Nintendo is suing the Yuzu emulator team

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Nintendo is going after the development team of an emulator. A legal case was filed by Nintendo yesterday, alleging that the Nintendo Switch emulator, Yuzu, has caused damages to the company by allowing for its games to be played illegally before release. The suit also claims that the company behind the emulator, Tropic Haze LLC, makes a profit by facilitating piracy, noting that during the leak of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Yuzu's Patreon saw a large increase in users. Nintendo's legal team makes a case that Tropic Haze profits from and popularizes video game piracy.



In the legal document, Nintendo refers to an emulator as, "a piece of software that allows users to unlawfully play pirated video games". They also assert that the Yuzu team is aware of the emulator's use in the context of piracy, and do not try to hide that aspect. In addition, Nintendo's legal team states that extracting your own keys from a Nintendo Switch console--a requirement to run any Nintendo Switch emulator--is illegal.

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You don't even need a hacked Switch to play leaked games, unless they are a copy of the leaked games. All the games leaked on Switch are physical games because they are early sales/shipping games, a Nintendo Switch can already run these games and if the Nintendo Switch is hacked, the user can copy it and upload it to the internet. On the other hand, a digital game pre-downloaded is not accessible until the day of release because it lacks the access key.

According to points 32 and 33 of the same lawsuit, it mentions that the games are made up of two parts, the game content and the access key, it is also mentioned that the physical version has the access key included as a header in the content of the game. While the digital versions have it separated from the game content
Uhh… yes, we know that. Games usually leak somewhere along the chain between the publisher and the retailers.
 

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Even if Nintendo wins this suit, that doesn't automatically call all emulation into question. It's an easy leap of logic to make, but there are a few distinctions here:
1. Yuzu's release-day dumps are damning from a legal standpoint and could easily be seen as an advancement of piracy.
2. Yuzu represents Nintendo's biggest competition (presumably) in the piracy scene as games are still being released for the Switch, which therefore makes benefitting-off-of-piracy claims the easiest to prove.
3. Yuzu has a higher than average focus on Patreon, in part due to the continual nature of the emulator, but that also paints a bigger target on their back.
4. Nintendo's claim here is not that emulators provoke piracy, but rather that the owners benefitted off of piracy (which, given the above, is quite easy to prove). Now, I'm sure that emulation provoking piracy will, at the very least, come up during the suit, but prior precedent has established that Nintendo doesn't really have that authority to dictate.
 
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I'm hoping there is a GoFundMe or Kickstarter for yuzu's legal defense.

I'm sick to death of companies abusing these lawsuits to bankrupt someone that actually makes *gasp* a better product.
Looking forward to the same.
They got loads of money so they're probably fine
You likely don't realize how costly legal procedures in the USA are. Nintendo can easily destroy them if they don't get significant financial support.
 

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Nintendo can easily destroy them if they don't get significant financial support.
Correction: Nintendo will destroy them regardless of if they get significant financial support.
Nintendo's spent decades learning the rules of the courtroom. They have the upper hand in this case and they know it. The Yuzu team has all but handed them the verdict thanks to the release day dump blogs.
Nintendo can, and will, throw money at the case until they win and/or bankrupt the competition. That's how they handle all their lawsuits.
Team Yuzu, regardless of any fundraising, is royally fucked.
 
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These stories always remind me of the time Nintendo sold a rom that they downloaded from one of the sites that we cannot talk about here on the Wii shopping channel. Also reminds me that there are no good people in this argument. Just poor bad people, bad people with enough cash to be comfortable, wealthy bad people… and of course at the top of that pile is the conglomerate of bad people who own Japan‘s largest company.
 
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Even if Nintendo wins this suit, that doesn't automatically call all emulation into question. It's an easy leap of logic to make, but there are a few distinctions here:
1. Yuzu's release-day dumps are damning from a legal standpoint and could easily be seen as an advancement of piracy.
2. Yuzu represents Nintendo's biggest competition (presumably) in the piracy scene as games are still being released for the Switch, which therefore makes benefitting-off-of-piracy claims the easiest to prove.
3. Yuzu has a higher than average focus on Patreon, in part due to the continual nature of the emulator, but that also paints a bigger target on their back.
4. Nintendo's claim here is not that emulators provoke piracy, but rather that the owners benefitted off of piracy (which, given the above, is quite easy to prove). Now, I'm sure that emulation provoking piracy will, at the very least, come up during the suit, but prior precedent has established that Nintendo doesn't really have that authority to dictate.
I think the end goal is to settle out of court and squeeze Yuzu, killing the project. The same could be said about ReGTA if anyone remembers that debacle. I don’t think they actually intend to argue this in front of a judge, they know ahead of time that Yuzu can’t pay damages like that.
 
