Covid-19 vaccine

[Alexander1970]

Here in Austria (as I predicted last year) the first "cautious" findings are being made with regard to "contagion". As with influenza....
It is already being said that in a few weeks the whole spook will be over..... and mandatory Vaccinations will "maybe" no longer be necessary for EVERYONE.(Depends on how long the "Mandatory Vaccination Law" will work...)

Spoiler: By the Way...

I've had Covid since Monday (PCR Test made Omicron last variant - CT value 24)



and I'm in Quarantine (no Symptomes,only a little "tired"..) until (longest) February 11th (except the official Test on Monday,February 7th is positive again,otherwise I am "Free Tested")



Thank God and my intact Immunesystem,for me,the Covid Madness is finally over and I can get finally to a normal Life for the next 6 Months - without Vaccination.

Stay well and stay positive to Life.

 

[Foxi4]

@RyDog I haven't been keeping up with the pandemic stuff as much lately, but are people really saying the vaccine is "deadly"? I don't think the adverse reactions are prevalent enough for anyone to draw such an extreme conclusion. The culture war going on in America is probably to blame for a lot of it, but there have been reasons in the past to be sceptical of vaccines so some of the hesitancy isn't without merit. Look up what happened with polio vaccines in Africa for example. Most of your other points have been discussed to death in the various threads here if you want to take a look.

The situation with polio in Africa is quite a bit different. The oral vaccine (OPV) used there contains a live sample of the polio virus. This kind of vaccine is called an “attenuated vaccine” - the virus sample administered via OPV has been severely weakened, to the point where it shouldn’t cause the disease (only about 3 cases per million), but it is still very much active. In most cases this doesn’t lead to the development of polio, however in rare cases (manufacturing defect, particularly weak immune system etc.) it can end up infecting the patient. OPV has been phased out in most countries for this reason, replaced with IPV (which is completely inactive), however the unique circumstances concerning distribution in Africa such as the harsh environment or the lack of trained personnel make it one of the only viable options there. The COVID vaccine contains no virus whatsoever - it contains an mRNA instruction for your body to build COVID’s spike proteins upon injection. You physically can’t catch COVID from a COVID shot, you can catch polio from the oral polio vaccine. One contains a complete, living sample of a virus, one does not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine

 

[RocaBOT]

"I want you to cite me if you say I said things" - tabzer, 2022
*cites said things to prove point of tabzer passing his own opinion for factual data*
"What's the problem?" - Also tabzer, 2022

Don't ask me to prove you said what you said if you're just going to try and divert it again with a "question" that doesn't need to be there. You're literally wasting everyone's time.

 

[RandomUser]

@RyDog I haven't been keeping up with the pandemic stuff as much lately, but are people really saying the vaccine is "deadly"? I don't think the adverse reactions are prevalent enough for anyone to draw such an extreme conclusion. The culture war going on in America is probably to blame for a lot of it, but there have been reasons in the past to be sceptical of vaccines so some of the hesitancy isn't without merit. Look up what happened with polio vaccines in Africa for example. Most of your other points have been discussed to death in the various threads here if you want to take a look.

This reminded me of the Tuskegee syphilis study, although it wasn't about vaccine.

 

[tabzer]

"I want you to cite me if you say I said things" - tabzer, 2022
*cites said things to prove point of tabzer passing his own opinion for factual data*
"What's the problem?" - Also tabzer, 2022

Don't ask me to prove you said what you said if you're just going to try and divert it again with a "question" that doesn't need to be there. You're literally wasting everyone's time.

You are wasting your own time. What do you want a source for? Do you find my disagreement with the world being "'better than ever' since the conception of covid vaccine" to be false or controversial? Just quoting me saying my opinion and statements about how I look at things doesn't tell me anything about what you want.

