Does anyone here take antidepressants?

[Joom]

Only a fool would take psychiatric advice from somebody who calls themselves Total Insanity. rofl


here's the link again. become a master of your thoughts instead.

The concept of self help makes no sense. If it's somebody else helping you it's not self help. There's also more to depression than just negative thoughts and feeling sorry for yourself. Many that are clinically diagnosed have chemical imbalances. Low serotonin, low estrogen/testosterone, an under active thyroid, and many other factors can lead to depression. It's not always just some mental hoop that someone can overcome with a change of perspective.

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I am intrigued by how SSRIs are used to treat depression despite the fact that there is little scientific evidence that suggests a connection between low levels of serotonin and depression.

There's actually a good bit. Read up on Suicide Tuesday and the correlation between MDMA use and depression.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The concept of self help makes no sense. If it's somebody else helping you it's not self help. There's also more to depression than just negative thoughts and feeling sorry for yourself. Many that are clinically diagnosed have chemical imbalances. Low serotonin, low estrogen/testosterone, an under active thyroid, and many other factors can lead to depression. It's not always just some mental hoop that someone can overcome with a change of perspective.

That ^^

 

[SG854]

The concept of self help makes no sense. If it's somebody else helping you it's not self help.

This video explains that perfectly.

Many that are clinically diagnosed have chemical imbalances. Low serotonin, low estrogen/testosterone, an under active thyroid, and many other factors can lead to depression. It's not always just some mental hoop that someone can overcome with a change of perspective.

Yes, telling someone to think happy thoughts isn't going to work if there is something wrong in their brain chemistry. What needs to be done is something that physically alters the chemistry in the brain. Interestingly many psychologists get into the field so they can fix there own problems, they are some of the most depressed people. Which they see as a positive trait because its a lot easier to help people if you went through the same experiences yourself. Being a therapist or a counselor in the NHS, part of the training is to address your own difficulties, since everybody has them. I did take a psychology class in college, though it was only one class I took.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

dont do it .. its a complete trap ... " feeling down " take these pills .. you will still feel even worse .. so you take more pills .. & get worse.. years later " feeling down " try stronger pills .. BIGGER trap ... i quit that nonsense many moons ago ... & just stick to weed .. we all get depressed ... and one way or another we all get outta that mood ... BUT THEM PILLS ARE EVIL PURE MIND CONTROL... have a smoke drink a beer whatever it takes ... but i say leave them pills alone

If the medication makes it worse, then you have a different problem than what the medication helps with, which most times can worsen the symptoms of the actual problem.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

If the medication makes it worse, then you have a different problem than what the medication helps with, which most times can worsen the symptoms of the actual problem.

Or the dosage is wrong. For instance, 10mg of Fluoxitine was ok for me before I began building a resistance to it, but 20mg is almost worse than taking nothing at all

Body chemistry is weird

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Only a fool would take psychiatric advice from somebody who calls themselves Total Insanity. rofl


here's the link again. become a master of your thoughts instead.

People who think this way either don't have any mental illness or have it so slight it's easy to control. You can't think away brain chemistry imbalances.

 

[comput3rus3r]

People who think this way either don't have any mental illness or have it so slight it's easy to control. You can't think away brain chemistry imbalances.

You're wrong. your thoughts produce the chemistry. it's the easiest thing to prove. If you think about something that makes you happy... the sentence itself proves the point. The thought is what creates the emotion. Big business pharma spends billions trying to convince people otherwise.

 

[Aurora Wright]

You're wrong. your thoughts produce the chemistry. it's the easiest thing to prove. If you think about something that makes you happy... the sentence itself proves the point. The thought is what creates the emotion. Big business pharma spends billions trying to convince people otherwise.

"Thinking it away" isn't as easy as you make it sound. If it was that easy no one would have chronic depression.
Is it possible to treat depression by counseling and without meds? Yes. But it's harder. Here they recommend a two-sided approach.
Is it true that in the US psych drugs are often abused? Also yes, it happened with someone I cared about, who ended up in the hospital because of interactions among 5 drugs and they didn't have any counseling, just the drugs.

 

[proflayton123]

This thread has gotten quite controversial.. not sure how to feel about it


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[proflayton123]

Or the dosage is wrong. For instance, 10mg of Fluoxitine was ok for me before I began building a resistance to it, but 20mg is almost worse than taking nothing at all

Body chemistry is weird

I take 40mg myself


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[The Catboy]

You're wrong. your thoughts produce the chemistry. it's the easiest thing to prove. If you think about something that makes you happy... the sentence itself proves the point. The thought is what creates the emotion. Big business pharma spends billions trying to convince people otherwise.

You can't just think away depression, that's not how it works. Depression is an actual mental disorder that requires actual treatment. It's something that isn't controlled by thoughts nor actions. If that were the case, I should have been cured of my depression months ago. I have the job I wanted, my debt is under control, my bills are paid on time, I have no threat of loosing my apartment nor my medical pet, my life is actually in a much better place. Yet I am still dealing my depression despite being overall being a happier person.
Your suggestion is basically like telling someone to think away their broken leg.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

You're wrong. your thoughts produce the chemistry. it's the easiest thing to prove. If you think about something that makes you happy... the sentence itself proves the point. The thought is what creates the emotion. Big business pharma spends billions trying to convince people otherwise.

"Don't be homeless, just buy a house!"

 

[retrofan_k]

@Crystal the Glaceon. Crystal is on point with her last comment and is very true.

Basically, you could have a very stable life, including a decent job, income, family, friends, feel fine one minute and the next week, you can barely get out of bed, eat or function properly without warning.

