Review CBHC vs Tiramisu

[antgame11]

I have tried out both Tiramisu and CBHC, this is my opinion on them

Tiramisu:
Pros:
Quick Start
Nice UI
Cons:
Mocha CFW
HB Channel doesnt work

CBHC:
Pros:
HB Channel does work
No Mocha CFW
Cons:
Ugly UI
You need to buy a ds game

CBHC Wins imo because of the HB Channel

 

[Lostbhoy]

Not that it's a competition anyway but you have to remember Tiramisu is still quite early and leading to a bigger picture with Aroma. And it's free! A winner moving forward when the eshop closes next year.

Personally, I'm still on cbhc and if it ain't broke..... However that may change once Aroma comes along.

 

[MikaDubbz]

CBHC:
Pros:
HB Channel does work

CBHC Wins imo because of the HB Channel

You can easily get the homebrew channel to work again in Tiramisu by deleting 50_hbl_installer.rpx inside sd:/wiiu/environments/tiramisu/modules/setup

You do lose Homebrew launching when you launch the Mii channel when you do it this way, but it works great all the same (I never preferred this alternate Mii channel way to launch the homebrew channel anyway, not sure why they push it with Tiramisu). This is what I do, and as such I much prefer Tiramisu, as it does all the good of CBHC without having to pay for a DS title, and you get the quick launch menu on startup again too, and yes you still get to keep the proper Homebrew Channel this way.

 

[Deleted member 42501]

Whats the Mocha aspect mean and how does it differ in actual usage?

 

[MikaDubbz]

Whats the Mocha aspect mean and how does it differ in actual usage?

There really is nothing wrong with Mocha, you'll be hard pressed to find something that Tiramisu can't do in it's CFW that CBHC can in it's CFW. Frankly, I'm not sure there is a single thing the Mocha environment of TIramisu can't do that the Haxchi environment of CBHC can.

 

[Deleted member 571007]

You can easily get the homebrew channel to work again in Tiramisu by deleting 50_hbl_installer.rpx inside sd:/wiiu/environments/tiramisu/modules/setup

You do lose Homebrew launching when you launch the Mii channel when you do it this way, but it works great all the same (I never preferred this alternate way to launch the homebrew channel anyway, not sure why they push it with Tiramisu).

I actually did this a while back, and for some insight as to why (for me anyway) I prefer the HBC over Mii Maker launching is specifically because of WUP Installer. Using it in HBL via MiiMaker it's surprisingly unstable no matter which version you use whether it be OG, Y-Mod or GX2. My preferred choice is the original Y-Mod though. Anyways after starting an install and finishing one it does this half re-load of Mii Maker before it goes back to the WUP Installer menu which quite frequently causes crashes, switching to HBC however changed this. I do know that there is an RPX forwarder for GX2 but like I said I prefer not to use it, idk why but it's just a weird preference of mine.

 

[antgame11]

There really is nothing wrong with Mocha, you'll be hard pressed to find something that Tiramisu can't do in it's CFW that CBHC can in it's CFW. Frankly, I'm not sure there is a single thing the Mocha environment of TIramisu can't do that the Haxchi environment of CBHC can.

can you check your messages mikadubbz I messaged you

 

[Deleted member 571007]

can you check your messages mikadubbz I messaged you

If you messaged him I'm quite sure he would have gotten a notification from it so also telling him here would accomplish the same thing as before, a notification..

 

[antgame11]

If you messaged him I'm quite sure he would have gotten a notification from it so also telling him here would accomplish the same thing as before, a notification..

also I like your minecraft modding tools and stuff they are cool

do you happen to have a error code skin?

 

[Deleted member 571007]

also I like your minecraft modding tools and stuff they are cool

do you happen to have a error code skin?

Yes I do actually, but it would be off-topic to the actual thread. If you'd like to contact me for Minecraft modding questions / help / codes tools or whatever contact me via DMs or instagram:

korozin_alt

 

[MikaDubbz]

can you check your messages mikadubbz I messaged you

I mean you say you message me... yet I got nothing from you

 

[antgame11]

I mean you say you message me... yet I got nothing from you

I sent it on the chat

 

[N7Kopper]

You do lose Homebrew launching when you launch the Mii channel when you do it this way, but it works great all the same (I never preferred this alternate Mii channel way to launch the homebrew channel anyway, not sure why they push it with Tiramisu).

Future-proofing. The bare metal environment is better for developers I hear; and Aroma will make the user experience better than "lmao click Mii Maker" anyway. For the time being I do what you do for the same reasons you do, but I understand the reasoning.

 

[MikaDubbz]

Future-proofing. The bare metal environment is better for developers I hear; and Aroma will make the user experience better than "lmao click Mii Maker" anyway. For the time being I do what you do for the same reasons you do, but I understand the reasoning.

Aroma is supposedly going to do away with the homebrew Chanel entirely (even over mii maker) and all your homebrew apps will instead automatically populate the Wii U menu. Honestly I've heard Maschell talk about it a few times, and I'm really not looking forward to this aspect of Aroma, as I really do prefer a lot of my homebrew apps to be hidden away in a separate loader channel, and I have a lot of titles, so the homebrew apps populating the menu may actually take me past the 300 title limit, which would suck.

I know overall Aroma will be a game changer, but this aspect of it sounds like a downgrade at least for me anyway.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Mocha CFW isn't really a con, people just didn't recommend using it with CBHC or Haxchi because it didn't offer any advantages and it increased boot times.
Haven't tried Tiramisu yet myself (Wii U is gathering dust) but I imagine the boot time of that is not great as is with all the modularity it offers, but that modularity does have some real advantages. Could be considered a con though.

 

[MikaDubbz]

Mocha CFW isn't really a con, people just didn't recommend using it with CBHC or Haxchi because it didn't offer any advantages and it increased boot times.
Haven't tried Tiramisu yet myself (Wii U is gathering dust) but I imagine the boot time of that is not great as is with all the modularity it offers, but that modularity does have some real advantages. Could be considered a con though.

Beyond the quickstart menu popping up again when you boot in Tiramisu, I don't think I'm aware of any noticeable differences in boot times. There might be a difference, but it's subtle if there is.

 

[Deleted member 571007]

Beyond the quickstart menu popping up again when you boot in Tiramisu, I don't think I'm aware of any noticeable differences in boot times. There might be a difference, but it's subtle if there is.

I actually tested with time stamps (with autoboot anyway) and it loads exactly the same as a non-modded Wii U so boot time isn't affected.

 

[BaamAlex]

HB Channel doesnt work

Hb channel works fine

 

[godreborn]

the hb channel works now. it didn't at release unless you deleted one of the modules. now, that isn't necessary.

 

[Deleted member 571007]

the hb channel works now. it didn't at release unless you deleted one of the modules. now, that isn't necessary.

Didn't realize that, should I update my Tiramisu installation?