Do you feel the USA is better now than it was 22 years ago?

[Deleted member 586536]

Except individual rights are not being taken.

"She would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child,”
Jim Bopp

One of the major right to life laywers who also drafted many of the current anti abortion bills within the Republican party.

“Unless her life was at danger, there is no exception for rape,” Bopp

You should be disgusted with yourself, and realize that your party didn't care about States rights. What it really cared about was control.
Rights were taken away. And only could happen if supreme court over ruled roe v wade.
There is no fucking benifits to that.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Tell you what, since I'm bored, I challenge @TraderPatTX to a debate on LGBTQ+ issues. Formatted with MDD's style; opening statements back and forth, and then questions from spectators. No bloodsports (unless you want to do that, but you do *not* want to do bloodsports with me lmao) just data and information. We can do this in discord or somewhere else that we agree on if you prefer. I want a voiced debate, no pansy ass text shit.

So the question is.

Are you man enough?

 

[KingVamp]

"Right to life". Except you guys don't seem to care at all about all the life lost due to poor healthcare and mass shootings.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

"Right to life". Except you guys don't seem to care at all about all the life lost due to poor healthcare and mass shootings.

Didn't Idaho GOP just vote to always preserve the foetus even if it is a life risk for the woman? As I keep saying, guns have more rights than women in the USA,

 

[mrdude]

You're part of the problem.

Said everyone that's ever tried to push an agenda that others disagreed with.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Just because you don't offer the best for the most capable doesn't mean you're inflicting harm, it just means you're counting on their ability to procure resources and training to keep pushing them forward while focusing on those who may need more assistance.

So if a more capable woman loses her position to less qualified man due to state pressure, the woman was not we are inflicting harm on her, we are just pushing her forward.

Hyper-individualism is a bit of a curse, and exceptional people will always find a way to be exceptional and their contributions should of course be celebrated, but it isn't going to end the world if those celebrations are toned down a bit

Nobody needs your celebrations. Racism in the selection process is unfair. We don´t make the NBA 4% Asian because they need more representation. If an African-American cannot play in the NBA because of this form of racism, I`m sure he would understand and "still be motivated to do their best" (as you put it).

even Asian Americans aren't properly represented in the highest wealth pools, so obviously skill and success aren't completely hand in hand now.

I don´t have the numbers but I would be surprised if they didn´t make up at least 4%. Since you made the claim, you should provide the numbers. (Though I am not in favor of equating skill and success)


BTW I´m wondering what your step-siblings think about this topic. More and more young Asians Americans have found out that you need to march with BLM etc in order to gain access to high society. They support the oppression of their own group for personal gain.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Nobody ever said all leftists were good. That being said, Hillary did win the popular vote, Trump just won the undemocratic and very outdated electoral college. Yay swing states.


I was talking about how people can love others and long for change and gave the Fox news bit as an example. I'm not sure what you're even talking about here, I couldn't care less about corporate news but you seem to be trying to use some sarcasm while lumping them in at the same time? Confusing stuff.


And here we have the religious nonsense conservative bingo! Mark your cards, folks!

I can't say I'm overly surprised you can't empathize with women suffering from pain and distress from even regular pregnancies, let alone exceptional and abnormal ones, and you'd be more focused on the potential for a life form to emerge over the safety and well being of the gender you can't relate to, but at least this clears up any concern that you might not be a scumbag!


You've kinda been the primary slinger of insults at folk, and whataboutism didn't occur in my paragraph? I covered how the founders took two different sides regarding federal power and reached a compromise while yielding the highest office to a Federalist, how Obama won the popular vote, and how people can love people who need to change to better their lives. There was no projection nor whataboutism at all. Seriously, you're off the script, comrade. Please do yourself a favor and touch some grass, you've been down too long.

Every single president in history has been elected by the Electoral College. And yes, it is undemocratic because the Founders did that on purpose. They know what happens with pure democracies. Apparently, you don't. Maybe you should go read some books on the subject.

The left always uses Fox News as some kind of boogeyman not realizing they are part of the same corporate media pushing the same fake news.

Never mentioned religion, but it's the only argument you people have even though the right to life is the most important natural right we have. You can't debate that so you bring in religion every single time. You ain't the first to do this and you won't be the last. It just shows why the left is so angry about the Dobbs decision. You really can't debate your position and now you are forced to do.

Stop talking about pregnancy like it's some kind of disease.

