Dark Horse and Nintendo team up to bring Hyrule Historia to America

[TripleSMoon]

So much drama over a stupid timeline that is just stupid.

Hey, I'm just throwing my ideas out there. If people get pissed off over it, that's their problem.

 

[gamefan5]

One word, Graphics. You know nintendo. They always want to change things drastically in franchise even things so insignificant. Zelda is no different. The master sword basically is the same. The basic design is the same. The iconic hilt of it (except ALTTP hence the mention of it) is the same. They change that only to fit the Link that they were supposed to go accordingly. After all, a TP MS wouldn't fit a child sized WW lick. So I don't thnk it should be taken into account. Now for the bolded part, I can't believe it ntil I see it with my own eyes. By making Skyward sword (and the events in it) They've set the timeline in stone. However nothing can be said if they allow another timeline to exist. A completely linear seperate timeline per se.

I know that's probably Nintendo's reason. I'm just saying that, purely from a standpoint of viewing it as a story where the Master Sword should always be the same, it makes sense. My personal explanation, that's all. Besides, I think it's a cool idea that the Master Sword could change its shape based on the needs of the Hero who uses it (making itself smaller for child Link, making itself larger for adult Link, etc)

But here's the thing. Nintendo reinvents. Nintendo could have chosen to stay with the same OoT style. They didn't. They want to make the series fresh and new with every installment. (Which is no problem. actually) Such a thing shouldn't affect your viewpoint of how a story should be made.

 

[gamefan5]

So much drama over a stupid timeline that is just stupid.

Such a comment is not needed here. If you don't like it, go look in another thread.

 

[TripleSMoon]

But here's the thing. Nintendo reinvents. Nintendo could have chosen to stay with the same OoT style. They didn't. They want to make the series fresh and new with every installment. (Which is no problem. actually) Such a thing shouldn't affect your viewpoint of how a story should be made.

I never said it did. I just said that was my personal theory on why the sword changes design, that's all. Take it or leave it.

 

[gamefan5]

But here's the thing. Nintendo reinvents. Nintendo could have chosen to stay with the same OoT style. They didn't. They want to make the series fresh and new with every installment. (Which is no problem. actually) Such a thing shouldn't affect your viewpoint of how a story should be made.

I never said it did. I just said that was my personal theory on why the sword changes design, that's all. Take it or leave it.

I've reread your thread BTW. It's never the same link or zelda.

The only exceptions are:
WW and Phantom H.
ATTLP and Link's A.
OoA and OoS
OoT and MM.

Ganon though is the same person in all the games, with good reason though.

 

[TripleSMoon]

I've reread your thread BTW. It's never the same link or zelda.

The only exceptions are:
WW and Phantom H.
ATTLP and Link's A.
OoA and OoS
OoT and MM.

Ganon though is the same person in all the games, with good reason though.

I know they're not the same. but they appear the same, is what I'm saying. No matter which game it is, it's (almost) always a princess who HAPPENS to be named Zelda with generally the same facial features, and either blond or brown hair, and a boy who HAPPENS to be named Link, with pointy ears, brown or blond hair, and a similar personality. Of course, THAT sort of makes sense, because of

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Demise's curse at the end of Skyward Sword

but it doesn't explain why OTHER characters who weren't affected by it like Beedle and Tingle magically appear in one game, and then in another game thousands of years later, or even in a different timeline split. Beedle appears in Skyward Sword and in Wind Waker. Tingle first appears in Majora's Mask in the child timeline, but reappears in Wind Waker, which is in the adult timeline. That's all I'm saying.

Again, this is all my personal speculation. I'm not saying this IS what's going on or isn't, or whatever. It's just a theory, that's all.

PS: Apparently, the Ganondorf in Four Swords Adventures is actually a different Ganondorf, interestingly enough (according to Hyrule Historia). All the other Ganons are the same, except for him.

 

[gamefan5]

I've reread your thread BTW. It's never the same link or zelda.

The only exceptions are:
WW and Phantom H.
ATTLP and Link's A.
OoA and OoS
OoT and MM.

Ganon though is the same person in all the games, with good reason though.

