America may not be the greatest country on earth.

[SG854]

There's not much great about America, that's hard to disagree, regarding humans... humans are really complex, self-aware and self-destructive, humans are probably the only complex enough species that can keep self-destructing while being completely aware of it and intentionally avoiding to change course.

Humans are aware. But don't change because either they don't want to put the work in, or don't want to change their routine habits. Try to get anyone to change how they do things. It's always a struggle to get them to change.

Humans suck at long term planning. They only make changes under situations where they are forced to. Where an immediate danger is really close. But they usually react when it's too late. Humans are bad at feeling the pressure (the pressures that initiate motivations of change) of long term danger even if they are aware of it.

 

[Deleted member 608654]

Humans are aware. But don't change because either they don't want to put the work in, or don't want to change their routine habits. Try to get anyone to change how they do things. It's always a struggle to get them to change.

Humans suck at long term planning. They only make changes under situations where they are forced to. Where an immediate danger is really close. But they usually react when it's too late. Humans are bad at feeling the pressure (the pressures that initiate motivations of change) of long term danger even if they are aware of it.

That's when people like Ferdinand Piech and Lee Kuan Yew come in.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Capitalism makes all countries suck.

 

[CraddaPoosta]

I am a huge fan of New Zealand, but am perfectly willing to admit that it's because of Viva La Dirt League.

I imagine the whole country is as awesome as they are.

 

[mrdude]

I am a huge fan of New Zealand, but am perfectly willing to admit that it's because of Viva La Dirt League.

I imagine the whole country is as awesome as they are.

New zealand - it's basically 2 big islands and 700+ smaller islands. Nice scenery, lots of volcanoes, mad people and a WOKE Dictator as a PM. Still I've never been there but a couple of my friends emigrated there and like it, so go figure.

 

[CraddaPoosta]

New zealand - it's basically 2 big islands and 700+ smaller islands. Nice scenery, lots of volcanoes, mad people and a WOKE Dictator as a PM. Still I've never been there but a couple of my friends emigrated there and like it, so go figure.

I've quite literally looked into emigrating there from America. I don't know any Kiwis, but from everything I have seen (not just VLDL), New Zealand is like the best parts of America, Australia and the UK, all rolled into one.

It's just incredibly hard to become a permanent resident there unless you're pretty rich or have your own business.

#lifegoal

 

[mrdude]

I've quite literally looked into emigrating there from America. I don't know any Kiwis, but from everything I have seen (not just VLDL), New Zealand is like the best parts of America, Australia and the UK, all rolled into one.

It's just incredibly hard to become a permanent resident there unless you're pretty rich or have your own business.

#lifegoal

It's not too bad if you're from UK, although I am not sure about USA requirements. Do you have the correct skills?

https://skillshortages.immigration.govt.nz/assets/uploads/long-term-skill-shortage-list.pdf

I'm an Electrical and Mechanical Engineer so have the correct skills, however I am happy living in Scotland as I live in the country, 5 minutes from the sea and live between 3 cities that are each only about 20 miles from me. I love the countryside and there's some beautifull scenery and mountain ranges not too far from me, also I own my own house etc and have lots of family here so I would never move. However if I ever did, USA (southern east area), Austrailia or NZ would be in my top 5 places to live. No 1 would be Bavaria in Germany, I've been there loads of times to go Skiing in the winter and visited in the summer a few times, the people are lovely and the scenery is breathtaking. It's a pity it's not near the sea but if does have some nice lakes.

 

[Deleted member 608654]

I've quite literally looked into emigrating there from America. I don't know any Kiwis, but from everything I have seen (not just VLDL), New Zealand is like the best parts of America, Australia and the UK, all rolled into one.

It's just incredibly hard to become a permanent resident there unless you're pretty rich or have your own business.

#lifegoal

Still going to be expensive there, remote, houses have little insulation for winter. Small population.

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It's not too bad if you're from UK, although I am not sure about USA requirements. Do you have the correct skills?

https://skillshortages.immigration.govt.nz/assets/uploads/long-term-skill-shortage-list.pdf

I'm an Electrical and Mechanical Engineer so have the correct skills, however I am happy living in Scotland as I live in the country, 5 minutes from the sea and live between 3 cities that are each only about 20 miles from me. I love the countryside and there's some beautifull scenery and mountain ranges not too far from me, also I own my own house etc and have lots of family here so I would never move. However if I ever did, USA (southern east area), Austrailia or NZ would be in my top 5 places to live. No 1 would be Bavaria in Germany, I've been there loads of times to go Skiing in the winter and visited in the summer a few times, the people are lovely and the scenery is breathtaking. It's a pity it's not near the sea but if does have some nice lakes.

Quietly wishes for cheap supersonic air travel.

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Humans are aware. But don't change because either they don't want to put the work in, or don't want to change their routine habits. Try to get anyone to change how they do things. It's always a struggle to get them to change.

Humans suck at long term planning. They only make changes under situations where they are forced to. Where an immediate danger is really close. But they usually react when it's too late. Humans are bad at feeling the pressure (the pressures that initiate motivations of change) of long term danger even if they are aware of it.

Then why are they so bad at planning?

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Capitalism makes all countries suck.

Ethical capitalism exists, see costco.

 

[LovelyDumpling]

Would it be cool if the entire world operated under one banner and got along and we could go anywhere we pleased and solved the world's problems more effectively? Yeah, for real.

It sadly isn't going to happen though. At the very least, not peacefully.

People have different ideas of how the world should work and getting billions of people to agree on that is virtually impossible. Even within our own country we are incredibly polarized, and that's nothing like trying to tell other world leaders that we're going to do things our way now.

And just letting every country do things their own way but still be part of the same conglomerate where people could travel between nations as freely as they wish doesn't really work when some people's idea of the way the world should run is to treat women as second-class citizens or to execute people for being LGBT. And then think that we're the evil ones for letting them be free.

The world is fractured because human nature is fractured.

I do wonder how that'd hold up in say, an intergalactic civilization with alien races and the like. Would we finally unite Earth under one banner, or would we still be so fractured? I honestly imagine the latter, but I've also begun to doubt the existence of alien civilization anyway.

I suppose the only real way I can think of of "defracturing" the Earth (or at least making it less fractured) is... cultural genocide? If we were dominated by some completely overwhelming, unstoppable force that we couldn't dream of rebelling against and they enforced a specific culture and way of life on the entire planet for decades or centuries until everything we used to know and love became forgotten by time. And even that seems temporary at most.

Also, not advocating for that to be clear. Probably better to keep things as they are.

 

[Deleted member 608654]

@LovelyDumpling Yes, Human nature is fractured, but human nature can change. There just needs to be a push.

 

[kenlee168]

Civil wars is it's her downfall.