Telling strangers to seek help is not a compliment. And you are no doctor, so you are unqualified to make those diagnoses. Why do leftists on this forum keep saying that people like me are raging and that we are down? What do we have to be mad at? It is people like you still whining about the Electoral College, the Dobbs decision, the fact we only have 2 senators per state, Fox News, and whatever else you people continuously whine about because you don't understand our form of government and you don't understand what the Founders meant when they wrote the Constitution. I guarantee if you read more and commented less, you'd be a lot less angry on here because you would be able to understand these concepts that seem to be eluding you. So, while I go touch some grass, you should hit the library. Meet you back here later, comrade.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Tell you what, since I'm bored, I challenge @TraderPatTX to a debate on LGBTQ+ issues. Formatted with MDD's style; opening statements back and forth, and then questions from spectators. No bloodsports (unless you want to do that, but you do *not* want to do bloodsports with me lmao) just data and information. We can do this in discord or somewhere else that we agree on if you prefer. I want a voiced debate, no pansy ass text shit.

So the question is.

Are you man enough?

May I suggest the youtube channel "modern-day debate"?

 

[TraderPatTX]

Tell you what, since I'm bored, I challenge @TraderPatTX to a debate on LGBTQ+ issues. Formatted with MDD's style; opening statements back and forth, and then questions from spectators. No bloodsports (unless you want to do that, but you do *not* want to do bloodsports with me lmao) just data and information. We can do this in discord or somewhere else that we agree on if you prefer. I want a voiced debate, no pansy ass text shit.

So the question is.

Are you man enough?

Why do you assume my gender, bigot? See, you've already failed the debate before it's started.

 

[TraderPatTX]

"Right to life". Except you guys don't seem to care at all about all the life lost due to poor healthcare and mass shootings.

A mass shooting was just prevented over the weekend in a mall outside of Indianapolis by a good guy with a gun. If Indiana had the gun laws you fantasize about, dozens would have died there. So your gotcha doesn't hold water because you refuse to read the news to know what is going on around you. In the future, read more, comment less and and you won't make such dumb comments.

As for your comment about healthcare... once we stop being the world's policeman and sending billions to Ukraine, then we can talk about paying for healthcare. You have to make a decision there. What's more important?

 

[alt_Human]

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Ruh oh. Someone woke up triggered, again. Do you enjoy being incredibly angry the first thing when you wake up every day? I can't believe that's a healthy thing mentally or physically.

Not going to comment on the majority of flat out lies you're telling, again, but I will comment on your continual "more intelligent than you" attitude. Always acting towards others like you have some super Google and reading skills that are unparalled to anyone that disagrees with you. Well. Here's some more actual facts for you because you're full of shit as usual:

Regarding the comment to @Dakitten, "I guarantee if you read more and commented less, you'd be a lot less angry on here because you would be able to understand these concepts that seem to be eluding you".

TraderPAtTX:
Joined: Jun 24, 2022 Messages: 306

DaKitten:
Joined: Jul 18, 2021 Messages: 372

So while you just might be THE best Googler in the world with your search engine super sluthing skills, it seems your reading, fact checking, and math are all pure shit. I guess you're pretty good at deplorable tactics too. Things like blaming others for the exact things you're doing yourself. Try to keep up, lil fella. MIght want to fact check next time before making yourself look stupid in public, again.

A mass shooting was just prevented over the weekend in a mall outside of Indianapolis by a good guy with a gun. If Indiana had the gun laws you fantasize about, dozens would have died there. So your gotcha doesn't hold water because you refuse to read the news to know what is going on around you. In the future, read more, comment less and and you won't make such dumb comments.

As for your comment about healthcare... once we stop being the world's policeman and sending billions to Ukraine, then we can talk about paying for healthcare. You have to make a decision there. What's more important?

More flat out lies from you. 1. A mass shooting was 100% NOT prevented. Fact. There's nothing to even debate. You're wrong. Again. 2. Your stupid shit about "If Indiana had the gun laws you fantasize about, dozens would have died there." is nothing but complete whataboutism. Another deplorable tactic you seem to be good at. Not to mention you're acting like the armed citizen whipped out an AR-15 to take care of the guy. No ones trying to disarm everyone from legally carrying a pistol. Just more fake deplorable news from you, along with more rants of "I'm more intelligent than you! You need to Google and read more!!!" LMFAO! Apparently you forgot to read what the definition of a mass shooting is, and also forgot to read the actual article regarding the shooting that would have shown you that it was in fact a mass shooting. Yet here you are with "A mass shooting was prevented" right before "In the future, read more, comment less and and you won't make such dumb comments."

You're a liar and a hypocrite.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

You're a liar and a hypocrite.

Pretty much sums up the issue, and it exposes all this pretentious nonsense about wanting to engage in good faith.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Why do you assume my gender, bigot? See, you've already failed the debate before it's started.

