Democratic Debates

[Glyptofane]

hey tempers, i heard they cutted Yang's mic to prevent him to talk, very democratic and fair indeed XDDD

Yang himself is saying this and I believe him. Even if he wasn't being deliberately silenced, he was given a pathetically low amount of speaking time.

 

[Xzi]

Yang himself is saying this and I believe him. Even if he wasn't being deliberately silenced, he was given a pathetically low amount of speaking time.

I felt like he failed to make effective use of what time he was given, but he definitely should've been given more regardless. Even Williamson got more speaking time, and she has no qualifications whatsoever.

 

[GhostLatte]

I felt like he failed to make effective use of what time he was given, but he definitely should've been given more regardless. Even Williamson got more speaking time, and she has no qualifications whatsoever.

Apparently they cut off his mic.

 

[Xzi]

Apparently they cut off his mic.

Yeah I saw that story. TBH everyone's mic should be off until they're given the floor to answer a question or respond to another candidate. They shouldn't be selective about whose mics they leave on to allow for interjection. Either all on or all off.

 

[AmandaRose]

The Scottish news just did a big piece on Joe Biden and made him out to be a huge racist and a thoroughly despicable person. Sounds like the perfect candidate to be next POTUS.

 

[GhostLatte]

The Scottish news just did a big piece on Joe Biden and made him out to be a huge racist and a thoroughly despicable person. Sounds like the perfect candidate to be next POTUS.

We're already have one in office now

 

[Xzi]

The Scottish news just did a big piece on Joe Biden and made him out to be a huge racist and a thoroughly despicable person. Sounds like the perfect candidate to be next POTUS.

Like so many issues, race seems to be one that Biden has "evolved" his stance on. At one point he gave an impassioned speech in favor of segregation. But Bernie is from the same generation and was on the right side of history every step of the way.

 

[SG854]

so proud boys and patriot prayer and whatever else flashy names they give themselves are not radical, don't bring weapons to their 'protests' and don't constantly get support from the right side of the media?
And where does 'antifa' get backed by the media? If anything, mainstream media outlets jump on the scaremongering bandwagon too.
I mean, come on, what paralell world are you living in?

Antifa was labeled by U.S. Security agencies, The Department of Homeland Security, as domestic terrorists. Proud boys aren’t. Not a scaremonger. They attack people. The use Molotov Cocktails, throw bombs, start fires, smash windows and beat the shit out of people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-domestic-terrorists-us-security-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html?amp




FBI says Proud boys aren’t extremist groups.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/?outputType=amp


If you follow Antifa and what they do it’s obvious they are domestic terrorists.

Yup. That's the thing I was referring to: why is she going viral with everything she does (which causes the opposition to waste time trying to debunk that) whereas these people hardly make a wrinkle?


Or to put it more cynical (because this is the USA we're talking about): if you're not being trashed by Fox and/or Donald Trump, you really aren't putting in your best effort as a democrat.

She has no basic understanding of economics. She thought accounting errors was money. She thought a tax break is money we can spend.


Her Green New Deal was a disaster, no one supported it, in Congress they all voted no, and said it would cost trillions if we implemented it. And it had things in it that had nothing to do with environmentalism like the female male wage gap and socialism.



She does horrible in polling data the more people learn about her and her positions the more negatively people view her.

https://ntknetwork.com/poll-americans-view-ocasio-cortez-more-negatively/


A lot of the time she has no idea what she’s talking about. She’s the Donald Trump of the left. Basically she gets lots of coverage and it makes her more popular. Her poll data is on Trumps level.

 

[Lacius]

Antifa was labeled by U.S. Security agencies, The Department of Homeland Security, as domestic terrorists. Proud boys aren’t. Not a scaremonger. They attack people. The use Molotov Cocktails, Throw bombs, start fires, smash windows and beat the shit out of people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-domestic-terrorists-us-security-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html?amp




FBI says Proud boys aren’t extremist groups.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/08/fbi-says-proud-boys-are-not-an-extremist-group-after-all/?outputType=amp


If you follow Antifa and what they do it’s obvious they are domestic terrorists.

According to the SPLC, Proud Boys is a designated hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

 

[Xzi]

Antifa was labeled by U.S. Security agencies as domestic terrorists. Proud boys aren’t. Not a scaremonger. They attack people.

FBI says Proud boys aren’t extremist groups.

Is it at all surprising that agencies headed by Trump appointees want to put the focus on Antifa instead of the rising attacks from white supremacist groups? Right-wing extremism was responsible for every extremist murder in 2018. The feds are currently tracking 850 possible domestic terrorists across the US, most of them white supremacists. The Proud Boys definitely fall under that category too, no matter what kind of semantics game the head of the FBI wants to play.

If you follow Antifa it’s obvious they are domestic terrorists.

As long as the standard is the same for other groups, I have no issue with calling Antifa domestic terrorists. That lowers the bar for terrorism to assault, though, a crime which the Proud Boys have also committed multiple times.

 

[SG854]

According to the SPLC, Proud Boys is a designated hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

Who's the SPLC? Are they a non profit?

 

[Lacius]

Who's the SPLC? Are they a non profit?

It's a nonprofit. Check the link.

