Hacking TX SX Faq #2 (Homebrew on all firmware Support and Payload Loading from SD Card!!!

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Thats true but if you are getting TX License/dongle whats the point on staying low? Their product is based on the idea to use their dongle to load CFW. Softmod CFW could be a thing but we dont know when and how hard it would be.

I think lower FWs have a higher probability of having new exploits found that could potentially lead to a no payload injector solution. If they had emuNAND it would be a no brainer, they don't though. Even though we know it should be in their realm of capability it's not going to be a launch feature? It's not a lot of money for this thing at all, I'm not saying it's a ripoff for 25 dollars I'm not that much of a jackass but I don't even update my non-rooted phone incase a solution comes along some time. It's like getting a tatoo or something else permanent that you could end up regretting dreadfully later on.

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I'm saying people hype their own stuff, it's human nature.



This isn't out either.



Right, but there is also no reason to believe that atmosphere won't get all the same functionality as SX OS. Pre-orders are driven by Fear Of Missing out as nobody can predict the future.
Dude it's software, they're not going to run out of megabytes.
 

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Now they are answering "dah" questions - and slipping in their "responsibility deligation" regarding the expected online bans. :)

Way to go TX. :)

From now on its people own responsibility, when they are getting banned as part of the game, or firmware update process, right?

You don't have anything to do with that!

And you've warned them!

People really should have listened...

The only real "news" in this release, and that is, that they linked the HBL nro as part of their patches. Thats 2 seconds of work on their part, btw. And now they can advertise "homebrew support". As an afterthought.
 
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According to the Q&A, TX notice us that we will get banned if you play online game.

Where the hell does it say that? I swear, people nowadays can't read english.

  • Q: Does SX OS supports online gaming?
    A:
    SX OS supports playing online. However, we can't guarantee Nintendo is not able to detect you are using SX OS.
    So playing online is at your own risk.

My 3DS has been hacked for years (a9lh/b9s) and i can still play online with downloaded .cias.

This is how misinformation is spread around. TX did NOT say that you will get banned if you play online. Don't twist their words.
 

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I think lower FWs have a higher probability of having new exploits found that could potentially lead to a no payload injector solution. If they had emuNAND it would be a no brainer, they don't though. Even though we know it should be in their realm of capability it's not going to be a launch feature? It's not a lot of money for this thing at all, I'm not saying it's a ripoff for 25 dollars I'm not that much of a jackass but I don't even update my non-rooted phone incase a solution comes along some time. It's like getting a tatoo or something else permanent that you could end up regretting dreadfully later on.

Yeah i understand what you are saying, what i mean is there is no point if they are giving you the "solution" right away. The whole idea of TX dongle is to used it to load their CFW.

They decided that the dongle/payload injection is the way to go, so what they are selling is based on that idea. Stuff like EmuNAND/softmod exploits dont fit that criteria son is not first priority. Still, they said it could be added later on so theres that.
 

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Yeah i understand what you are saying, what i mean is there is no point if they are giving you the "solution" right away. The whole idea of TX dongle is to used it to load their CFW.

They decided that the dongle/payload injection is the way to go, so what they are selling is based on that idea. Stuff like EmuNAND/softmod exploits dont fit that criteria son is not first priority. Still, they said it could be added later on so theres that.
Ohh, maybe I do misunderstand completely. Is their CFW not based on the console's sysNAND? Is it an entire cfw that will support new games based on it alone? I honestly don't know.
 

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Ohh, maybe I do misunderstand completely. Is their CFW not based on the console's sysNAND? Is it an entire cfw that will support new games based on it alone? I honestly don't know.
For someone so ignorant you sure know how to accuse people of being planted by team xecuter
 
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Ohh, maybe I do misunderstand completely. Is their CFW not based on the console's sysNAND? Is it an entire cfw that will support new games based on it alone? I honestly don't know.

Oh, no i dont think is that. Sorry if i misslead you. I think they said that you need to be on the firmware that the games requires to be able to play it, so yeah your concern about EmuNAND and staying low on SysNAND but updating EmuNAND for games is valid for TX CFW. You need to update.


For someone so ignorant you sure know how to accuse people of being planted by team xecuter

Dont want to get into it but i think that comment is unnecesary, hes just asking something.
 

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Oh, no i dont think is that. Sorry if i misslead you. I think they said that you need to be on the firmware that the games requires to be able to play it, so yeah your concern about EmuNAND and staying low on SysNAND but updating EmuNAND for games is valid for TX CFW. You need to update.




