. (Unlike Obama, explicitly saying he won't enforce the law, but that's a topic for another day.)

The government has the authority to put a teriff on trades with Mexico that can pay for the wall. If that's passed, the only way for Mexico to not pay for the wall would be for all Mexicans to stop trading with the US entirely.

The thing that irks me is that so many people are butthurt about being stricter on illegal immigration. What the heck is so wrong with upholding the law?
 

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The thing that irks me is that so many people are butthurt about being stricter on illegal immigration. What the heck is so wrong with upholding the law?
Liberals get butthurt over everything.
 

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