 

[SG854]

Is it at all surprising that agencies headed by Trump appointees want to put the focus on Antifa instead of the rising attacks from white supremacist groups? Right-wing extremism was responsible for every extremist murder in 2018. The feds are currently tracking 850 possible domestic terrorists across the US, most of them white supremacists. The Proud Boys definitely fall under that category too, no matter what kind of semantics game the head of the FBI wants to play.


As long as the standard is the same for other groups, I have no issue with calling Antifa domestic terrorists. That lowers the bar for terrorism to assault, though, a crime which the Proud Boys have also committed multiple times.

Right Wing extremism and Proud boys are two different categories.

 

[Xzi]

Right Wing extremism and Proud boys are two different categories.

The Proud Boys are a white supremacist group who have been found guilty of assault on more than one occasion. Like I said, consistency is key. If you believe Antifa are terrorists for assaulting people, then the Proud Boys are terrorists for the same reason.

 

[chrisrlink]

we need trump out at all cost or have you not seen what he did in the Osaka summit? he's going to probably break ties with all countries but his owner Putin,as for the debate i didn't see it but read the aftermath and because of those few stances we're screwed

 

[SG854]

It's a nonprofit. Check the link.

I quickly went through it and it matches my what the FBI said. They are not labeled as Domestic Terrorists for exercising their free speech rights. And most of what I see in the website you linked I people speaking their thoughts.


All I see is them with opinions that people can just ignore. The fights seem like low level stuff compared to Antifa. Some in self defense against Antifa. Antifa uses Molotov Cocktails, Bombs, start fires, break windows, and beat the crap out of people.

Antifa beat up a Bernie Supporter for carrying an American Flag. And blood was coming from his head.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...e-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072?amp=1

One video of Antifa dragging an old lady to the ground.

And plenty of more videos you can find of them being violent. This is why they are labeled as domestic terrorists.


And Mc Innes said it’s ok to beat up Antifa in self defense since Antifa is know to attack people. And there was a whole debate on that a while back on who started the fight first.


Are they on the same level as Antifa on violence? Enough to be labeled as from Domestic terrorists. I will stay consistent and go after the Proud Boys, but according to the FBI they are not comprable and Antifa is far worse and really violent.

 

[SG854]

This is the guy that formed the Proud Boys by the way. Calling video games for children and are grown up man babies. Go build a table he says. Movies and TV is bad. The Ultimate Troll, lol.

That like to dislike radio though. He’s on Bill Maher’s level of Trolling.

 

[cots]

Sorry...you must've watched the wrong show. These aren't republican candidates.

All politicians are lying scum.

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Of course you don't see it when you don't want to see it. The top three are all polling 10+ points ahead of Trump nationally, however, and Trump has managed to lose a lot of his support in the Midwest by failing to live up to any of his campaign promises.

The economy is doing great. I don't see minor issues like LGBTQ rights having any bearing on the election. I mean it's possible we could regress back to the worse state we were in before the Republicans took control. I mean I'd love to be proved wrong. You know, have Democratic leadership and a good economy, but that rarely ever happens.

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Yup. That's the thing I was referring to: why is she going viral with everything she does (which causes the opposition to waste time trying to debunk that) whereas these people hardly make a wrinkle?


Or to put it more cynical (because this is the USA we're talking about): if you're not being trashed by Fox and/or Donald Trump, you really aren't putting in your best effort as a democrat.

Yeah, because the left doesn't have an entire media engine with the main purpose of doing the same thing to the right.

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I quickly went through it and it matches my what the FBI said. They are not labeled as Domestic Terrorists for exercising their free speech rights. And most of what I see in the website you linked I people speaking their thoughts.


All I see is them with opinions that people can just ignore. The fights seem like low level stuff compared to Antifa. Some in self defense against Antifa. Antifa uses Molotov Cocktails, Bombs, start fires, break windows, and beat the crap out of people.

Antifa beat up a Bernie Supporter for carrying an American Flag. And blood was coming from his head.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072?amp=1

One video of Antifa dragging an old lady to the ground.

And plenty of more videos you can find of them being violent. This is why they are labeled as domestic terrorists.


And Mc Innes said it’s ok to beat up Antifa in self defense since Antifa is know to attack people. And there was a whole debate on that a while back on who started the fight first.


Are they on the same level as Antifa on violence? Enough to be labeled as from Domestic terrorists. I will stay consistent and go after the Proud Boys, but according to the FBI they are not comprable and Antifa is far worse and really violent.

The facts and circumstances should be overlooked due to their political affiliation, of course.

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I've never seen Gabbard poll higher than 3% (and that's an outlier), and there haven't been any polls from after the debate. It should also be noted that her history on LGBT issues will almost certainly keep her from getting anywhere close to the Democratic nomination.

Considering the made up LGBTQ issue is a non issue I don't see anyone's views on it effecting the election results. We should focus on real issues.

 

[Lacius]

Considering the made up LGBTQ issue is a non issue I don't see anyone's views on it effecting the election results. We should focus on real issues.

Before I respond, could you explain what you specifically mean by made up LGBTQ issue?

 

[cots]

The Scottish news just did a big piece on Joe Biden and made him out to be a huge racist and a thoroughly despicable person. Sounds like the perfect candidate to be next POTUS.

He's a normal politician changing what he says he believes in to whatever is popular to get elected. He's another wealthy person who can't relate to the general public.