Cold Feet Trader backs out again! Typical limp right!!

 

[KingVamp]

A mass shooting was just prevented over the weekend in a mall outside of Indianapolis by a good guy with a gun. If Indiana had the gun laws you fantasize about, dozens would have died there. So your gotcha doesn't hold water because you refuse to read the news to know what is going on around you. In the future, read more, comment less and and you won't make such dumb comments.

Great. Still way more mass shootings than any other first world country.

As for your comment about healthcare... once we stop being the world's policeman and sending billions to Ukraine, then we can talk about paying for healthcare. You have to make a decision there. What's more important?

False dilemma.

Also, "suddenly" not caring about the "right to life", when it comes to the Ukrainians.

 

[LainaGabranth]

May I suggest the youtube channel "modern-day debate"?

MDD sucks too much as a platform. James lets people talk too much, and lets people like DarthDawkins and Kent Hovind gishgallop the entire time. They pander too hard to the Flat Earth community by getting on barely-verbal people like Flat Earth Aussie who are borderline schizophrenic, and I think most offensive of all, every time they get someone to talk about world history, they keep picking psychotic tankies to talk about the history of Eastern Europe, as if they'd ever do it justice.

So no. It's a dogshit platform ran by dogshit people, I don't think it's worth looking at.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

One group wants to decentralize power back to the states and just wants to be left alone and another group wants to centralize power in the federal government to rule over the people. The left is so brainwashed, they advocate for an authoritarian central government while calling everybody they disagree with fascist. The cognitive dissonance with the left grows stronger by the day. Communism is a helluva drug.

Except the left constantly forgets or is unaware that Fascism was created by the left. I know my source will be attacked, that's a given. Anything that shines a light on the liberals lies will be attacked.

https://www.prageru.com/video/is-fascism-right-or-left

Maybe they will drop the bias and learn something for once? Probably not though.

 

[Delerious]

Technologically, mixed - Better in that more technologies are available to us. Worse in that such technologies are also used to exploit us - the big one being AI.

Society, worse - Given how far people on the extreme ends of each political aisle keep perpetuating the culture war. Also, too many people do their talking over a phone rather than in-person. Hell, even dating is done over an app these days!

Economically, worse - You need only look at how ground-level employees are treated and how high rent is to understand that something isn't right. Also, the lack of redundancy in some of our most crucial supplies and over-reliance on globalization have fucked up our supply chain. Though that can be said about most other countries as well, the U.S. is a leading factor in this.

Government, worse - Neocons and neolibs had already been running our government in the 2000s, and they are still running it today. Washington DC has become so infested with political elite culture that the people there can't even find a window to look outside.

Entertainment, mixed - More and better games are out, but the gaming industry has also gone down a dark road with too many companies resorting to scummy monetization practices and not even trying to make a decent game Meanwhile, Hollywood has resorted to remakes, reboots, since they can't think of anything original anymore, so they overspend on special effects, hoping that the flashiness can distract you from their shit story-writing when they do make anything new. They also like to run older, beloved movies or comic book series into the ground.

Healthcare, mixed - Good in that we have made significant advances in medicine and medical technologies, but bad in that we have given WAY too much power to insurance companies and big pharma.

Overall, I would ultimately say that it's worse, but this is only my own opinion. I'm sure my betters can make arguments for or against my points.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Except the left constantly forgets or is unaware that Fascism was created by the left.

Historically false since both Mussolini, Hitler and pretty much any other fascisr dictator readily admitted they had nothing to do with socialism or left wing ideologies.

Liar.

 

[Benja81]

Said everyone that's ever tried to push an agenda that others disagreed with.

lol my agenda is "stop blaming eachother" nice try though.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

MDD sucks too much as a platform. James lets people talk too much, and lets people like DarthDawkins and Kent Hovind gishgallop the entire time. They pander too hard to the Flat Earth community by getting on barely-verbal people like Flat Earth Aussie who are borderline schizophrenic, and I think most offensive of all, every time they get someone to talk about world history, they keep picking psychotic tankies to talk about the history of Eastern Europe, as if they'd ever do it justice.

So no. It's a dogshit platform ran by dogshit people, I don't think it's worth looking at.

You´d have a bigger audience than on discord.
What does it matter for your debate if it is also used for bad debates?
If you only want to go on a platform you like, your opponent could disagree for the same reason.
The moderation is minimal (as you have alluded to) and not biased. Isn´t that all you can ask for since you challenged sb to a debate?
Sounds like "Hey, let´s have a boxing match, you coward! But the referee better like my outfit or I am not doing it!"