 

[subcon959]

The situation with polio in Africa is quite a bit different. The oral vaccine (OPV) used there contains a live sample of the polio virus. This kind of vaccine is called an “attenuated vaccine” - the virus sample administered via OPV has been severely weakened, to the point where it shouldn’t cause the disease (only about 3 cases per million), but it is still very much active. In most cases this doesn’t lead to the development of polio, however in rare cases (manufacturing defect, particularly weak immune system etc.) it can end up infecting the patient. OPV has been phased out in most countries for this reason, replaced with IPV (which is completely inactive), however the unique circumstances concerning distribution in Africa such as the harsh environment or the lack of trained personnel make it one of the only viable options there. The COVID vaccine contains no virus whatsoever - it contains an mRNA instruction for your body to build COVID’s spike proteins upon injection. You physically can’t catch COVID from a COVID shot, you can catch polio from the oral polio vaccine. One contains a complete, living sample of a virus, one does not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine

Yes but the type of people that end up becoming hesitant from that probably aren't going to look into it much further than the headline or opening paragraph, let alone research the different types of vaccines.

I'm sure the genuine hesitancy is only a small subset anyway, as I said the anti-vax thing seems to be largely political/cultural.

 

[Dakitten]

You are wasting your own time. What do you want a source for? Do you find my disagreement with the world being "'better than ever' since the conception of covid vaccine" to be false or controversial? Just quoting me saying my opinion and statements about how I look at things doesn't tell me anything about what you want.

People want a source for why you seem to believe you know the vaccine is bad, but they don't understand trolling I guess. Even roadkill would have budged by now, but stupid and crazy are lifestyle choices nowadays...

 

[tabzer]

People want a source for why you seem to believe you know the vaccine is bad, but they don't understand trolling I guess. Even roadkill would have budged by now, but stupid and crazy are lifestyle choices nowadays...

I'm not saying the vaccine is %100 bad. I'm saying that the the push for others to take it is reckless and overzealous. Claims that the vaccine related injuries "cannot be substantiated" instead of "conclusively not" is a way to give vaccines the benefit of the doubt when I don't owe it any. Considering with what is known about my current situation, I like my choice.

Also, it's been highly ineffective in ending Covid and with fulfilling political promises to end covid related restrictions. Goal-post shifting technology.

 

[subcon959]

Spoiler: By the Way...

I've had Covid since Monday (PCR Test made Omicron last variant - CT value 24)

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and I'm in Quarantine (no Symptomes,only a little "tired"..) until (longest) February 11th (except the official Test on Monday,February 7th is positive again,otherwise I am "Free Tested")

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Thank God and my intact Immunesystem,for me,the Covid Madness is finally over and I can get finally to a normal Life for the next 6 Months - without Vaccination.

Stay well and stay positive to Life.

Good luck mate! My son now has several friends in his class test positive so it's only a matter of time for us (since they no longer make the whole class quarantine).

 

[Dakitten]

I'm not saying the vaccine is %100 bad. I'm saying that the the push for others to take it is reckless and overzealous. Claims that the vaccine related injuries "cannot be substantiated" instead of "conclusively not" is a way to give vaccines the benefit of the doubt when I don't owe it any. Considering with what is known about my current situation, I like my choice.

Also, it's been highly ineffective in ending Covid and with fulfilling political promises to end covid related restrictions. Goal-post shifting technology.

See, here we go. VAERS is cute and all, but it is only a superficial data gathering source. If you want to follow the monies, the Conutermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) actually tracks vaccine complications that result in compensation. That being said, not a lot of cash cash cash coming out of there, so... Sorry, what is known about your current situation, again? What sources convinced you that vaccines are a bad idea? Most restrictions are sadly quite dead, so political promises have already been made and failed, no points there...

