A definitive claim of safety merits that those cases are concluded to not being due to the vaccine. It is real data that contradict the claim, so it cannot be ignored.
You can skim away the “we don’t know” factor when determining to send someone to jail.
But the vaccine and claims of its safety do not get the benefit of the doubt.
Numerous replicable and peer-reviewed studies show the vaccines are safe and effective. We also know from the evidence that there has been no increase in the frequency of any serious health condition since the beginning of the pandemic that hasn't already been attributed to something (e.g. COVID-19). I love how you repeatedly and shamelessly keep ignoring this part since the reality of the situation doesn't fit well with your conspiratorial narrative. It makes me laugh.
The vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe, and the claims that they aren't or "we don't know" have been debunked.
You are right. But what the science says, and what it means for the real world application look like two different things. “The science” tests have a definite start and finish to curate data. We have no reason to expect there to be an end, so “the science” saying they are safe and effective is losing relevance every day as the conditions change. It comes to the point that you are your own misinformation if you aren’t fully informed with the threshold of how many boosters is good for the body, or the current dominating strain, its landscape, its complications and mortality. Basically, in this ongoing science experiment, your conclusions are really only hypotheses.
If you get vaccinated now, you will always be one or two doses behind everybody else, which means there will always be ample evidence of the safety and efficacy of the vaccines before you get another dose. With that concern and all others out of the way, please let us know how your first dose goes.
I can't believe I have to say this, but whether or not the safety of a 48th dose has been established is irrelevant to whether or not the safety of a first, second, third, or fourth dose has been established.
Well, I’ve been responding to claims that they are definitely safe, and that nobody has anything to worry about by jumping into the lifetime regiment of vaccination boosters.
The vaccines have been established to be as safe or safer than most commonly prescribed medical treatments.
Also, there’s data that a significant number of people may or may not have died from the vaccine.
There is zero data that any significant number of people have died from the vaccines, there is no data I'm aware of that anyone has died from an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, and we have data that contradicts the claim that any significant number of people have died from the vaccines.
Not only are you spewing unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, but you're spewing debunked unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
If it wasn't effective the first times, what's to say it is more effective the 3rd or 4th time?
I've taken the initial doses, but to me it kind of seems like the booster doses are just a form of doubling down on something that ultimately isn't all that effective anymore.
Although the initial two doses continue to be effective at keeping people from suffering serious illness and death, boosters have been shown to be significantly more effective at keeping people out of the hospital and from dying than the initial two doses alone.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that the current boosters are still the same vaccines as the first doses?
They are.
While it's true that vaccinated people like Lacius may have spread Covid 3x the amount of someone who was infected once does, and that contradictions exists in mandate policies... Anxiety and fear of either or is not the basis to be making rational decisions, and discrimination against someone isn't going to make your life stop sucking.
Since a vaccinated person is less likely to contract the disease than their unvaccinated counterparts, the unvaccinated (who didn't already have the disease) are more likely to catch and spread the disease.
Before the variants, a vaccinated person was less likely to contract the disease than an unvaccinated person with natural immunity alone.
With the variants, natural immunity offers somewhat more protection than vaccination alone, but vaccination plus natural immunity offers significantly better protection than natural immunity alone. Vaccination, of course, still offers significantly higher protection than not being vaccinated and not having natural immunity.
Even with the variants, the vaccine continues to be the safest and most effective way of reducing the spread of COVID-19, and it's also the best way to reduce one's odds of serious illness or death. In order to have natural immunity in the first place, you have to catch and potentially spread the disease.
Totally agree. I'd much rather be in a room full of the the unvaccinated, that have had a negative test, than a room full of triple jabbed vaccine cultists that haven't been tested.
If we stop comparing apples and oranges, I would rather be in a room of vaccinated people with negative tests than in a room of unvaccinated people with negative tests.
