Three Wuhan lab researchers were hospitalized in November 2019

[Seliph]

as Sutton it is pretty well established that Trotsky was funded by Wall St.

Trotsky? Funded by Wall Street? I can't think of any reason why that would ever happen, especially since he was exiled from the Union and didn't have much real influence in Mexico where he lived after exile.

I can't find anyone but Sutton making this claim and it seems like a really weird claim to make.

 

[weatMod]

Trotsky? Funded by Wall Street? I can't think of any reason why that would ever happen, especially since he was exiled from the Union and didn't have much real influence in Mexico where he lived after exile.

I can't find anyone but Sutton making this claim and it seems like a really weird claim to make.

yeah it is really hard to find sources now, well consider who founded owns and controls Google

" if it were ever allowed to truly take root in the US would dissolve Wall Street where it stands. They make odd claims without backing that most historians tend not to support. I'd prefer real academics to shaky conspiracy theorists."

communism not socialism ,and no not really, capitalists are globalists as are communists
they have no loyalty to the US

Ask yourself this, why did Henry Kissinger open up China to trade under Nixon when the US was fighting war in Vietnam to'
allegedly "stop communism from spreading in South East Asia?

You really think it is such a stretch to believe such things when just about every Wall St. owned multinational manufactures nearly everything in China ,which last I checked was Communist , and look at China itself did it really affect capitalist businesses LOL no not even close , they have shopping districts that put Rodeo Dr. to fucking shame ,Wall St. and their multinationals do more business in China than they do there, they sell more Nikes and Starbucks and Buicks in China than they do here , so the idea that a full blown communist revolution would hurt bankers or Wall St, has already been disproven.

the idea that even full blown communism would "dissolve Wall St, where it stands" is utterly ridiculous

And they are using this COVID lab narrative ( yes it was a biowepon made in a lab ) blaming it all on China as more propaganda to gin up another cold war with China and to give and excuse for TPTB to move the manufacturing to even cheaper markets, namely India and Veitnam , it's just going to be used as an excuse to implement the TPP

 

[Deleted member 559230]

@SG854 I do want to mention I am not a boy, unless you were referring to @Lacius
That being said,

Yes, you need to back up your claims and you are not a source. You are some random user with an inflated ego.

For the suggestion to search for" Wuhan coronavirus" the majority of the articles listed are opinion pieces with very few back sources backing them. Just because Google turns up conspiracy, doesn't mean there's any weight to it.

Oh~ a timeline, yeah that's something but still not really any kind of source to back up your claims. I am starting to think you just hoped no one would press you on your nonsense. If this has proved anything, it's that you don't actually have any real sources and you are just hoping people believe you when you are spreading conspiracy trash. It takes an incredible level of arrogance to believe that your claims can't be debated and to believe they are facts.

That's not how that works. If you tried that shit in an actual academic, you would be laughed out there.

Actually, I did forget that the Left doesn't even know the basics when it comes to the virus and its origins. I was expecting you to have paid attention starting back in November 2019 when the entire right and left establishment were covering what at the time was being referred to as the "Wuhan Virus". I forgot that when Trump first started combating the virus all the Left could do is call him racist and the sources for the things in the timeline weren't being covered by the main stream media. Sorry, I mistook you for someone that was informed already of the very basic nature and circumstances surrounding COVID-19. You all really do yourselves a disservice by only consuming the fabricated crap the left publishes.

Last, but not least the timeline I provided is from the US Government, specifically the Department of Defense (DOD). If you have any issues with their list feel free to contact them as I wasn't involved in it's creation, but it does have at rather long time line that includes the Federal Governments response starting back in December 2019. Trump of course is responsible for not only the Federal Response, but also direct actions he took via executive privilege. If you're going to ignore the list that's your own problem because everything you first questioned me on can be found in it and by searching for "COVID-19 timeline" and reading other responses to get a better feel of the entire picture. The picture you're clearly lacking understanding of.

 

[Seliph]

yeah it is really hard to find sources now, well consider who founded owns and controls Google

" if it were ever allowed to truly take root in the US would dissolve Wall Street where it stands. They make odd claims without backing that most historians tend not to support. I'd prefer real academics to shaky conspiracy theorists."

communism not socialism ,and no not really, capitalists are globalists
they have no loyalty to the US

Ask yourself this, why did Henry Kissinger open up China to trade under Nixon when the US was fighting war in Vietnam to'
allegedly "stop communism from spreading in South East Asia?

You really think it is such a stretch to believe such things when just about every Wall St. owned multinational manufactures nearly everything in China ,which last I checked was Communist , and look at China itself did it really affect capitalist businesses LOL no not even close , they have shopping districts that put Rodeo Dr. to fucking shame

so the idea that even full blown communism would "dissolve Wall St, where it stands" is utterly ridiculous

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Scientist always cite their sources. Are you saying that what they do is redundant? They are very smart and know more then you. So they must know what they are doing better then you.

