federal judge ruled DACA unlawful,

[Deleted member 668561]

The point was more or less that no one had an issue with “legality” and the process was far simpler to become “legal” when it was people from Europe. It only suddenly became an issue when it was people trying to come to America from the Central and South America, Asia, and even Southern parts of Europe. Anti-immigration laws have always had a long and racist history that only seem to be created to focus on blocking very specific groups of people, specifically people of groups not deemed “White.” Anti-immigration laws have always had a long history in being racially motivated.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hi...legal-border-crossing-usa-mexico-section-1325
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/the-birth-of-illegal-immigration

what about ellis island? italians, eastern europeans, etc faced discrimination aswell

 

[ChronoTrig]

what about ellis island? italians, eastern europeans, etc faced discrimination aswell

A lot of people crossing through Ellis Island also were even made to change their last name due to the ignorance of people not being able to pronounce their names (also some did it as well so they wouldn't be different than other's and the name would be easier to pronounce / they wouldn't have any issues). I'd say that's pretty discriminatory.

 

[The Catboy]

what about ellis island? italians, eastern europeans, etc faced discrimination aswell

I mentioned them because those are groups of people who many didn’t (and some still don’t,) considered White due to their skin color being slightly different different compared the paler “White” from Northern/Central Europeans and were actually discriminated against. This included in the references I had posted.

 

[Deleted member 668561]

I mentioned them because those are groups of people who many didn’t (and some still don’t,) considered White due to their skin color being slightly different different compared the paler “White” from Northern/Central Europeans and were actually discriminated against. This included in the references I had posted.

Back then they weren't "white" a stereotypical "white American" is one who has English or western European roots


A Greaser and a slav, after ww 1&2 Krauts aren't the darkest skinned people, they may tan well, but they come from the "Caucasus mountains"

 

[The Catboy]

Back then they weren't "white" a stereotypical "white American" is one who has English or western European roots


A Greaser and a slav, after ww 1&2 Krauts aren't the darkest skinned people, they may tan well, but they come from the "Caucasus mountains"

I think my post was a bit off because “White” is a subjective term and sometimes the discrimination is based on skin and sometimes locations. Irish people used to not be considered “White,” despite being ghostly white. But typically, it’s people who’s skin tone is slightly darker than your average Northern European who is more commonly discriminated against.

 

[Deleted member 668561]

A white African immigrant (yeah he was born and lived in Africa), had to move to china before being able to move to the USA


Should watch that video, as he has experienced actual racism


I agree with him, people nowadays just use racism to shut down an argument, or with anyone who thinks different from them

There's a difference between prejudice, racist, and oppression/persecution

Then there is being offened and having your feelings hurt


I'd rather have my feelings hurt, than have a tire forcibly shove around my neck, filled with gasoline, then lit on fire for you to sit and burn to death (it's called "necklacing" there), and nobody does anything about it


Should watch that full video, he just says it how it is

 

[D34DL1N3R]

I do know what it's really about though. Votes. Democrats want control and they need as many votes as they can possibly muster up and since they don't mind lying, cheating, stealing and breaking the law these illegals provide much needed votes for them.

Do I honestly need to post videos for you of Republicans lying, cheating, stealing, and breaking the law? It's fine to have an opinion, but holy fuck. Hypocrite much? If you're going to criticize one side or the other, at least try to not look like a moron in the process.

 

[Lacius]

I do know what it's really about though. Votes. Democrats want control and they need as many votes as they can possibly muster up and since they don't mind lying, cheating, stealing and breaking the law these illegals provide much needed votes for them.

1. DACA doesn't offer a pathway to citizenship, so no votes there.
2. Only one of the political parties is perpetuating a big lie about widespread voter fraud in an attempt to overturn a democratic election.
3. Only one of the political parties is trying to create unnecessary and disproportionate burdens on voting in an attempt to steal elections by making them less democratic.

Boy, that backfired on you, huh?

 

[Deleted User]

Only one of the political parties is perpetuating a big lie about widespread voter fraud in an attempt to overturn a democratic election.

Not only that, only one of them also supported a insurrection and trying to claim it was a peaceful protest. Evidence doesn't get more damning when people are actively searching for Nancy Pelosi and shouting"kill mike pence"



and also having multiple extremist groups who had body armor, gas, which was thrown at the police, and a lot of other problems during January 6th

 

[Deleted member 668561]

Why do I feel as if we'll see more American Immigrants come to Canada england and Europe etc in the future

 

[JaNDeRPeiCH]

NOOOO!
KEEP THEM! KEEP THEM!
DON'T SEND SUDACAS TO MEXICO!

Better send them to their respect nations, we dont want those people all crammed in the mexican prisons,Because the covid its very agressive with the variant delta. México have huge healthy problems and we are dealing very bad to get the vaccines,Thanks to our shitty president.

 

[orangy57]

no balls just open the borders so that immigrants won't overstay their visas out of fear of not being able to return

 

[jimbo13]

Why do I feel as if we'll see more American Immigrants come to Canada England and Europe etc in the future

It is very difficult to immigrate to Canada, they require you to learn both French & English and all the traditional civic instruction we used to mandate. You must be financially solvent and a benefit, not a detractor to the Canadian economy.