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I think the end goal is to settle out of court and squeeze Yuzu, killing the project. The same could be said about ReGTA if anyone remembers that debacle. I don’t think they actually intend to argue this in front of a judge, they know ahead of time that Yuzu can’t pay damages like that.
That's very possible as well. It's difficult to tell this early on since they've gone both ways. I tend to think that they'll go farther in this case due to how much revenue they've presumably lost to Yuzu, but that remains to be seen.
 

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Even if Nintendo wins this suit, that doesn't automatically call all emulation into question. It's an easy leap of logic to make, but there are a few distinctions here:
1. Yuzu's release-day dumps are damning from a legal standpoint and could easily be seen as an advancement of piracy.
2. Yuzu represents Nintendo's biggest competition (presumably) in the piracy scene as games are still being released for the Switch, which therefore makes benefitting-off-of-piracy claims the easiest to prove.
3. Yuzu has a higher than average focus on Patreon, in part due to the continual nature of the emulator, but that also paints a bigger target on their back.
4. Nintendo's claim here is not that emulators provoke piracy, but rather that the owners benefitted off of piracy (which, given the above, is quite easy to prove). Now, I'm sure that emulation provoking piracy will, at the very least, come up during the suit, but prior precedent has established that Nintendo doesn't really have that authority to dictate.
You're right, but it still presents a threat to emulators. That doesn't mean they'll just follow up with Ryujinx or Dolphin or something, but who knows? If they win, it's not impossible that they'll think they can scratch a bit more and attack an emulator we thought was out of reach.
 

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have the yuzu people released any sort of statement in response to this yet? do we know what kind of legal defense resources they have?
No and that is concerning. I wonder if they legally cannot discuss from a gag order so they can't drum up public support
 
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If the Yuzu team has any real chance of losing, I'm hoping they will fall on their sword and take the L for the benefit of the greater community. If they take it to court and they lose in a serious way it could cripple emulation in ways we can't even being to imagine with the wrong judge and/or jury.

They made major money off of their Patreon over the years. They had to know they were tempting fate with that.

If they let a foul ruling befall emulation just to try and avoid an L for themselves personally, I don't think any condemnation by the larger community could be enough for the damage it will cause.
 

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i mean theyre not wrong
How are they not wrong.

Not everyone pirates games, some of us have legally dumped our own game cartridges and would rather emulate it on better hardware than Nintendo's cheap shitty inferior hardware.

I mean, we can actually get to play Nintendo's very own "First Party" titles in FULL HD or even 4K resolution, which LOL still waiting for Nintendo to catch up and start to fully support even the basics of HD formats - 1080p, as its games struggle to even run on its official hardware.

We also get to run games at better frame rates than trying to play the game on Nintendo's shitty cheap inferior hardware, we also get game fixes and improvements to Nintendo Switch games in which Nintendo STILL FAILS at even trying to IMPROVE Breath of the Fucking Wet Fart, even Tears of the Dogs Arse has seen vast improvements and fixes from the community that Nintendo actually providing you these fixes, considering you've paid them by buying their shit games.

As for "PROFITING" Nintendo again doing what they do best, Seek out any excuse to SUE for Millions over some BS claim of DAMAGES and LOST SALES just so they can steal more money, like they fucking focus more on taking people to court than they do putting effort in giving us better/new fucking games to play.

AS for its PATREON that doesn't go towards PIRACY at all and its amazing how LARGE companies like Nintendo are able to BUY OUT the LEGAL SYSTEM to SUITE THEIR NEEDS, those who support the development of the emulator are simply supporting the development, the time the team spend working on it and possible hardware to do so.

FACT is Nintendo are always crying over emulators insisting that they allow Piracy, which in a sense it does not contain any of Ninteno's code or software, and why would it come with such so called piracy prevention methods (which is absolutely FUCKING hilarious because from day 1 the Nintendo Switch has done sweet FUCK ALL to BLOCK exploits or the ability to run backed up games).

Emulators obviously do not include so called Anti Piracy tools, because they clearly state the emulators are for users who wish to play their own backed up games.

The REAL PROBLEM HERE is that Nintendo have no means to prevent its exploits and piracy, they could have if they actually SPENT MONEY doing so, rather than SHITTING OUT a different model which they basically moved its board exploit point from A to B so the old method wouldnt work, but its not as if Nintendo were at a loss buy SHITTING OUT another model, its not as if they arent CUNTS for constanly SHITTING OUT vast amount of different versions of the same console.

