Using Luma3DS + Gateway on B9S

Arnold101 · Aug 1, 2018

no, i have followed this guide and not have emunand, why?

Maximilious · Aug 1, 2018

Arnold101 said:
no, i have followed this guide and not have emunand, why?

You need to create one from the B9S menu at boot.

mikefor20 · Aug 2, 2018

Maximilious said:
You need to create one from the B9S menu at boot.

Use Godmode9. It will format your mSD though so..

Copy your SD to PC
Put in 3ds
Hold START during boot (This might be a different button IF you named it differently. Payloads are labeled button_name of file.bin so renaming it changes the trigger should be START_GM9.bin)
Go to the options menu(Start? I think..) and look for The create EmuNAND option.
Run Create EmuNAND. Formats the card and makes a partition with the EmuNAND..
Put in PC and copy back files from step 1.

Lots of guides out there. Googling can prevent us having redundant threads. Plus you can find the information quickly.

Temptress Cerise · Aug 2, 2018

Arnold101 said:
no, i have followed this guide and not have emunand, why?

Follow what mikefor20 posted. Be sure to select GW EmuNAND style option when prompted for type. Do not use RedNAND, if you do, you'll have to redo it.
Then google search the following: GATEWAY EMUNAND 11.7.0-40E/U/J 123AB
It should be the first link you get, follow that guide.

Boot into GW EmuNAND via Luma3DS. Hold L at boot time, if your Luma3DS settings are not set to automatically boot EmuNAND. Don't know? Hold Select at boot time and read what you enabled.

Arnold101 · Aug 2, 2018

is the ONLY way? i not want an emunand.... at boot i push the button and it load a payload trough luma and it load into gateway, i want to stay in this mode if possible.

also how i check if i have emunand or not? (i'm sure not have it but i want to check)

also that guide found on google is in german

I want this mode, is the one i have used last time: "
Quantumcat said: ↑
Oh ok, you'll have to wait for someone to post the firmware cias to install on your emuNAND. You can't do a full upgrade if you want to keep Gateway functionality"

Temptress Cerise · Aug 2, 2018

Arnold101 said:
is the ONLY way? i not want an emunand.... at boot i push the button and it load a payload trough luma and it load into gateway, i want to stay in this mode if possible.

also how i check if i have emunand or not? (i'm sure not have it but i want to check)

also that guide found on google is in german

I want this mode, is the one i have used last time: "
Quantumcat said: ↑
Oh ok, you'll have to wait for someone to post the firmware cias to install on your emuNAND. You can't do a full upgrade if you want to keep Gateway functionality"

If you click the English or Japanese "packs" of that guide you found. You would see that there is also English instructions.

You need an EmuNAND to use a GW. (You will get a nag if you don't, and on 11.3+ SysNANDs, GW Mode will wipe B9S)

Checking if you have an EmuNAND is simple. Did you create one as instructed? Don't remember? Then hold L while booting Luma3DS, if your Luma3DS settings are set to not automatically boot EmuNAND. Then open System Settings and you should see EMU in front of the system firmware version number. If you see SYS, you booted into SysNAND, this will happen if you have boot to emunand enabled in Luma3DS and held the L button, or you don't have one at all. Don't see SYS or EMU, then enable Show NAND or user string in System Settings in your Luma3DS settings.

From GodMode9, if you boot into it, you'll also see EMUNAND CTRNAND, TWLN, TWLP ... etc, as options as well.

If you still can't figure this out, then there's not much else I can do to help you.

EDIT: And before you ask, if you even read this far, once you follow that guide I told you to google, to get to 11.8, boot in GW Mode, System Settings -> Update. Yes. It will work, even the guide creator of that confirmed it.

Arnold101 · Aug 2, 2018

thanks miss, but i want to use sysnand with this method i used last time : "Oh ok, you'll have to wait for someone to post the firmware cias to install on your emuNAND. You can't do a full upgrade if you want to keep Gateway functionality"

i have sysnand 11.4 and working gateway

Temptress Cerise · Aug 2, 2018

Arnold101 said:
thanks miss, but i want to use sysnand with this method i used last time : "Oh ok, you'll have to wait for someone to post the firmware cias to install on your emuNAND. You can't do a full upgrade if you want to keep Gateway functionality"

i have sysnand 11.4 and working gateway

I will not write or give any instruction on SysNAND-only setups. Figure it out on your own based on the information provided. If you brick your NAND or lose B9S, you better have a way to get B9S indtalled again and a way to restore your NAND.

I am also not sure why you keep quoting Quantumcat when she clearly states EmuNAND method. I don’t know in what world EmuNAND = SysNAND, but they are not the same.

Maximilious · Aug 2, 2018

Arnold101 said:
i have sysnand 11.4 and working gateway

Files have been posted to allow frankenfirmware on GW emuNAND up to version 11.6 over on maxconsole. 11.8 is the latest now and no new frankenfirmware exists, meaning updating for "stability" sake is not needed and online will not work. Frankly, 11.2 is the last supported firmware from GW and just like the OP of this post states - DO NOT USE/UPDATE SYSNAND GATEWAY OR YOU RISK LOSING B9S.

