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When do leftists learn to collect their nonsense thoughts and post one time without the bot merging them? So damn childish.
Well I could end up double posting. Have everyone know I added to my argument, or I could retroactively edited into another previous message, and have everyone angry at me.
Take your pick.

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Yes peaceful. What you didn't see in the left wing media was the 100,000+ peaceful protesters who were in the capital. All you saw was the 300-400 who branched off and started to riot on their own. Hey, if the Liberals claim their hundreds of thousands of protests were "mostly peaceful" then it would be fair to point out that there were 100,000+ other people who didn't riot on the 6th. It was only a few hundred people who did.
False equivlency. Multiple white nationalist terrorists groups such as proudboys and others were present. they had body armor, they had guns, they had weapons, and they had gas. And many of those "protestors" which are closer to rioters, went beyond the barrier, already trespassing, many of them pushed officers down. And then others went inside the capital. with the intent to harm
 
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The numbers are what they are. Statistically insignificant doesn't get a new definition just so you can cobble together a sentiment.
If you can justify a thousand murders a year in your mind as "statistically insignificant," then you can do the same with millions of murders. You can do the same with the Holocaust. Time to grow up and realize that systemic problems don't cease to be problems just because they don't affect you personally.
 
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I should also add on that I'm not making up these "terrorists groups" FBI, department of homeland security had also designated them as such pre capital.
 
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If you can justify a thousand murders a year in your mind as "statistically insignificant," then you can do the same with millions of murders. You can do the same with the Holocaust. Time to grow up and realize that systemic problems don't cease to be problems just because they don't affect you personally.

you acting like you don't understand my point isn't helping yours, lmao.

But by all means, go ahead and wrench yourself to show how you think me pointing out your nonsense is the same as "justifying" murder
Do you....need....a dictionary?

Calculator and dictionary.....shoot me your address...I gotchu ;)
 
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False equivlency. Multiple white nationalist terrorists groups such as proudboys and others were present. they had body armor, they had guns, they had weapons, and they had gas. And many of those "protestors" which are closer to rioters, went beyond the barrier, already trespassing, many of them pushed officers down. And then others went inside the capital. with the intent to harm

If the intent to harm was the goal of the 300-400 rioters who broke off from the main 100,000+ people protesting then they failed their goal miserably. There's not any comparison you can make that would somehow justify the looting, arson, murder, trespassing and destruction of property that took place thousands of times by BLM and Antifa rioters when comparing it to a bunch of roughnecks that decided to trespass and take selfies just once. Though, this subject is off topic and I've said I that needs to be said about it. Have a good night.
 
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If the intent to harm was the goal of the 300-400 rioters who broke off from the main 100,000+ people protesting then they failed their goal miserably. There's not any comparison you can make that would somehow justify the looting, arson, murder, trespassing and destruction of property that took place thousands of times by BLM and Antifa rioters when comparing it to a bunch of roughnecks that decided to trespass and take selfies just once. Though, this subject is off topic and I've said I that needs to be said about it. Have a good night.
"I didn't kill the person, even though I was planning to kill them"
attempted murder, IS STILL THE INTENT TO KILL



"It can't be a coup. It failed." is your logic. Which is stupid, a failed coup is still a coup
 
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you acting like you don't understand my point isn't helping yours, lmao.
What point? That you can make numbers and statistics say whatever you want them to? I was already well aware of that. You might as well have gone even bigger and attempted to use the world population to make police murders look like even less of a problem.

It's pretty easy to just say, "yeah, I agree, murderers should be prosecuted and locked up, no matter their job." But nah let's just dance around for hours with these mental gymnastics of yours so that you don't have to come to some dark realizations about yourself and your morals/values.
 

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Considering the D.C. Capitol hosts rowdy demonstrations routinely to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people if you believe 3-500 people can breach the Capitol that easily you are a moron.

Either those in charge of the security need to be fired or it was a Cointelpro type operation that allowed them in.
 
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What point? That you can make numbers and statistics say whatever you want them to? I was already well aware of that. You might as well have gone even bigger and attempted to use the world population to make police murders look like even less of a problem.

It's pretty easy to just say, "yeah, I agree, murderers should be prosecuted and locked up, no matter their job." But nah let's just dance around for hours with these mental gymnastics of yours so that you don't have to come to some dark realizations about yourself and your morals/values.

I do think murderers should be prosecuted and locked up, no matter their job.
That was not the point of your meme.....which....with only mental calisthenics, actually, I refuted.

You basically can't build any point off your presupposition of bad cops aplenty, because you have up your sleeve, and have proffered, zero data to back it up. Just take the L, I'm sure sometimes you make a few good points.
 
