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Well sir, I do believe gun control is a partisan issue, and I assumed Obama would maintain the stance he ran on, from factcheck.org:

Obama, "Urban Policy": Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

He hasn't closed any loopholes. The NRA doesn't want terrorist watchlists preventing gun sales, what does Obama do ? People are shot, some to death at a town hall event in Arizona including a girl born on 9-11-01, what does Obama say about outlawing huge ammo clips ? ? Jack shit.

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html
 

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twiztidsinz said:
Thesolcity said:
twiztidsinz said:
Thesolcity said:
And it wasn't made known to me his "birth certificate" was out. I'll look into it, thanks for the links...PLEASE, OH PLEASE, OH PLEASE! tell me you're joking and you're seriously not that oblivious.


No, I've looked into it before. You know what I got? Pages and pages of BULLSHIT and black-power related sites. No respectable news source has commented on it and there's been no news story on it except some possible bullshit document from 7 HOURS AGO.
Three years ago, when it was ... ya know, RELEVENT TONS of places reported on the fact that there was a real document in Hawaii proving Obama was a citizen, there were scans of his certificate posted and tons of other evidence... which was all ignored by one group: the birthers.
The fact that you didn't know about it most likely means one of two things. Either you were oblivious to the news or you were ignoring it.



QUOTE(yuyuyup @ Apr 10 2011, 02:20 AM)
Obama is a republican dog. To the birthers out there, please continue to make the G.O.P. look retarded (47% of Republicans don't believe Obama was born in the USA) To those saying obama is a socialist, JESUS you are way off. Obama caves time and time again to wall street, the insurance industry, banks, the gun lobby (Obama signs bill allowing loaded guns into national parks) etc etc.
You, along with brain-dead republicans, made the ASSUMPTION that Obama was anti-gun.
There were tons of people saying "Buy guns now 'cuz Obama's gonna take 'em away!!", despite the fact that he never said ANYTHING related to that at all.

As for the 'caving time and time again', rock and a hard place.
If he stand up to them, he's called socialist and fascist and anti-American.
If he gives in to them, then he's weak and spineless and corporatist.
FLAG PIN! FLAG PIN!!!

Frankly, I don't give a shit. I only know in that area what little I've actually researched into it. I have had other things that have occupied my time but I take responsibility for full-fledged ignorance of the situation of Obama's birth certificate. So would you please enlighten me on this situation, and I'm sorry for spouting my ignorance earlier. :ashamed:
 

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Thesolcity said:
I want a president that doesn't classify me as a terrorist, bigot, and racist when I ask for his birth certificate.

Fuck that stupid idea of judging a president by his good and/or bad deeds and policies... Lets argue over the validity of his birth certificate. That will fix the mess this country is in for sure.

Are you a closet Obama fan? Can you come up w/ nothing else bad about this guy, but you want to fit in w/ your friends and family that hate him? I'm not a democrat or an Obama fan boy and I still think your statement is jousting at windmills.

Sorry, but you are clearly blind to anything that disagrees w/ what you've been spoon fed and swallowed.
 

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KidIce said:
Thesolcity said:
I want a president that doesn't classify me as a terrorist, bigot, and racist when I ask for his birth certificate.

Fuck that stupid idea of judging a president by his good and/or bad deeds and policies... Lets argue over the validity of his birth certificate. That will fix the mess this country is in for sure.

Are you a closet Obama fan? Can you come up w/ nothing else bad about this guy, but you want to fit in w/ your friends and family that hate him? I'm not a democrat or an Obama fan boy and I still think your statement is jousting at windmills.

Sorry, but you are clearly blind to anything that disagrees w/ what you've been spoon fed and swallowed.

Did you not look at the post above you?
 

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Thesolcity said:
Frankly, I don't give a shit. I only know in that area what little I've actually researched into it. I have had other things that have occupied my time but I take responsibility for full-fledged ignorance of the situation of Obama's birth certificate. So would you please enlighten me on this situation, and I'm sorry for spouting my ignorance earlier. :ashamed:
http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/B...Certificate.jpg
Two things to note (read: dispel conspiracy theories):
1). The JUN - 6 2007 is when that copy was printed. That is the same copy which was used for his Presidential bid. The reason it is backwards is because it was stamped on the back of the document and bled through a little bit and possibly made more visible by the scanner.
2). The blacked out area was hidden because in their (the President's campaign) rush to get the information out they were unsure if it was an important number. Since the number turned out to be non-identifying, it has been released and the number itself is "151 1961 010641".

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Has some large size images, along with them being held by a real live person.
 

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