Arnold101 · Aug 2, 2018

i not used files from franken firmwre..i downloaded files from nus tool, and works perfectly

mikefor20 · Aug 4, 2018

Arnold101 said:
i not used files from franken firmwre..i downloaded files from nus tool, and works perfectly

Somethings wrong here. you keep saying things but I don't think you know what you mean.

Well you are not running 11.4+ OFW on SysNAND in GW mode. If you have no prompt at boot then you are not in SysNAND. Unless you found one of the even more dangerous and out of date GW loader files. BEWARE

11.4 won't boot in GW mode. Unless you left a few select files at 11.2. Is that what you did? (There is a tutorial) That IS Franken-Firmware. It's not from one of those packs, its from NUSD, but its Franken-firm none the less. That is how they made those packs in the first place.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-get-11-4-emunand-working-on-gateway-with-online-access.472624/

11.8 leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The new detection method will surely cause some trouble. I haven't heard of anyone making a Franken Firm 11.8 and getting online in GW mode. If you do, post proof and a tut and the GW community will thank you.

Unless you go to 11.8. online is off the table for now.. And I am not sure the implications of GW in 11.8 even in EmuNAND mode. New detection system. Lot's of talks of potential bans from CIA/freeshop installed files. GW should be big ban hammer too. So this is really just to fix a few games. Skip updating the EmuNAND. Run the 11.2+ games in Luma. Online too if you don't care about a ban and want to unban your console every so often.

Booting in to GW in 11.4 SysNAND removes B9S. NO nag and b9s doesn't disappear? You must have EmuNAND. So what's your real setup? Try booting Luma in to EmuNAND and see if it boots in to you GW EmuNAND..

Don't update in GW mode. Even when GW was being updated, this was the rule.

EmuNAND is the only safe-ish way to use GW. Plus you can boot in to the EmuNAND with Luma, essentially giving you a sandbox mode to tinker in. Win Win. I personally would leave the EmuNAND at 11.2 OFW. Then update SysNAND in Luma. Use GW in offline mode. Install all the online games and the few games that actually need 11.2+ in SysNAND. Fill the GW up with anything that doesn't need 11.2 or online. GW has it's place but using it as your primary method is stupid. It really is. Use it for Extra storage of non priority games. Luma is better anyway and takes a few minutes to set up.

Try the AIO pack from InScripted (love that thing) to really toy with that EmuNAND. Doesn't salty use EmuNAND too? EmuNAND is the only real way to go in GW these days. Don't be lazy. Do it right.

Arnold101 · Aug 10, 2018

btw...this tutorial was for sysnand users too, soo i'll wait that will be available to latest firmware. "Requirements: SysNAND on 11.2 or lower!"

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Temptress Cerise said:
I will not write or give any instruction on SysNAND-only setups. Figure it out on your own based on the information provided. If you brick your NAND or lose B9S, you better have a way to get B9S indtalled again and a way to restore your NAND.

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whut? this tutorial was for sysnand users too...so why NOW you sai i will not give instruction to sysnand users?? "Requirements: SysNAND on 11.2 or lower!"

Maximilious · Aug 10, 2018

Arnold101 said:
btw...this tutorial was for sysnand users too, soo i'll wait that will be available to latest firmware. "Requirements: SysNAND on 11.2 or lower!"

You will be waiting a long time. GW is no longer supported, not even by the manufacturer. Best to set up Luma sysNAND with GW emuNAND as EVERYONE with a GW who wants the latest OFW version has already done. And you're not quoting the OP of this post, just a participater. I'm not sure if the OP is even actively participating in this thread any longer.

The Catboy · Aug 10, 2018

Arnold101 said:
btw...this tutorial was for sysnand users too, soo i'll wait that will be available to latest firmware.

Gateway isn't going to update their cart to support anything past 11.2. They stopped supporting this cart in favor of making (and not supporting) the Stargate 3DS cart.
So you are basically stuck with 11.2 and or a Frankenfirm if you want to continue using your Gateway cart.

Arnold101 · Aug 10, 2018

hello????? go off the bed!. I KNOW WELL THAT GATEWAY IS NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE!.

OF COURSE i mean waiting for a user fix, as always.

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btw, how many GB take an emunand? 2 ore more on new 3ds?

deSSy2724 · Aug 22, 2018

I have been on Gateway since yesterday (11.2 full firmware was installed on emunand and spoofed to 11.8 which means only cver, nver, friends module and eshop from 11.8 ) and everything worked fine but now I switched to B9S and injected my GW emunand to Luma3DS sysnand, so I lost gateway.

Now my question is, is there any method to use the same nand (not separate nands) for both luma3ds and gateway (as I wish)?

