Do you believe in climate change/global warming?

[Xzi]

The agreement is non-binding and countries set their own benchmarks. Withdrawing from the deal once again shows that Trump has no ability to negotiate and no creativity. It's always, "Obama did it, so it must be bad. Hurr durr." A pet rock literally would've made a better president.

 

[Hanafuda]

I would add another option. I come in closest to this:

"Yes, climate change is real, but humans aren't the ones causing it"

But humans may be causing it, or causing some of it. I think cow farts are as big as fossil fuels. I think overpopulation is bigger than anything else, but we don't hear about that anymore. And while I have seen evidence that there has been a warming trend, I haven't seen convincing evidence that isolates humanity as the only cause. The earth has seen millions of warming and cooling trends through its history.

As for this Paris accord business (and the Copenhagen and Kyoto deals before that), the real aim of those people is getting a toe in the door to global government. No thanks. The UN is already bad and corrupt enough.

 

[rileysrjay]

I think it should say "Yes climax change is a real thing however I'm skeptical on how much us humans have had an affect on it and how much we really can do about it."

Yes, climate change is real and caused by humans, but I don't feel entitled to say what USA should do about it.

I don't see this option!

Added both. Had to shorten though a bit because of the character limit but I think they get the point across

 

[sarkwalvein]

I would add another option. I come in closest to this:

"Yes, climate change is real, but humans aren't the ones causing it"

But humans may be causing it, or causing some of it. I think cow farts are as big as fossil fuels. I think overpopulation is bigger than anything else, but we don't hear about that anymore. And while I have seen evidence that there has been a warming trend, I haven't seen convincing evidence that isolates humanity as the only cause. The earth has seen millions of warming and cooling trends through its history.

As for this Paris accord business (and the Copenhagen and Kyoto deals before that), the real aim of those people is getting a toe in the door to global government. No thanks. The UN is already bad and corrupt enough.

Cow farts play an important role, but the overpopulation of cows and the elevated levels of farting are a byproduct of the dairy industry and a consequence of our actions.

 

[rileysrjay]

The agreement is non-binding and countries set their own benchmarks. Withdrawing from the deal once again shows that Trump has no ability to negotiate and no creativity. It's always, "Obama did it, so it must be bad. Hurr durr." A pet rock literally would've made a better president.

Speaking of rocks, we already know Dwayne "the rock" Johnson is gonna win 2020

 

[CallmeBerto]

Speaking of rocks, we already know Dwayne "the rock" Johnson is gonna win 2020

Don't remind me >.< god the american people are F* idiots.

 

[rileysrjay]

Don't remind me >.< god the american people are F* idiots.

At least Trump had some credentials, like being a businessman (although he really hasn't shown that while being president). The rock, has, um, the new Baywatch movie?

 

[sarkwalvein]

If Reagan pulled it, the Rock also can! /s

 

[Xzi]

At least Trump had some credentials, like being a businessman (although he really hasn't shown that while being president). The rock, has, um, the new Baywatch movie?

OTOH the Rock at least had to earn his fame and fortune. Trump was born into wealth, that's the entirety of his credentials. That alone shouldn't even get you a job at McDonald's.

 

[sarkwalvein]

OTOH the Rock at least had to earn his fame and fortune. Trump was born into wealth, that's the entirety of his credentials. That alone shouldn't even get you a job at McDonald's.

How not?
Daddy trump would buy an McD store and give him the job.

 

[CallmeBerto]

At least Trump had some credentials, like being a businessman (although he really hasn't shown that while being president). The rock, has, um, the new Baywatch movie?

To be fair he kicked ass in his wrestling career and is the one of the most paid movie actors. The man is an amazing worker and they are already preparing him for him running.

 

[Hanafuda]

Cow farts play an important factor, but the overpopulation of cows and the elevated levels of farting are a byproduct of the dairy industry and a consequence of or actions.

Yeah, I wasn't implying that cow fart methane was the cows' fault. Humans created that industry, we're responsible for it.

If the earth is experiencing a warming trend that is NOT just the natural cycle of how the climate works (it was warmer than this in early medieval times, much colder than this during the 'little ice age', so is it surprising or unusual that it is getting warm again now?) then the theory is that this warming has been caused by the growth in human population and what we've done to meet our needs through agriculture and industrialization. And if that is true, there is no way to stop it short of sterilizing about 5 billion humans to cut the population by 80% or more over the next 50 years. Non-binding treaties and feelgood bumper stickers won't do shit.

 

[Aurora Wright]

http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/01/29/public-and-scientists-views-on-science-and-society/

/end thread

 

[Xzi]

How not?
Daddy trump would buy an McD store and give him the job.

Oh, being born wealthy will get you just about anything (up to and including the presidency) in this country. It's the only way to truly have freedom. That's the way things are, I'm just saying it's not the way things should be. Praying at the altar of trickle-down economics should've stopped long ago. Instead we're moving further into haves and have-nots territory.

 

[DiscostewSM]

By comparison, how much have humans contributed vs...a single volcano?

 

[Sliter]

most of people that don't believe don't even lived with a little bit of nature in life? even little changes does a big effect
When I was little there was like a half square with only trees and stuff, like a building sit, not a park, and near it, houses with not much than a single tree in front or a small one, me and some friends went there to play , at light guys want there do use drugs lol, anyway, there was fresh, had a nice wind that passed by there ...
One time it was all cut down and was let there like 5 year without building something there, I can tell the obvious that the freshness was lost and that place because hotter and dryer than before... if this happens in an small area with few trees, when they do in places that there a lots and lots what do you think gonna happen? people starting burn a lot of stuff from a time to other don't cause any problem? come on guys :B

 

[Xzi]

By comparison, how much have humans contributed vs...a single volcano?

One big corporate cow farm is probably the equivalent of an erupting volcano every day. The problem is the consistency with which people (and manmade products) spew emissions, not just the total amount.

 

[rileysrjay]

I would add another option. I come in closest to this:

"Yes, climate change is real, but humans aren't the ones causing it"

But humans may be causing it, or causing some of it. I think cow farts are as big as fossil fuels. I think overpopulation is bigger than anything else, but we don't hear about that anymore. And while I have seen evidence that there has been a warming trend, I haven't seen convincing evidence that isolates humanity as the only cause. The earth has seen millions of warming and cooling trends through its history.

As for this Paris accord business (and the Copenhagen and Kyoto deals before that), the real aim of those people is getting a toe in the door to global government. No thanks. The UN is already bad and corrupt enough.

So I guess I could add "yes, climate change is real, but humans are indirectly causing it via farming and other industries"

 

[Hanafuda]

So I guess I could add "yes, climate change is real, but humans are indirectly causing it via farming and other industries"

No, what I was suggesting would be "yes, climate change is real, but whether humans are causing it is uncertain"

But your changes have it covered.

 

[Paccc]

By comparison, how much have humans contributed vs...a single volcano?

Eh, a super volcano would greatly lower the global temperature.
The deccan traps lowered temps by 2 degrees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_Traps
that would not even be enough to wand off global warming, yet the event is widely known for triggering a mass extinction...