All of a sudden, everyone on gbatemp is a lawyer
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All of a sudden, everyone on gbatemp is a lawyer
Yes we are sure, the team who made the hack explained how.Are you sure? I recall reading somewhere that the Wii had bricking code in one of it's updates specifically targeting users of The Homebrew Channel. It did get some non-homebrew users though...
Wii would like to size your 3DSBy "seizing their property back at any moment." Are you referring to Nintendo's policy of coming to someones front door step and asking them for your Nintendo console for "unauthorized software" ???
Actually now that I think about that it seems weird but funny at the same time lol. And of course i'm just joking lmao
You used unauthorised software, broke the ToS, got service denied, but Nintendo is at fault? Okay. Lemme tell you, if you walk into McDonald's nude, you'll also be denied service, and I doubt the employees will explain why. You know what you did, and if you think it's unwarranted, contest it - they have logs. The reason why Nintendo reserves the right to discontinue service is because they're not able to support a console indefinitely, you *agreed* to their terms, nobody forces you to use Nintendo Network.Seriously? Before jumping on people try to read...
I broke the ToS? Prove it. If you can't or won't, you're the one breaking the EULA by not giving a service we agreed on. But it is completely rhetorical as I said because the EULA specify that Nintendo reserve itself the right to ban whoever they want whenever they want. That's the part that I would consider abusive. Of course to play that card you'd better not have broken the ToS or EULA because obviously Nintendo can prove you used unauthorized software.
Yes, I expected a code that specifically says that I'm banned because I used unauthorized software instead of a generic code which explanation differs from a country to another.
And just to be even clearer, I'm not contesting the ban. I perfectly knew what I was doing when I hacked my consoles (1 banned, 1 not... yet).
Can you read?You used unauthorised software, broke the ToS, got service denied, but Nintendo is at fault? Okay. Lemme tell you, if you walk into McDonald's nude, you'll also be denied service, and I doubt the employees will explain why. You know what you did, and if you think it's unwarranted, contest it - they have logs. The reason why Nintendo reserves the right to discontinue service is because they're not able to support a console indefinitely, you *agreed* to their terms, nobody forces you to use Nintendo Network.
On a 3DS, you're not forced to agree to anything (in fact, depending on the country you select, there may not even be an Agree button!)How does this affect the EULA that you're forced to agree to when first starting up a new system?
Truth is, Nintendo Network is not a public service and you may be denied it for any reason, outside of illegal (discriminatory) reasonsIf I received a message saying you've been ban for using "this software" I would be perfectly fine with it.
But without justification I could argue that I'm wrongfully banned and that it is Nintendo that breaks the EULA.
Are you sure? I recall reading somewhere that the Wii had bricking code in one of it's updates specifically targeting users of The Homebrew Channel. It did get some non-homebrew users though...
Can you read?
I never said it was Nintendo fault, on the contrary. I never contested anything, on the contrary. It was just fucking rhetorical.
To follow your reasoning, if you steal something I can put you in jail without proving you actually did it.
And I agree. What I was hypothetically arguing on is how do you know it is "outside of illegal (discriminatory) reasons" if no reasons are given when you're banned?Truth is, Nintendo Network is not a public service and you may be denied it for any reason, outside of illegal (discriminatory) reasons
That's exactly the proper way to do discrimination in the USA (at least according to movies I watched ) - you didn't fire your subordinate because they're homesexuals, but rather because you simply don't need them anymore, and now you've passed the burden of proof too...And I agree. What I was hypothetically arguing on is how do you know it is "outside of illegal (discriminatory) reasons" if no reasons are given when you're banned?
That's why I said a specific code for "unauthorized software use" would have been nice. That way you know you're banned and for what reason without Nintendo having to justify anything.
Possible yes, researched and implemented noSo how long until we get a emulated Nintendo network where we can play online on 3rd part servers? Is this even possible atm?
Doctor Who, anybody?Well, I believe the bans would still hold. If that case's verdict holds up, then technically yes - we are allowed to modify the console, but that doesn't mean Nintendo can't ban us for it. Legal stuff is always wobbly.
Sadly, in the US, laws aren't retroactive. So any bans made before the courts ruled can still be permanent. Can still try to appeal, but still unlikely. Highly unlikely, whether or not this ruling has any effect.If you were banned because a pirated game shows on your activity log or if a cheat is detected it would probably be a permanent ban since you violated the TOS for the online service.
If you were banned based on homebrew launcher activity, you may get your ban reversed since that is legal and you have the right to mod.
I think Nintendo didn't ban your NNID like what Sony and MS have done the past because this case was underway. If Lexmark won Nintendo would probably go ahead and continue on and remove eShop access purchased games on your account just like the PSN/Live ban. But since Impression won I guess the worst they can do is restrict online access but still allow users to access their purchased games on eShoop.