You seem like a dog barking at the dark, comrade. You know bad things exist, that corruption exists, but all you see is the scenario you want to see in your head. Yes, the vaccine isn't a cure, and it can't stop Covid on its own. Yes, some people in VERY rare circumstances can get injured by it. Yes, a certain political party has tied itself to the disease as a platform topic (since there isn't anything else to float off in right field) and there is a lot of pharma money in politics, but none of this actually applies to the simple reality of how to best handle resisting Covid. Herd Immunity might not be completely viable due to variations, but the more people get vaccinated, the harder it is to spread and continue to change. It doesn't really cost anything outside of your tax dollars in bigger countries, and you absolutely can get it twice and die from it so even if you've caught it before, vaccinating yourself is still the way to go. These are called facts, they've been repeated, verified, checked, repeated, verified, checked, and thrown your way for months now. If you've got something meaningful to counter with, cool, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

 

[NyaakoXD]

If you've got something meaningful to counter with, cool, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

And that's the sad thing. They actually don't have such evidence to back up their claims. They'll instead just double down on the conspiracy theories thinking it's some "AHA!" or "Gotcha!" moment. Thinking that posting news and videos from already well known conspiratorial sites (like banned.videos and all that) to try and "prove". It's a cycle of delusion for them. If it doesn't fit their views or agenda, they will just go back to harping about the same thing, but reword it differently. Or just completely ignore actual facts and data and double down on the conspiracies.

At this point, you're basically talking to a brick wall.

 

[RocaBOT]

"You're wasting your own time"
I'm not the one drowning the thread in false claims and diversions for almost 200 pages now

 

[tabzer]

See, here we go. VAERS is cute and all, but it is only a superficial data gathering source. If you want to follow the monies, the Conutermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) actually tracks vaccine complications that result in compensation. That being said, not a lot of cash cash cash coming out of there, so... Sorry, what is known about your current situation, again? What sources convinced you that vaccines are a bad idea? Most restrictions are sadly quite dead, so political promises have already been made and failed, no points there...

You seem like a dog barking at the dark, comrade. You know bad things exist, that corruption exists, but all you see is the scenario you want to see in your head. Yes, the vaccine isn't a cure, and it can't stop Covid on its own. Yes, some people in VERY rare circumstances can get injured by it. Yes, a certain political party has tied itself to the disease as a platform topic (since there isn't anything else to float off in right field) and there is a lot of pharma money in politics, but none of this actually applies to the simple reality of how to best handle resisting Covid. Herd Immunity might not be completely viable due to variations, but the more people get vaccinated, the harder it is to spread and continue to change. It doesn't really cost anything outside of your tax dollars in bigger countries, and you absolutely can get it twice and die from it so even if you've caught it before, vaccinating yourself is still the way to go. These are called facts, they've been repeated, verified, checked, repeated, verified, checked, and thrown your way for months now. If you've got something meaningful to counter with, cool, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

The claims that vaccines are safe merits that cases like these are conclusive:

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20211119/p2a/00m/0na/042000c

It's always been that way too. Like with claims of vaccines contributing to autism, the HPV vaccine which caused Japan to become reluctant about vaccine related promises. "Correlation does not imply causation." There is a whole list on the CDC's website of vaccines which had issues, but they were able to deflect liability from manufacturers with this one simple trick. There was always a divide about this topic and it won't go away until the autism, these deaths, and other correlations do have conclusive cause. Until then, it could be the vaccine, it could be not the vaccine. The proposition that the vaccine is going to save the world if everybody takes them seems more like a declaration of war than a genuine attempt to fix anything.

Here's a fact check about the claim that those without a booster after 3 months suffer levels of immunity strength less than being unvaccinated. The reality appears that it was that the vaccinated were spreading the variant at much faster levels, possibly due to the belief that they were protected.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-immunesystem-covid19-vaccines-idUSL1N2TE17B

The idea of throwing more vaccine at new variants doesn't seem sustainable:

https://www.voanews.com/a/eu-drug-r...t-overuse-of-covid-booster-shots/6395174.html

Anyway, if Lacius considers himself "healthy" even when he claims to get Covid 3x AND 3x vaccine doses, I'm not wholly moved by his attempt to paint grim pictures. I think you maybe contributing to more placebo related injury for those who live by your measure and application of statistics.