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Considering the D.C. Capitol hosts rowdy demonstrations routinely to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people if you believe 3-500 people can breach the Capitol that easily you are a moron.
It was a planned attack.
Terrorists groups such as proudboys noted where the captial police was, there was several entrances, when they got overwhelmed at the front, the ones on the sides had to move their post. It wasn't 3-500 people. It was 3-500+ a croud of over 1,000 rioters forcing police to move around to prevent them to get in creating weak points in other areas. And further more trump delayed the national guard getting there for over 4 hours. Despite being asked hours earlier.
 
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I do think murderers should be prosecuted and locked up, no matter their job.
Well I'll be damned, was that so hard?

You basically can't build any point off your presupposition of bad cops aplenty, because you have up your sleeve, and have proffered, zero data to back it up.
You never disputed my claim of a thousand murders by cops annually, nor did you ever ask for a source. "Aplenty" is a subjective term, but taking a thousand bad cops per year off the streets would undoubtedly make a big difference, and quickly.
 
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Well I'll be damned, was that so hard?


You never disputed my claim of a thousand murders by cops annually, nor did you ever ask for a source. "Aplenty" is a subjective term, but taking a thousand bad cops per year off the streets would undoubtedly make a big difference, and quickly.


Clear as day I contested your murder numbers just a few posts prior XD
No point in discussing anything like this with a liar,
but even less point with someone who'll lie about something you can literally flip back a couple pages about.
Even if I ceded the number your asinine meme contained, 1000 instead of 200, which was generous to begin with, it wouldn't bring legitimacy to the post I originally responded to.
I didn't ask for the source, because of how evident it is that your go-to source is masturbatory self-righteous ignorance.
 

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Clear as day I contested your murder numbers just a few posts prior XD
Handwaving away 80% of the murders committed by police because you've got questionable morals is not the same as factually disputing the number I provided.

I didn't ask for the source, because of how evident it is that your go-to source is masturbatory self-righteous ignorance.
And you didn't provide a source of your own, because you know you'd have to turn to some partisan sensationalist bullshit to contradict me.
 
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The last time I checked conservatives were much more trust worthy then Liberals. Regardless, if you're a liar then I want nothing to do with you because anything you say could be made up therefor you're useless. That's why I've blocked like over 20 people on this forum. I have no desire to discuss anything with people that make shit up out of thin air as that would be counterproductive.

Again, hypocrite much? Conservatives are THE single largest group of compulsive hypocrites on the face of the planet. I just. I can't even believe what I just read. Go ahead and block me and stay in your little echo chamber full of denial to your own sides lies and shit made up completely out of thin air. You have accomplished nothing more than :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:.
 
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love how liberals fight for undocumented workers
they don't
but not towards providing citzenship.
they have
I'd advise talking with actual liberals, rather than talking points you heard from (insert news channel here)
you'd realize that none of them are arguing that illegal immigration is okay. However what you would fine is that
A. they understand the immigration system is unnecessarily broken, and breaks the original chain between united states and mexico
B. Which chain was that Mexican's would look for work here during the summer, primarily in farming and in the field work. And then return to mexico. But now that it's such a messy process, they choose to stay.
C. none of them vouch for open borders, what they often are vouching is a more efficient system, and multiple paths to citizenship.
Since simply put, there are matters below the united states that force people to move up here expediently, such as gangs actively looking to kill them. And then when the United States does not provide them safety, and the gang is getting closer. they are forced for their own lives to illegally cross over. So rather than immedately incarcerate them, and spit them out. Provide more options.

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"but who is going to do the jobs others dont want to do?" remember these are same people who started a civil war to keep slavery
also false.
there was a party swap. if you keep track of the democratic party, and pay attention to the map, you'd quickly notice what was the democratic party back then, changed into the republican party.
 

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they don't

they have
I'd advise talking with actual liberals, rather than talking points you heard from (insert news channel here)
you'd realize that none of them are arguing that illegal immigration is okay. However what you would fine is that
A. they understand the immigration system is unnecessarily broken, and breaks the original chain between united states and mexico
B. Which chain was that Mexican's would look for work here during the summer, primarily in farming and in the field work. And then return to mexico. But now that it's such a messy process, they choose to stay.
C. none of them vouch for open borders, what they often are vouching is a more efficient system, and multiple paths to citizenship.
Since simply put, there are matters below the united states that force people to move up here expediently, such as gangs actively looking to kill them. And then when the United States does not provide them safety, and the gang is getting closer. they are forced for their own lives to illegally cross over. So rather than immedately incarcerate them, and spit them out. Provide more options.

how cute, denial
 
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how cute, denial
well nothing I can do then. you already made up your mind. I just explained their stance, I'm not even a liberal myself.



No like seriously, if you look at my history, you'd realize I'd identify as anarcho communist. I've explicitly mentioned my position
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Liberals and I don't agree on much.
 
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