They only have 40 million people in Canada and do not allow just anyone to waltz in, this is why they can afford nice things like universal healthcare. They don't tolerate parasitic entities displacing their citizens in any aspect.

I am fortunate to be married to a Canadian I live on the border, When I cross in to Canada I bring my marriage license and wife because it's much faster. As a country that puts the welfare of it's citizens over foreigners the background check they do is very time consuming and extensive as it should be.

 

[Deleted member 668561]

It is very difficult to immigrate to Canada, they require you to learn both French & English and all the traditional civic instruction we used to mandate. You must be financially solvent and a benefit, not a detractor to the Canadian economy.

They only have 40 million people in Canada and do not allow just anyone to waltz in, this is why they can afford nice things like universal healthcare. They don't tolerate parasitic entities displacing their citizens in any aspect.

I am fortunate to be married to a Canadian I live on the border, When I cross in to Canada I bring my marriage license and wife because it's much faster. As a country that puts the welfare of it's citizens over foreigners the background check they do is very time consuming and extensive as it should be.

they want engineers, so having a degree would make it easier

move to Switzerland or europe


im also referring more as getting a work visa not becoming a citizen, for me personally, i.e permanent residence

i have dual nationality so moving to Europe isn't as difficult, thats me though, i have options....

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Not only that, only one of them also supported a insurrection and trying to claim it was a peaceful protest. Evidence doesn't get more damning when people are actively searching for Nancy Pelosi and shouting"kill mike pence"

and also having multiple extremist groups who had body armor, gas, which was thrown at the police, and a lot of other problems during January 6th

Yeah, because one singular riot that involved only a couple of deaths, destruction of property, minor looting and trespassing really can compare to thousands of riots with arson, murder, trespassing, destruction of property and looting. You do realize that the right thinks that each single riot from the left was as bad as the single riot from the rights ... and there's thousands of them. You're going to have hard time convincing anyone that isn't a hypocrite that thousands of riots should be dismissed while a singular one shouldn't be. Though, there's tons of hypocrites on this forum so you should get a few to sing your tune with you, but it's not like their opinions matter.

What? Thousands of riots? Yes, along with tens of thousands of peaceful protesting for BLM there were thousands of acts of violence (protesting turned violent is rioting). See here: https://acleddata.com/2021/02/05/us-crisis-monitor-releases-full-data-for-2020

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Do I honestly need to post videos for you of Republicans lying, cheating, stealing, and breaking the law? It's fine to have an opinion, but holy fuck. Hypocrite much? If you're going to criticize one side or the other, at least try to not look like a moron in the process.

The last time I checked conservatives were much more trust worthy then Liberals. Regardless, if you're a liar then I want nothing to do with you because anything you say could be made up therefor you're useless. That's why I've blocked like over 20 people on this forum. I have no desire to discuss anything with people that make shit up out of thin air as that would be counterproductive.

 

[Xzi]

The last time I checked conservatives were much more trust worthy then Liberals.

If by "trust worthy" you mean you can always trust 'em to be liars, cheaters, grifters, narcissists, and sociopaths, then sure.

(Most of the reich-wingers in this thread have me on ignore for calling out their supremacist ideology, and this is one of them.)

 

[Lacius]

Yeah, because one singular riot that involved only a couple of deaths, destruction of property, minor looting and trespassing really can compare to thousands of riots with arson, murder, trespassing, destruction of property and looting. You do realize that the right thinks that each single riot from the left was as bad as the single riot from the rights ... and there's thousands of them. You're going to have hard time convincing anyone that isn't a hypocrite that thousands of riots should be dismissed while a singular one shouldn't be. Though, there's tons of hypocrites on this forum so you should get a few to sing your tune with you, but it's not like their opinions matter.

What? Thousands of riots? Yes, along with tens of thousands of peaceful protesting for BLM there were thousands of acts of violence (protesting turned violent is rioting). See here: https://acleddata.com/2021/02/05/us-crisis-monitor-releases-full-data-for-2020

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The last time I checked conservatives were much more trust worthy then Liberals. Regardless, if you're a liar then I want nothing to do with you because anything you say could be made up therefor you're useless. That's why I've blocked like over 20 people on this forum. I have no desire to discuss anything with people that make shit up out of thin air as that would be counterproductive.

1. Nobody condones deaths that occurred during protests.
2. Pointing to protest deaths in response to the January 6 violence is whataboutism.
3. BLM doesn't condone protest deaths. It's a peaceful movement, with much of the violence being police-instigated.
4. BLM is in response to systemic racism and police violence against people of color. January 6 was a violent insurrection against the United States. They could not be more different.

 

[Deleted User]

1. Nobody condones deaths that occurred during protests.
2. Pointing to protest deaths in response to the January 6 violence is whataboutism.
3. BLM doesn't condone protest deaths. It's a peaceful movement, with much of the violence being police-instigated.
4. BLM is in response to systemic racism and police violence against people of color. January 6 was a violent insurrection against the United States. They could not be more different.

BLM also didn't try overthrowing an election. Unlike ya know... the January 6th riot.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

BLM also didn't try overthrowing an election. Unlike ya know... the January 6th riot.

No, they just killed people and burnt down businesses owned by minorities. That totally compares to a singular event of a few hundred people trespassing on Government property.

 

[Lacius]

No, they just killed people and burnt down businesses owned by minorities.

"BLM" didn't do this.