Dont want to get into it but i think that comment is unnecesary, hes just asking something.
He did insinuate that I was planted by tx based on no evidence at all. That's what's unnecessary
 
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For someone so ignorant you sure know how to accuse people of being planted by team xecuter
I did imply that I thought you could potentially be a plant. On the other hand you didn't explain what about this new faq made you even happier you preordered a piece of software that you would be able to use as soon as it's launched regardless if you have the dongle yet or not. Here's the other thing I'm trying to spread a new leaf and not get into flamewars because I enjoy them too much. Now you've called me an idiot and ignorant so far, and while they very may well be accurate descriptors they are none the less hostile ones at that. Yes I do think the same of you based on your bolded statement followed by a FAQ that I see no reason for anybody to get excited about I did not say it explicitly. I merely compared it to the mindless drones you see on paid advertising. At this point I do not think you have any association with any hacking team because you just don't fit the bill.
 

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I did imply that I thought you could potentially be a plant. On the other hand you didn't explain what about this new faq made you even happier you preordered a piece of software that you would be able to use as soon as it's launched regardless if you have the dongle yet or not. Here's the other thing I'm trying to spread a new leaf and not get into flamewars because I enjoy them too much. Now you've called me an idiot and ignorant so far, and while they very may well be accurate descriptors they are none the less hostile ones at that. Yes I do think the same of you based on your bolded statement followed by a FAQ that I see no reason for anybody to get excited about I did not say it explicitly. I merely compared it to the mindless drones you see on paid advertising. At this point I do not think you have any association with any hacking team because you just don't fit the bill.
I don't care if I don't fit your bill
You displayed your true ignorance anyway, so why should your opinion matter?
 
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I don't care if I don't fit your bill
You displayed your true ignorance anyway, so why should your opinion matter?

Ok so you are associated? Here's the thing, forget the measly 25 dollars this thing cost. Is it not worth waiting for emuNAND so one doesn't lose the potential advantage of whatever lower firmware may have? I like Team Xecuter I think they are cool guys and deserve every cent they charge for this but as a consumer is it worth the updating?

Also I haven't given an opinion on anything except your statement on being happier. I think though due to you ignoring it maybe you realize it was foolish so you'd rather tear me down then face that fact. And I get that, not everyone has a strong will and can be easily frazzled when called out on a public forum like this. I am truly sorry for upsetting you to that point if I had known being compared to a stupid infomercial jerk would have set off some dormant feelings I would not have done it at all, I mean this truly. I think you could be capable of great feats and I don't want to be mentioned by name in any notes you might leave your loved ones so please take my apology.
 

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May I say - what a bunch of lying wheasel words on part of their product department?

Im of course refering to this:
As you can see in this second Q&A, which answers some requests from customers, a lot of features are coming in future updates.

All your requests are welcome. Please email @xecuter.com with your suggestions/features ideas, if they are technically doable, we will add them to our development to-do list.
Lies. Nothing but Lies. As a result of feedback, they wrote two lines of code. Then they wrote fifty lines of marketing bullsh't to paddle it off as "great new features" and a great user centric effort.

What a bunch of...

SX Pro (and SX OS) is a fantastic product as it is, but it will only get better over time with all the improvements our development team will bring you, free for life with your SX OS license.
SX OS is a SH*T product, with entirely unnecessary DRM - whose license will buy you nothing but neglect, because you've supplied them with all the money they'll get out of you at the point of purchase.

SX Pro (and SX OS) is a fantastic product as it is, but it will only get better over time with all the improvements our development team will bring you, free for life with your SX OS license.

To demonstrate that, you can see below our first Q&A, which has been corrected since our first one a a few days ago, and will delight our favorites advanced/geek users with their favorite feature (after ROMs, although they will never admit it :)
  • Q: Can SX products run homebrew software as well?
    A:
    The initial release of SX OS will have support for running homebrew software for all firmware versions.
    In the initial release, launching the homebrew menu can be done by starting the photoviewer application while holding the R button on the Joy-Con. A file called "hbmenu.nro" needs to be on the root of the microSD card and a folder "switch" needs to contain all the homebrew applications.
    We will naturally continue to improve homebrew support and easy of use in future update
All they did there was a two line code change to let you launch the work of others. Also they are not at all set up to "improve homebrew support" in any way in the future. They have nothing to do with it, as far as we can tell, and will always piggyback off the work of others.
That they want to make you think, that they will be responsible for improving anyithing on that front is a marketing lie and and absolute outrage.

Q: If a game runs natively on an OFW x.yy and above, can SX OS run the game even if the console has a lower firmware?
  • A: Currently no. We have added that request to our list of features to look into.
This is about as dishonest as you can get as well.

This would require an entire different method and approach from what they chose to sell as a product. They can promise nothing of that sort in the near to mid term future.

They didn't need user feedback to "think about" that, they thought about it - and decided, to sell users something different.

I hate PR lies - I especially hate them, when they are trying to congratulate you for your intelligent input that lead to "features". The hack it did.