 

[Mexicangamer]

So I read a few pages of this topic and it was noticeable the lack of information and the feeling of citizenship of those who have not yet taken the vaccine. First of all, all vaccines ever made were tested by all health entities in the world before they were made available to us, secondly if you don't take them you are putting other lives at risk and overloading hospitals because you will have a more likely to develop severe cases compared to those who are already vaccinated

 

[Glyptofane]

The claims that vaccines are safe merits that cases like these are conclusive:

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20211119/p2a/00m/0na/042000c

It's always been that way too. Like with claims of vaccines contributing to autism, the HPV vaccine which caused Japan to become reluctant about vaccine related promises. "Correlation does not imply causation." There is a whole list on the CDC's website of vaccines which had issues, but they were able to deflect liability from manufacturers with this one simple trick. There was always a divide about this topic and it won't go away until the autism, these deaths, and other correlations do have conclusive cause. Until then, it could be the vaccine, it could be not the vaccine. The proposition that the vaccine is going to save the world if everybody takes them seems more like a declaration of war than a genuine attempt to fix anything.

Here's a fact check about the claim that those without a booster after 3 months suffer levels of immunity strength less than being unvaccinated. The reality appears that it was that the vaccinated were spreading the variant at much faster levels, possibly due to the belief that they were protected.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-immunesystem-covid19-vaccines-idUSL1N2TE17B

The idea of throwing more vaccine at new variants doesn't seem sustainable:

https://www.voanews.com/a/eu-drug-r...t-overuse-of-covid-booster-shots/6395174.html

Anyway, if Lacius considers himself "healthy" even when he claims to get Covid 3x AND 3x vaccine doses, I'm not wholly moved by his attempt to paint grim pictures. I think you maybe contributing to more placebo related injury for those who live by your measure and application of statistics.

Nobody anywhere is liable for any of these COVID vaccines. That alone should be a good enough reason for anyone to reject them.

No person who is serious about health is going to repeatedly inject themselves with a bunch of "medicine" they don't need. The available data begins to suggest they've all given themselves subclinical heart disease and some form and degree of AIDS depending on the number of boosters at the very least. I expect there could be a bunch of fertility issues and spike in cancers in the coming years as well.

It truly is pitiable that they can't tell the difference between propaganda/advertising and actual science, but it's too late for the most of these people anyway. Maybe some of them could recover enough to live out normal enough lives if they unplug now and stop taking boosters. I only know that it won't be me any my family, so good luck to everyone else.

 

[PagaN]

f00king poison

 

[djpannda]

It truly is pitiable that they can't tell the difference between propaganda/advertising and actual science, but it's too late for the most of these people anyway.

Lolol I literally peed myself from laughing
Lol yup the sovereign fake vaccine police (who drink his own piss) vs 99% of the medical field …

 

[djpannda]

No person who is serious about health is going to repeatedly inject themselves with a bunch of "medicine" they don't need.

the definition of a preventive medicine ..
man I can wait to hear your stance against POLIO MMR VARICELLA Menigcocoal and TDAp vaccine which bout 99% of all kids in ANY SCHOOL (private or public ) need ....

 

[grabman]

Gosh Degary is the commonly cited case. Injected during the trials. Crippled eats through a tube now.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/2...bing-daughters-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/

I mean stuff is going to happen with a rapid mass roll out. What bothers me about her is she is blacklisted (prob why ya'll don't know about her) and they wrote her up as a stomach ache? Stomach ache huh?

Look I got mandated and vaccinated. Forget about whether it works. Should that really be a thing? Either take this or get fired? i honestly do hope it helps but logically speaking we were told it would prevent infection and well the virus ended up mutating and now it no longer prevents infection. Is all this truly working overall? Or is it causing the virus (which frankly i feel is a bioweapon) to just mutate more! Perhaps the traditional 2 to 7 year typical time frame was wiser than people thought.

I came across this odd case of swimmer who can no longer hold his breathe as long after vaccine



Florian Dagoury? I mean I don't know him personally or anything...

