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They weren't unreasonable, at one point in the past. The GBA SP? I don't even remember the last time I charged mine. And I play it regularly. Of course people would draw comparisons between all the previous consoles at some point, noting how battery life has been going down over time.
Batteries have been getting bigger, but they still can't keep up with the bigger power draw of more powerful devices. Of course GBA had good battery life, it wasn't trying to push PSX graphics.
 
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Heating issues would be my assumption. People have already reported their console warping in the dock, and I think even mine has slightly despite it always being fairly well ventilated.
Mine is curved as well, when I noticed it scared me a little.
 

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3 Hours Switch battery life when undocked is okay. I would still prefer 6-7 though.
That's not possible with current battery technology. Not unless you want a larger device, which most people already think it's too big. The battery technology argument is also why I believe a switch mini is not gonna happen. Smaller unit means smaller battery, which will mean even lower battery life, which people already feel is too low. Battery technology isn't improving at the same rate as technology.
 

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Batteries have been getting bigger, but they still can't keep up with the bigger power draw of more powerful devices. Of course GBA had good battery life, it wasn't trying to push PSX graphics.
On the other hand, big batteries make a device heavier. Which may be undesirable.

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You obviously don't play it regularly if you don't remember when you last charged it. You'll get maybe 5 hours if the battery isn't bad, but with how older batteries are you won't get that. I've owned one since childhood, and even then the battery didn't last this magically long amount you seem to think it lasts. Battery technology was worse back then. Only reason batteries might have lasted longer back then is that devices weren't that powerful. And battery technology hasn't publicly improved the same rate as portable technology.
I definitely do lmao. Also, it's a relatively recent battery, and definitely lasts significantly longer than any of my more recent handheld consoles. And, that's not my point.
 

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Heating issues would be my assumption. People have already reported their console warping in the dock, and I think even mine has slightly despite it always being fairly well ventilated.

Mine is curved as well, when I noticed it scared me a little.

Despite the world ending scenarios those people were touting, unless you honestly believe the switch is getting hot enough to bend metal, than your switch is not getting bent. There is a huge metal frame in the switch that would stop the switch from getting... well.. bent out of shape.
 
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Despite the world ending scenarios those people were touting, unless you honestly believe the switch is getting hot enough to bend metal, than your switch is not getting bent. There is a huge metal frame in the switch that would stop the switch from getting... well.. bent out of shape.
That would be true if the metal frame was there for structural support. But it's not. It isn't thick strong metal, and could easily give a little to the surrounding plastic bending. Along with that it isn't structurally connected to everything, meaning the plastic could easily bend without moving the metal much. I've measured and tested multiple times and yes the switch does bend a little.
 
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They weren't unreasonable, at one point in the past. The GBA SP? I don't even remember the last time I charged mine. And I play it regularly. Of course people would draw comparisons between all the previous consoles at some point, noting how battery life has been going down over time.

And hardware is getting more powerful, you honestly can't expect a system with PS3-like power to have a battery life of 10 hours, don't be ridiculous. GBA SP is weak, weaker hardware = longer battery.,
 

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That would be true if the metal frame was there for structural support. But it's not. It isn't thick strong metal, and could easily give a little to the surrounding plastic bending. Along with that it isn't structurally connected to everything, meaning the plastic could easily bend without moving the metal much. I've measured and tested multiple times and yes the switch does bend a little.
I thought it was common knowledge that the Switch can bend..
 

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Be aware TC that even on devices like the Shield TV and Google Pixel C (both which use the Tegra X1 with higher clock speeds), they also throttle based on heat. Switch does not throttle down from its designated clockspeed. It will simply shut itself down once it reaches a certain temperature (around 69C I think, which takes a lot for it to do so, like covering the vents, taking out the fan, etc). If the clockspeeds were higher and the system throttled like those other platforms, then we'd see performance jumps all over the place, and imo core console developers would have a fit. A point of consoles is consistency so these devs know just what they're working with, unlike the mobile scene where these other X1 platforms come into play, aa the mobile scene ranges a lot because of other weaker devices they want to run their apps.
 

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And hardware is getting more powerful, you honestly can't expect a system with PS3-like power to have a battery life of 10 hours, don't be ridiculous. GBA SP is weak, weaker hardware = longer battery.,
Not the point.
 

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It's common knowledge black cats are bad luck.

Common knowledge is often times... Not knowledge at all but rumors blown out of proportion.
Except that the switch bending is a regularly documented thing backed by evidence. But then people like you give the "common knowledge" that "the switch has metal in it so it can't bend", even though there are the facts that its a thin weak metal that can easily conform to the shape of a bent switch, it isn't there for structural support and the outer plastic can lightly bend without causing too much bending on the internals.
 

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Except that the switch bending is a regularly documented thing backed by evidence. But then people like you give the "common knowledge" that "the switch has metal in it so it can't bend", even though there are the facts that its a thin weak metal that can easily conform to the shape of a bent switch, it isn't there for structural support and the outer plastic can lightly bend without causing too much bending on the internals.

You say it's back by evidence.. Can you please show me this actual evidence?
 

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It's common knowledge black cats are bad luck.

Common knowledge is often times... Not knowledge at all but rumors blown out of proportion.

Now you're just twisting definitions to fit your argument. The whole black cat shtick is superstition.
 

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You say it's back by evidence.. Can you please show me this actual evidence?
Measured against a straight edge. It's minor, but it is bent. It was the same before I replaced the back plastic.
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Then why hasn't every switch that's been played in dock mode bent

Unless your saying the switch gets hot enough to bend plastic.. at that point, the switch wouldn't be the only thing bent, the dock would be too and even touching it would burn your hand.

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Then why hasn't every switch that's been played in dock mode bent

Unless your saying the switch gets hot enough to bend plastic.. at that point, the switch wouldn't be the only thing bent, the dock would be too and even touching it would burn your hand.

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A few switches being bent isn't grounds to believe they ALL suffer the imperfection. You'll find flaws like this in a small percentage of just about any piece of hardware. Shit happens, but you choosing not to believe it doesn't make it any less true..
 
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