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Vote yes on Prop 19

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At this point there really is no point to legalizing pot. Pot has lost it's true medical value and must people just want it legal so they can smoke themself stupid.
Being that this is America and America has the idea that if it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing.
 

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Rydian said:
The government doesn't want to legalize pot because then you'll have all the crackheads and meth users saying "They legalized pot, why not (insert body-wrecking substance here)!?!"

No, the government doesn't want to legalize pot because the politicians are all being paid off by the alcohol industry to prevent it, and because the 'war on drugs' gives the government an excuse to employ tens of thousands of heavily armed soldier-policemen nationwide to keep their thumb on our heads.

As for your suggestion, I actually support ending all these ridiculous drug prohibitions so I wouldn't mind a bit if crack and meth were legal. I'm a libertarian - I believe in liberty, and consequences. I am against laws that enable the government to dictate 'what's good for me.'
 

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Rydian said:
The government doesn't want to legalize pot because then you'll have all the crackheads and meth users saying "They legalized pot, why not (insert body-wrecking substance here)!?!"

At the moment people point to the damage alcohol does and say "If that's legal, why can't weed be legal' so I guess by that argument prohibition should never have been ended.
 

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I have to say, I'm really surprised at how many of you guys are comfortable with the idea of big government dictating behavior. Are you likewise in favor of the government regulating the content of video games? Cuz there's no difference.
 

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Hanafuda said:
Rydian said:
The government doesn't want to legalize pot because then you'll have all the crackheads and meth users saying "They legalized pot, why not (insert body-wrecking substance here)!?!"

No, the government doesn't want to legalize pot because the politicians are all being paid off by the alcohol industry to prevent it, and because the 'war on drugs' gives the government an excuse to employ tens of thousands of heavily armed soldier-policemen nationwide to keep their thumb on our heads.I call BS.
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Prove it.

BlueStar said:
QUOTE(Rydian @ Nov 2 2010, 03:26 PM)
The government doesn't want to legalize pot because then you'll have all the crackheads and meth users saying "They legalized pot, why not (insert body-wrecking substance here)!?!"
At the moment people point to the damage alcohol does and say "If that's legal, why can't weed be legal' so I guess by that argument prohibition should never have been ended.
Go read up on prohibition and see all the bad stuff it caused and why it was repealed.
 

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Rydian said:
Hanafuda said:
Rydian said:
The government doesn't want to legalize pot because then you'll have all the crackheads and meth users saying "They legalized pot, why not (insert body-wrecking substance here)!?!"

No, the government doesn't want to legalize pot because the politicians are all being paid off by the alcohol industry to prevent it, and because the 'war on drugs' gives the government an excuse to employ tens of thousands of heavily armed soldier-policemen nationwide to keep their thumb on our heads.
I call BS.
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Prove it.


It'll take you all of two seconds on google to see how the alcohol industry is pumping huge dollars into fighting marijuana legalization. As for greasing palms, where there's smoke there's fire.


http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2010/09/17...a-legalization/
http://murphreport.com/2010/09/19/alcohol-...strial-complex/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/21/t...e_n_732901.html
http://stopthedrugwar.org/trenches/2010/se...ms_law_enforcem
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2010/09...000_to_no_o.php
http://jonathanturley.org/2010/09/18/kettl...ation-campaign/
 

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If only prop 19 mattered... Marijuana's criminalization is a Federal law, so even if this passes, they can enforce the law and punish offenders. Keep in mind Scharzenegger de-criminalized it in Cullyfawnya awhile back, yet that also seems to have done nothing.

Anyway, I'd vote yes.
 

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F*** you prop 19, f*** you!

why would someone want to get cancer?

or Psychosis?

what about insomnia?

and anyone who says it isn't addictive and does not lead to violence, read this article, they obviously needed there fix.

I hope prop 19 goes down hard!
 

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The Living Shadow said:
and anyone who says it isn't addictive and does not lead to violence, read this article, they obviously needed there fix.

not for pot or anything... but that would not have happened if pot was legal
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also, it is not addictive physically but it can be addictive psychologically.
 

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The Living Shadow said:
F*** you prop 19, f*** you!

why would someone want to get cancer?

or Psychosis?

what about insomnia?

Maybe you'd like the nanny state to ban hamburgers as well to stop people getting bowel cancer? What does the criminalisation of weed mean? That people don't smoke it? No, just that criminals get rich off it and tax money and police time is wasted processing some guy minding his own business and smoking a spliff after work.

QUOTEand anyone who says it isn't addictive and does not lead to violence, read this article, they obviously needed there fix.

What absolute rubbish. It was a robbery for something of value. People have been killed in robberies targeting games stores as well, should video games be banned?
 

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I've smoked pot for 20 years now and never suffered any of the things being pushed forward here. I've never robbed anyone, never stolen to buy it, I can go weeks and months without smoking it without turning into a clucking mess, I've never snapped and shot up a McDonalds. As for insomnia, I've suffered it my whole life. When I was younger I'd go 2 or 3 days at a time without being able to sleep. When smoking a couple of bongs/joints a night I sleep deeply, regularly and always feel refreshed in the morning. As for it giving you cancer, living in modern society is more damaging to your lungs and genetics. Ever seen someone die from sitting in a room full of pot smoke? Now what would happen if you sat in a garage with the car running?

It hasn't made me stupid, it hasn't made me lazy and I'm definitely not dependent. Hell, I've met people more hooked on Facebook than me or my mates have ever been on pot. If you have an addictive or co-dependent personality it doesn't matter what the trigger, it could be Pokemon games, cheeseburgers, crack or even an abusive partner, it's the personality type that's at fault.
 

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Pretty disappointing how uninformed most people are. Even worse is how desperately they wish to control the victimless activities of other adults through the force of law.
 

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People shouldn't be treated as adults and make their own decisions about what to put in their bodies. No sir, they should adhere to strict rules. Who would want such a silly thing as civil liberties and personal freedoms? Certainly our safety should come first.

Fear is a medicine that is best served in high doses on a regular bases to keep the masses in their place.
 

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Blood Fetish said:
The most tragic part of all this is that we are causing far more violence and death by keeping cannabis illegal.
Same with all other drugs (if you can call cannabis a drug). That doesn't mean that we should legalize them.
 

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If you thought making something illegal would result in more violence, more fear, and more death then why would you support outlawing it?

Is not the point of law to protect the public?
 

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