If they try to sell off almost zero effort changes, as something they are not - even prior to release, I can't wait on their track record from now on... Never heard of "be humble, and don't exaggerate as part of your press statements", havent they.

They really think they can sell on hype, and not on reviews.
 
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May I say - what a bunch of lying wheasel words on part of their product department?

Im of course refering to this:

Lies. Nothing but Lies. As a result of feedback, they wrote two lines of code. Then they wrote fifty lines of marketing bullsh't to paddle it off as "great new features" and a great user centric effort.

What a bunch of...


SX OS is a SH*T product, with entirely unnecessary DRM - whose license will buy you nothing but neglect, because you've supplied them with all the money they'll get out of you at the point of purchase.


All they did there was a two line code change to let you launch the work of others. Also they are not at all set up to "improve homebrew support" in any way in the future. They have nothing to do with it, as far as we can tell, and will always piggyback off the work of others.
That they want to make you think, that they will be responsible for improving anyithing on that front is a marketing lie and and absolute outrage.


This is about as dishonest as you can get as well.

This would require an entire different method and approach from what they chose to sell as a product. They can promise nothing of that sort in the near to mid term future.

They didn't need user feedback to "think about" that, they thought about it - and decided, to sell users something different.

I hate PR lies - I especially hate them, when they are trying to congratulate you for your intelligent input that lead to "features". The hack it did.

If they try to sell off almost zero effort changes, as something they are not - even prior to release, I can't wait on their track record from now on... Never heard of "be humble, and don't exaggerate as part of your press statements", havent they.

They really think they can sell on hype, and not on reviews.
Literally all of what you said is pandering bullshit that has nothing to back it up.
 

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Any and all modifications to your system that Nintendo hasn't authorized can result in getting you banned once you connect your Switch to their Network aka going online. Emphasis on can, but disclaimers like these are always important because if someone starts complaining they're banned for using some type of hack, we can at least say we warned you in advance.
 

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The only new thing they didn't have up front, is a two line code change to let you launch the HBL nro.

There is nothing else they did, to rectify the story about the "highly responsive company - reacting to consumer requests".

Its a ruse.

Creative writing skills.

They didn't do anything else.
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To back up the part where I insisted that they lied, when saying, that asking "if you could play newer games on older firmware - made them think really hard, and forward that question to their dev department" - is a an outrage of a PR lie - you really nead nothing more than common sense.

Any developer working on that thing, thinks about that questions in the first minutes he's on the task.

So dont try to play this off as "great and valuable user feedback you were getting".

Almost none of TX's features were designed with the user benefit in mind. And now they try to cover that over with a PR campaign of "we are so accessible and sesponsive".

The heck they are.

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When I am talking about never putting user interests first in their entire design process - I'm talking about those decisions: https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-cons-of-using-sx-os.504848/page-6#post-7995080

And now they are trying to launch a fake pre release "social responsibility campaign" with nothing but fake "this is how much we care" bullet points, made up out of thin air.

They did nothing as a result of the feedback they got. Except to write two lines of code. To then write fifty lines of marketing BS to sell you a new feature - and make this the first point in a fake "we listen to your worries" campaign.

Please excuse me for catching this out.

I also very much dislike their first paragraphs, where they always speak about their excellent products - simply by adverb attribution. Thats some really shitty NLP methodology as well.

Some people catch that, you know?

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Also - people please don't go by likes on arguments, go by actual arguments - because they have their PR accounts roaming in here as well.

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Q: When you put your Switch into Sleep mode, do I need to insert dongle again upon waking up?
A:
No, you don't. Just resume playing where you left it.

how about if we shutdown switch??
 

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Q: When you put your Switch into Sleep mode, do I need to insert dongle again upon waking up?
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No, you don't. Just resume playing where you left it.

how about if we shutdown switch??
Yes... Cuz then you have to relaunch the loader.
 

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How does it contradict the last FAQ?
  • Q: Can I buy one SX Pro and one SX OS license separately, and use the dongle and tool with two switches?
    A:
    Yes, you can buy additional SX OS Licenses and use one dongle and tool for all your Switch consoles.
You need to buy a software license per switch, they suppport more than one licence per dongle.

This is what they said before:
  • Q: Is SX OS tied to my console/dongle?
    A:
    Yes. In case of SX Pro the license is tied to your dongle and console. In case of SX Lite the license is tied to your license code and console.
It seems consistent to me


It is the part where they said previously the license is tied to your dongle and console in the case of the pro.

That makes it sound like the dongle is one per license as well. They went out of their way to specify that was the case and that with the Lite it would only be tied to your console.

So it was contradictory, or at least a bit confusing / oddly worded as I said. I definitely wasn't the only person that interpreted it that way from what I have read.
 
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