You cannot think yourself better at all and turn it off like a faucet. Depression does not work like that.

 

[comput3rus3r]

"Don't be homeless, just buy a house!"

Right, because thoughts costs you money. great analogy. again total insanity giving mental health advice.

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You can't just think away depression, that's not how it works. Depression is an actual mental disorder that requires actual treatment. It's something that isn't controlled by thoughts nor actions. If that were the case, I should have been cured of my depression months ago. I have the job I wanted, my debt is under control, my bills are paid on time, I have no threat of loosing my apartment nor my medical pet, my life is actually in a much better place. Yet I am still dealing my depression despite being overall being a happier person.
Your suggestion is basically like telling someone to think away their broken leg.

Depression is nothing more than a set of mental habits. And yes you can think it away. as a matter of fact that is exactly what you do when you are not in the actual mode of depression.
Why are you people so lazy? All these stupid questions would be answered if you just watch the video i posted. Here it is again for those of you who actually want to get better and not have an excuse for why you are "depressed"

 

[The Catboy]

Right, because thoughts costs you money. great analogy. again total insanity giving mental health advice.

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Depression is nothing more than a set of mental habits. And yes you can think it away. as a matter of fact that is exactly what you do when you are not in the actual mode of depression.
Why are you people so lazy? All these stupid questions would be answered if you just watch the video i posted. Here it is again for those of you who actually want to get better and not have an excuse for why you are "depressed"

Right, so I should trust the guy with no medical training and having been sued for copyright infringement and plagiarism. Over my actual doctor, who has actual medical training and has spent years actually helping people heal.
I am not going to entertain a conman trying to sell snake oil to me in the form of written text. He has no actual medical degrees, he has no actual medical training, and clearly he has no actual creativity. The idea of curing depression through "self help" books isn't just ludicrous, it's moronic and has no basis in reality. Like I said before, you might as well try thinking away your broken leg too.

 

[Joom]

Right, because thoughts costs you money. great analogy. again total insanity giving mental health advice.

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Depression is nothing more than a set of mental habits. And yes you can think it away. as a matter of fact that is exactly what you do when you are not in the actual mode of depression.
Why are you people so lazy? All these stupid questions would be answered if you just watch the video i posted. Here it is again for those of you who actually want to get better and not have an excuse for why you are "depressed"

Wow you're dumb. It's rather insulting when somebody that has absolutely no grasp on what they're talking about plays armchair psychologist. His analogy was perfect. You're just too inept to perceive it. Maybe "pray the gay away" would have made more sense, since that's essentially what you're saying. You obviously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and have never dealt with actual depression. I can't believe you have the audacity to call people with depression lazy. You've obviously never dealt with it. And fuck off with that garbage ass video. Nobody's going to watch it because it's entirely bullshit.

 

[comput3rus3r]

Wow you're dumb. It's rather insulting when somebody that has absolutely no grasp on what they're talking about plays armchair psychologist. His analogy was perfect. You're just too inept to perceive it. Maybe "pray the gay away" would have made more sense, since that's essentially what you're saying. You obviously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and have never dealt with actual depression. I can't believe you have the audacity to call people with depression lazy. You've obviously never dealt with it. And fuck off with that garbage ass video. Nobody's going to watch it because it's entirely bullshit.

You sound so eloquent. A real intellectual. lol you deserve the life you have.

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Right, so I should trust the guy with no medical training and having been sued for copyright infringement and plagiarism. Over my actual doctor, who has actual medical training and has spent years actually helping people heal.
I am not going to entertain a conman trying to sell snake oil to me in the form of written text. He has no actual medical degrees, he has no actual medical training, and clearly he has no actual creativity. The idea of curing depression through "self help" books isn't just ludicrous, it's moronic and has no basis in reality. Like I said before, you might as well try thinking away your broken leg too.

sell you snake oil? its' a free online video. What they ARE selling you is dangerous prescription drugs. but hey it's ur life to waste.

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You can lead a donkey to the water but you can't make him drink.


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The irony here is that some of you here commenting on mental wellbeing admit to being crazy yourself. ie. the guy who calls himself total insanity and crystal the glaceon's location
Crystal the GlaceonThe Legend will always live on
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[SLiV3R]

I ate different antidepressive and antipsychosis medicins for over 10 years. And yes, they can help you in the short term.

I ate my last antidepressive pills 2 years ago and my Life is really good nowadays

 

[SG854]

You sound so eloquent. A real intellectual. lol you deserve the life you have.

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sell you snake oil? its' a free online video. What they ARE selling you is dangerous prescription drugs. but hey it's ur life to waste.

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You can lead a donkey to the water but you can't make him drink.


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The irony here is that some of you here commenting on mental wellbeing admit to being crazy yourself. ie. the guy who calls himself total insanity and crystal the glaceon's location
Crystal the GlaceonThe Legend will always live on
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Heres a better video of Tony Robbins.


There are a lot of Self Help books and Seminars that are bullshit. They bank on people using pseudoscience crap.
Im sure you also idolize Oprah Winfrey's The Secret Book.

 

[comput3rus3r]

Heres a better video of Tony Robbins.


There are a lot of Self Help books and Seminars that are bullshit. They bank on people using pseudoscience crap.
Im sure you also idolize Oprah Winfrey's The Secret Book.

Family Guy. that's the level of mentality we are dealing with today. I thought it was actually gonna say something interesting but no just made Tony into some man eating monster because.... they couldn't come up with anything to actually say.

just because i'm recommending tony robbins doesn't mean i like Oprah. You know what they say about assuming...