I mean, Luma3DS/B9S is fine but it sucks that I have lost the ability to load .3ds rom from the GW menu in home menu and the GW cheat method (offline only).

Maximilious · Aug 22, 2018

deSSy2724 said:
Now my question is, is there any method to use the same nand (not separate nands) for both luma3ds and gateway (as I wish)?

It's possible, but you risk losing B9S by doing so (bold red letter warning in OP's guide). To mitigate that risk, it's recommended using Luma for your sysNAND, and leaving your GW emuNAND separate and launch it via the B9S shortcut launcher (down+L or whatever you would have configured). It really is not that much of a bother as most people think.

If you still have B9S installed, you can create a GW emuNAND partition from the GodMode menu. Since you injected your GW emuNAND to sysNAND that should be fine - This method will make your current sysNAND an emuNAND copy, so you will have to wipe your Luma sysNAND again to split them to continue to use your GW, or risk losing B9S as the OP states in bold red letters.

deSSy2724 · Aug 22, 2018

Maximilious said:
It's possible, but you risk losing B9S by doing so (bold red letter warning in OP's guide). To mitigate that risk, it's recommended using Luma for your sysNAND, and leaving your GW emuNAND separate and launch it via the B9S shortcut launcher (down+L or whatever you would have configured). It really is not that much of a bother as most people think.

If you still have B9S installed, you can create a GW emuNAND partition from the GodMode menu. Since you injected your GW emuNAND to sysNAND that should be fine - This method will make your current sysNAND an emuNAND copy, so you will have to wipe your Luma sysNAND again to split them to continue to use your GW, or risk losing B9S as the OP states in bold red letters.

I have asked the question because as far a I know GW can launch only franken firmwares (11.3 - 11.8), not full 11.3 - 11.8 firmwares.... this confuses me.

BTW previously my sysnand was on 9.0 (OFW) and my GW emunand on 11.2 (spoofed to 11.8) but now I have only sysnand on 11.8 (luma3ds). And I have a hardmod installed and multiple nand dumps of my 9.0 sysnand (3 years old backups as well as from months/days ago) and backups of my emunand, so, basically I cant brick my N3DS even if I screw something up with 11.8, right?

Maximilious · Aug 22, 2018

deSSy2724 said:
I have asked the question because as far a I know GW can launch only franken firmwares (11.3 - 11.8), not full 11.3 - 11.8 firmwares.... this confuses me.

BTW previously my sysnand was on 9.0 (OFW) and my GW emunand on 11.2 (spoofed to 11.8) but now I have only sysnand on 11.8 (luma3ds). And I have a hardmod installed and multiple nand dumps of my 9.0 sysnand (3 years old backups as well as from months/days ago) and backups of my emunand, so, basically I cant brick my N3DS even if I screw something up with 11.8, right?

With a hardmod, I suppose not. And I forgot about GW not supporting past 11.2 unless it's frankenfirmware. Frankenware is exactly what you had done by installing only the modules needed for GW emuNAND to recognize as 11.8, but not brick it (black screen boot).

To split your sysNAND/emuNAND again and still use GW, you would have to restore back to an 11.2 or earlier sysNAND version, and create your emuNAND from that. Since you've injected your GW emuNAND into sysNAND, I'm not sure if it's possible to recover now unless you took a backup of everything before you started the process you're at right now (which it seems you have).

By splitting your NAND's, you're still able to have an 11.8 sysNAND with an 11.2 or lower emuNAND to still read your GW .3DS files. You can still do the frankenware for GW emuNAND too as you previously had (installing cver, nver, friends module and eshop).

I'm assuming what you're after is having CIA's installed to your sysNAND with your saves/ect, and being able to load .3DS files from GW which you would want to do from an emuNAND to not risk losing B9S and cause more work/restores for yourself down the line. It'll take some work but is possible. You would need to do the following:

1. Restore sysNAND to 11.2 or earlier backup (9.0 is even fine)
2. Create a fresh GW emuNAND from that sysNAND version
3. Unlink your NAND's (sys format) and update sysNAND to 11.8
4. Inject your 11.8 frankenware emuNAND to sysNAND
5. Reinstall the sysmodules to your new 11.2 (or lower) GW emuNAND (cver, nver, friends module and eshop) to get it back to 11.8 as you wish

I believe that will give you what you're after. A ssyNAND with CIA's and saves from your current emuNAND installed, and a seperate GW emuNAND for loading .3DS files and all your current saves in tact in both sysNAND and emuNAND.

deSSy2724 · Aug 22, 2018

Tkank you for your time. So, basically having one single nand for both is not possible for full 11.8 firmware (GWs fault).

BTW im wondering if luma3ds would work with 11.8 franken firmware..... I see no reason why not (abandoned GW can do it, no reason why advanced CFW couldnt do it) but then again, that would kill the main purpose of having a luma3ds/B9S setup (basically 100% secure and hassle free OFW-like CFW).

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