Actually, no they don't. The Liberal left was fighting tooth and nail to not require scientists to turn over their data when creating policy for the United States of America. They cited that the data contained sensitive medical data. So instead of removing private medical data covered in HIPPA from their research they said it would be too complicated so there could be no possible way to hand over the data being used in their research. Utter horse shit if you ask me. Here's the thing though. I'm not a scientist and I don't believe most of what I read online. If you people are too dumb to work a search engine that's not my fault and if you only consume main stream media that's also not my fault.

 

[Seliph]

If you bonked on @JonhathonBaxster's head it'd probably sound like a hollow coconut

 

[proflayton123]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7428442/ found in sewers before officially announce is kinda sus, though what I hate more than anything is when people say 'made in a lab' nono, not so much made, perhaps modified/enhance

 

[MaxToTheMax]

If you bonked on @JonhathonBaxster's head it'd probably sound like a hollow coconut

lol.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

If you bonked on @JonhathonBaxster's head it'd probably sound like a hollow coconut

Choosing to ignore the source when I link to it because it collaborates what I've been saying it pretty hollow headed. The Department of Defense IS THE GOD DAMNED SOURCE. It just so happens everything I claimed Trump did to combat the virus is fucking 100% true. You can talk shit all you want, but you don't get to change what happened. You want to stay ignorant? Fine, I'll help you by putting you and Lillith on ignore so I won't happen to send some high IQ vibes your way because apparently you and her can't handle the truth.

 

[Seliph]

Choosing to ignore the source when I link to it because it collaborates what I've been saying it pretty hollow headed. The Department of Defense IS THE GOD DAMNED SOURCE. It just so happens everything I claimed Trump did to combat the virus is fucking 100% true. You can talk shit all you want, but you don't get to change what happened. You want to stay ignorant? Fine, I'll help you by putting you and Lillith on ignore so I won't happen to send some high IQ vibes you way because apparently you and her can't handle the truth.

bonkbonkbonkbonkbonk

Also iq is pseudoscience and not real

 

[Deleted User]

... Is this the point where we exchange IQ Test scores and Mensa Applications, because I would not mind flexing.

Jokes aside, it's hard to keep a straight face reading the progress of this Topic.
That said, name-calling on Intellect are just petty and not so fun to follow; it's quite easy to gauge by their logic in Comments.

 

[Seliph]

That said, name-calling on Intellect are just petty and not so fun to follow; it's quite easy to gauge by their logic in Comments.

This may be true but
1. No matter how many holes you poke in their logic they just pivot to some other point so reasoning with them is basically futile
2. It's funny

 

[SG854]

Actually, no they don't. The Liberal left was fighting tooth and nail to not require scientists to turn over their data when creating policy for the United States of America. They cited that the data contained sensitive medical data. So instead of removing private medical data covered in HIPPA from their research they said it would be too complicated so there could be no possible way to hand over the data being used in their research. Utter horse shit if you ask me. Here's the thing though. I'm not a scientist and I don't believe most of what I read online. If you people are too dumb to work a search engine that's not my fault and if you only consume main stream media that's also not my fault.

WTF are you talking about. Every single scientific paper I read has sources.

bonkbonkbonkbonkbonk

Also iq is pseudoscience and not real

Not true IQ is not pseudoscience. Intelligence tests more accurately measure Intellegence then any other psychological dimension. IQ research has more accurate results then let's say personality tests or trans research.

And the entire psychological field is based on what IQ research has established. Earlier IQ research established statistical techniques that all of psychological research today uses to test all of their hypothesis. All of Psychology uses the same methodology of testing IQ tests uses.


If you think IQ research is bullshit might as well throw away all of psychology as bullshit since they use the same testing methodology. If you think IQ data is bullshit then all of psychology data is bullshit too. Since IQ research is more accurate then any other psychological research. If IQ was pseudoscience then that must mean trans research is pseudoscience too.


These two statements can also be true at the same time. Intelligence tests do not perfectly measure intelligence. Intelligence tests more accurately measure Intellegence then any other psychological dimension. So let's say IQ can correlate to a 0.7. And personality tests correlates to a 0.5. With 1.0 being perfect correlation. In this example IQ is more accurately correlated then personality. But isn't a perfect correlation. Nothing in psychology has perfect correlation.

 

[Deleted User]

Not true IQ is not pseudoscience. Intelligence tests more accurately measure Intellegence then any other psychological dimension. IQ research has more accurate results then let's say personality tests or trans research.

And the entire psychological field is based on what IQ research has established. Earlier IQ research established statistical techniques that all of psychological research today uses to test all of their hypothesis. All of Psychology uses the same methodology of testing IQ tests uses.

there's a lot of holes with IQ tests.

this could probably help out

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and this... basically, the issue with IQ is that it can't really measure everything or factor everything correctly. And then you have the fact the name Intelligence Quotient is not really accurate. The person who originally created the test argued against it.

sorry for the multiple videos, but answering through multiple points

 

[Deleted User]

so reasoning with them is basically futile

I've found that sometimes the futility itself is worth a Like.