I know they're not the same. but they appear the same, is what I'm saying. No matter which game it is, it's (almost) always a princess who HAPPENS to be named Zelda with generally the same facial features, and either blond or brown hair, and a boy who HAPPENS to be named Link, with pointy ears, brown or blond hair, and a similar personality. Of course, THAT sort of makes sense, because of

Spoiler

Demise's curse at the end of Skyward Sword

but it doesn't explain why OTHER characters who weren't affected by it like Beedle and Tingle magically appear in one game, and then in another game thousands of years later, or even in a different timeline split. Beedle appears in Skyward Sword and in Wind Waker. Tingle first appears in Majora's Mask in the child timeline, but reappears in Wind Waker, which is in the adult timeline. That's all I'm saying.

Again, this is all my personal speculation. I'm not saying this IS what's going on or isn't, or whatever. It's just a theory, that's all.

PS: Apparently, the Ganondorf in Four Swords Adventures is actually a different Ganondorf, interestingly enough (according to Hyrule Historia). All the other Ganons are the same, except for him.

Of course they appear the same, the all descendants of the original Zelda, (which Ironically isn't a princess LOL)

Spoiler

Hylia (reincarnation of a goddess).

As for Link, they all trescends from the first original Link. Those destined to be a hero must wear a the hero's tunic. (Which is green.) LOL
As for the other characters... They have their own descendants and past selves as well. Why? I don't know. It's kinda like a cursed loop. (If you catch my drift)
(as in he is stuck meeting the same people, fighting the same kinds of monsters, etc)
Again I suggest knowing the timeline basically, as lots of things are not explained or revealed.

 

[gamefan5]

Again, the main problem is that arbitrarily hinging one of the timelines around something that does not happen in the story proper is kind of a cheat. It feels less like a logical progression of the various stories and more like a cheap copout when the team was having trouble fitting the games' stories together.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say!

To be entirely honest, I feel like a timeline for the Legend of Zelda series is unnecessary anyway. I'm all for having stories in games, but let's be honest; the LoZ series has never really focused on the narrative side of things. It's a pointless complication that's more of a hindrance than anything else.

That's sort of been my take lately... The way I see it, it's the Legend of Zelda, not the History of Zelda, and each game is "just one of the legends of which people speak," and, in context of the universe, by completely historical, completely legend, or most likely, a mix of both. This would explain why certain elements get reused over and over again (the rule of 3 stones, etc). Or why certain characters reappear exactly the same (besides Link, Ganon, and Zelda) when they exist hundreds or thousands of years apart (Beedle and Tingle, for example). Or why the Master Sword repeappears with different design and location in the various games.

http://zeldawiki.org/Zelda_Timeline
I suggest reading it, as it answers lot of questions.

EDIT: Lol you're right about FSA's Ganon. It's a reincarnation of the TP Ganon. He is refered as an Desert nomad that was kicked out the Gerudo's tribe.

 

[TripleSMoon]

http://zeldawiki.org/Zelda_Timeline
I suggest reading it, as it answers lot of questions.

Read this a while back. Thanks, though

 

[weavile001]

who cares about the history?,we only want to kick some monsters ass!

 

[gamefan5]

I do care about the history because I actually find it interesting.

 

[Bladexdsl]

got mine today and it's absolutely glorious gonna read it tonight

 

[Densetsu]

I have a few copies of the brown limited edition and a green regular edition

The US version of the book is HUGE and heavy compared to the Japanese version

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I haven't had time to flip through both the US and JP versions to compare side by side. The US copy is thicker, so I'm wondering if they added extra content.

 

[Pong20302000]

got mine a few days ago, been on pre-order before Christmas

 

[Bladexdsl]

yeah it is huge but i don 't mind the pictures are nice and big too and easier to view

i think the green (us) one actually does have extra pics.

man if you want a workout while reading this than hold it with 2 hands in mid air!

 

[Issac]

yeah it is huge but i don 't mind the pictures are nice and big too and easier to view

i think the green (us) one actually does have extra pics.

man if you want a workout while reading this than hold it with 2 hands in mid air!

I really want to get my hands on one of these... I don't mind the green one either, considering availability status and price haha... What I understand, there's no difference in content, just the book cover.

And Blade, for workout I suggest Absolute Sandman those. are. HUGE. And heavy!

 

[Rizsparky]

These are quite hard to get in England, orders getting cancelled everywhere, Amazon selling its for £35, way too much.

 

[Bladexdsl]

glad i pre-ordered mine a long time ago

 

[gamefan5]

lol This book is great though. Got it when it was released, the same day. It's great to read. It's also a bit heavier than it looks. XD

 

[Bladexdsl]

the 3rd timeline is still bs and a cop out though