There is also this other guy on twitter I ran into sound engineer. Can no longer hear certain frequencies. shame for that fellow...

id link you to his tweet but i can't be bothered here take this!

https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/can-the-covid-19-vaccine-lead-to-hearing-issues

look facts are a hard thing to look at and consider. This is a complicated issue and it requires HONEST debate. Now is something killing people? Yup. Is it a virus in the traditional sense? Methinks not. I would call it a bioweapon. But do I put it past these people to rush a vaccine to market and profit even if it is killing people? Nope. big fat nope. Here's about an hour of athletes dying from the jabs...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XGajIY6Q8qzX/

Look I think it is important to consider what we know for sure. This is affecting animals. Why? I dunno. Um look at the last wave. THE WAVES ARE GETTING BIGGER AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT WORKING PEOPLE. Look at the death counts. Listen there comes a point where you start losing the brains of our society and things really can start falling apart here if we are not careful. Should you trust television? Nope. That is a big fat no. We have historical precedents here. One mentioned Tuskegee. Yes yes. But there was also a botched vaccine rollout in the 70's and read a book called "Dr. Mary's Monkey"for an amazing story about what is known as SV40 which is essentially a dormant cancer causing gene introduced into the human genome by bad polio vaccine batches. THEY HAVE SCREWED US BEFORE. This is a major point.

Anywho I suspect many will die. Whether they get vaccinated or not. To me it is obvious it is about the mask. They want to do away with photo id's and chip the global population. That is what this is pretense for frankly.

I found these photos of a vaccinated fellows embalming. btw. I will leave them here. Shame they had a great deal of problems with his blood for some reason. Seemed to be clotting...

 

[djpannda]

Gosh Degary is the commonly cited case. Injected during the trials. Crippled eats through a tube now.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/2...bing-daughters-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/

I mean stuff is going to happen with a rapid mass roll out. What bothers me about her is she is blacklisted (prob why ya'll don't know about her) and they wrote her up as a stomach ache? Stomach ache huh?

Look I got mandated and vaccinated. Forget about whether it works. Should that really be a thing? Either take this or get fired? i honestly do hope it helps but logically speaking we were told it would prevent infection and well the virus ended up mutating and now it no longer prevents infection. Is all this truly working overall? Or is it causing the virus (which frankly i feel is a bioweapon) to just mutate more! Perhaps the traditional 2 to 7 year typical time frame was wiser than people thought.

I came across this odd case of swimmer who can no longer hold his breathe as long after vaccine



Florian Dagoury? I mean I don't know him personally or anything...

There is also this other guy on twitter I ran into sound engineer. Can no longer hear certain frequencies. shame for that fellow...

id link you to his tweet but i can't be bothered here take this!

https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/can-the-covid-19-vaccine-lead-to-hearing-issues

look facts are a hard thing to look at and consider. This is a complicated issue and it requires HONEST debate. Now is something killing people? Yup. Is it a virus in the traditional sense? Methinks not. I would call it a bioweapon. But do I put it past these people to rush a vaccine to market and profit even if it is killing people? Nope. big fat nope. Here's about an hour of athletes dying from the jabs...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XGajIY6Q8qzX/

Look I think it is important to consider what we know for sure. This is affecting animals. Why? I dunno. Um look at the last wave. THE WAVES ARE GETTING BIGGER AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT WORKING PEOPLE. Look at the death counts. Listen there comes a point where you start losing the brains of our society and things really can start falling apart here if we are not careful. Should you trust television? Nope. That is a big fat no. We have historical precedents here. One mentioned Tuskegee. Yes yes. But there was also a botched vaccine rollout in the 70's and read a book called "Dr. Mary's Monkey"for an amazing story about what is known as SV40 which is essentially a dormant cancer causing gene introduced into the human genome by bad polio vaccine batches. THEY HAVE SCREWED US BEFORE. This is a major point.

Anywho I suspect many will die. Whether they get vaccinated or not. To me it is obvious it is about the mask. They want to do away with photo id's and chip the global population. That is what this is pretense for frankly.

I found these photos of a vaccinated fellows embalming. btw. I will leave them here. Shame they had a great deal of problems with his blood for some reason. Seemed to be clotting...

cool Random pic of blood (edit: sorry, random dark liquid) with no context.....
and NICE, links of *** NON-UNBIAS """NEWS??"" the Federalist and Bitchute...
TOTALLY on the up to up