 

[SG854]

there's a lot of holes with IQ tests.

this could probably help out

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and this... basically, the issue with IQ is that it can't really measure everything or factor everything correctly. And then you have the fact the name Intelligence Quotient is not really accurate. The person who originally created the test argued against it.

sorry for the multiple videos, but answering through multiple points

Like I said IQ tests does not have perfect correlation, like with anything else in psychology. Nothing in psychology has perfect corellation. And you don't need perfect correlation to properly research it.


And like I said all of psychology research is based on testing methodology set standardized by IQ tests. If IQ test is bullshit then all of psychology is bullshit. Trans research is bullshit.


It also mentions racial. None of the IQ test I read says that Black people have inferior IQ. Most research I read says that Black people have similar IQ to White people when controlling for factors like schooling and access to resources.



You also say that IQ tests is not accurate because it does not measure everything or factor everything correctly. Which is exactly what I said. I said that IQ tests do not have perfect correlation. And I also said everything else in psychology does not have perfect correlation either. Emotional Intellegence (EI) tests as talked about in the 3 videos you linked does not have perfect correlation. Does that mean EI is bullshit? IQ usually has much higher correlation then anything else in psychology. So that must make EI even more bullshit then IQ.


This research paper also says the early EI testing was hard to establish compared to IQ tests because it was based on subjective answers, whereas IQ testing was based on objectively right and wrong answers. And it talks about how they tried to improve EI testing over the years.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6546921/

 

[Deleted User]

It also mentions racial. None of the IQ test I read says that Black people have inferior IQ. Most research I read says that Black people have similar IQ to White people when controlling for factors like schooling and access to resources.

If you watched the videos I sent (I know three 5 minute ish videos is a lot.) There is a point where this is kinda a problem. In the video they bring up specifically girls given tasks that were taboo for them that were on the IQ test, during the time when women were treated inferior. And they scored lower than their male constituents. That didn't mean they were stupid however the environment essentially unfavorably targeted them even more when IQ tests became a thing. And created a situation where it would appear that way, but probably was severely inaccurate.
How this ties to race is schooling.
So if you don't know how school funding works, it takes the general taxable income around the nearby neighborhood. Given that black families due to having already so much working against them, such as employers not hiring them due to subconscious racial bias, or conscious and just a lot of other factors that I'm probably not the best person to list all of it. Due to the fact they are much more closer to the poverty line, or below it. This means those schools that their kids likely go to, are even more underfunded, and provide even less quality education.

 

[SG854]

If you watched the videos I sent (I know three 5 minute ish videos is a lot.) There is a point where this is kinda a problem. In the video they bring up specifically girls given tasks that were taboo for them that were on the IQ test, during the time when women were treated inferior. And they scored lower than their male constituents. That didn't mean they were stupid however the environment essentially unfavorably targeted them even more when IQ tests became a thing. And created a situation where it would appear that way, but probably was severely inaccurate.
How this ties to race is schooling.
So if you don't know how school funding works, it takes the general taxable income around the nearby neighborhood. Given that black families due to having already so much working against them, such as employers not hiring them due to subconscious racial bias, or conscious and just a lot of other factors that I'm probably not the best person to list all of it. Due to the fact they are much more closer to the poverty line, or below it. This means those schools that their kids likely go to, are even more underfunded, and provide even less quality education.

The videos mention EI as another factor in a person's success, they use the EI argument to weaken IQ's argument of predictive powers in a person's success. Apply your argument to EI tests. Environmental factors can affect EI. Proper education and proper socializing with people can affect EI. So since these things can change a persons EI does that mean we should ignore EI as bullshit? Just because an environment can affect a person's IQ does that mean we should ignore IQ as bullshit? None are a perfect correlation. And one of the videos do not completly dismiss IQ testing either.


Yes I'm aware how school funding works in Black neighborhoods. Which was implied when I said when controlling for factors like schooling and access to resources.

 

[The Catboy]

Choosing to ignore the source when I link to it because it collaborates what I've been saying it pretty hollow headed. The Department of Defense IS THE GOD DAMNED SOURCE. It just so happens everything I claimed Trump did to combat the virus is fucking 100% true. You can talk shit all you want, but you don't get to change what happened. You want to stay ignorant? Fine, I'll help you by putting you and Lillith on ignore so I won't happen to send some high IQ vibes your way because apparently you and her can't handle the truth.

You are an egotistical dude who started out saying you didn’t need sources and then got the big mad when I didn’t respect the single source that even related to the comment I requested a source on. The only thing you’ve proven is just how up your own ass you are.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

If you bonked on @JonhathonBaxster's head it'd probably sound like a hollow coconut

And if I bonked on your head my hand would get sucked in from the black hole that occupies it inside. See? We can all name call here!