Also another FACT when they were even showcasing its next SHITGEN console, it running off a PC using a CHEAP watered down version of UE5, likely to be its next CHEAP OLD SHITTY HARDWARE CONSOLE and it running ZELDA with graphical improvements using UE5 in which WE ALREADY HAD thanks to these EMULATORS and given these FREE UPDATES so we can again, ACTUALLY GET a BETTER EXPERIENCE playing Nintendo's FIRST PARTY TITLES.

BUT THIS ALSO gain goes to SUGGEST that this PC EMULATOR that they were running, nicely hidden away from sight, this ZELDA GAME going to be Nintendo AGAIN RECYCLING THE SAME SHIT yet again over to its NEXT SHITGEN CONSOLE, thus its IDIOTIC FANBOYS will be blindly rushing to buy the same game again and be like WOW ITS AMAZING.

Meanwhile normal folks be like MEH, so what, we STILL get better thanks to these EMULATORS and are able to play the EXACT same game with better fixes and mods without having to buy Nintendo's SHITTY INFERIOR HARDWARE NEXT GEN CONSOLE to play the EXACT SAME GAMES ALL OVER AGAIN.

And just because Nintendo can't protect its own games ensuring that when they release it, that it is to TRUSTED folks that aren't going to LEAK its games EARLY, or EVEN maybe NOT give out its games at such an early point so that people cant dump it and release it early.

This is THEIR PROBLEM and FAULT, has sweet fuck all to do with emulators, as it is NOT the creators of the EMULATORS that are leaking said games early nor are they even providing links for people to illegally download and PIRATE Nintendo Switch Games.

And as for its MILLIONS claim of DAMAGES, their is no means of providing proof that this emulator has even caused Nintendo DAMAGES to its STUPID claim, just them as usual paying their LEGAL DOGS to CORRUPT AND CHANGE LAWS TO SUITE THEIR NEEDS

It is also HIGHLY LIKELY that those who illegally downloaded PIRATED Nintendo's shit games will have had NO INTEREST in even BUYING THEIR SHIT GAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Those that had interest in buying the game will have done so, and at the same time will have either dumped their own game cartridges or just downloaded it, but fact is THEY STILL BOUGHT THE GAME and LIKE MYSELF with games I emulate games, are the VERY FEW games that are actually WORTH PLAYING as always Nintendo ALWAYS FAIL AND LACK THIS SO CALLED BETTER THIRD PARTY SUPPORT PROMISE that they KEEP ON SPITTING OUT, NEVER HAPPENS and they KNOW this as they INTENTIONALLY SET OUT TO PREVENT THIRD PARTY SUPPORT.

Nintendo Act like their own GOVERNMENT where they have VERY STRICT CONTROL over what people can do, even web browsing has strict rules that they will PREVENT YOU FROM ACCESSING WEBSITES as they DEMAND.

Nintendo share the same attitude with its SHIT CONSOLES, they set out to have FULL CONTROL over its consoles game market and set out to PREVENT COMPETITION from its so called BETTER THIRD PARTY SUPPORT by ALWAYS releasing CHEAP SHITTY INFERIOR HARDWARE so that THIRD PARTIES are PREVENTED from even SUPPORTING Nintendo with their NEW AAA TITLES.

SO it leaves the MARKET open for their USUAL SAME OLD RECYCLED SHIT when there's NOTHING NEW from THIRD PARTIES, so they have removed any/all COMPETITION ensuring their GAMES GET BETTER SALES.

Like what really is the likeliness Nintendo Fanboys be like OHHH LETS BUY THIS THIRD PARTY GAME which is ported back from PAST GEN consoles - Which Nintendo DID FAIL as ALWAYS to get when it FIRST RELEASED or LETS BUY THE SAME OLD RECYCLED MARIO TITLES (which the FANBOYS will always BLINDLY defend Nintendo as they do).

And as for their BULLSHITE excuse about KEYS, YUZU simply provide a FAQ on how to obtain them LEGALLY from your console, do we see Nintendo seeking LEGAL DAMAGES to GOOGLE who do exactly the same and provide links and guides on how to do so, they also provide top result links to even download Nintendo games so easily.

They simply hate the FACT that EVERYTHING that Nintendo does, EVERYONE ELSE CAN DO BETTER, the FACT PROVES that Nintendo NO LONGER CARE ABOUT Creating QUALITY GAMES, they CANT EVEN BE ARSED to make sure ITS OWN GAMES run BETTER, they are ALWAYS 5 STEPS BEHIND EVERYONE else, simply because they ALWAYS seek to use the CHEAPEST HARDWARE, AS LONG as its OWN TITLES are somewhat able to run, that is all that matters.

THE FANBOYS have PROVEN that they will continue to BLINDLY KEEP RE-BUYING Nintendo's recycled shit over and over, they even make the excuse when Nintendo couldnt be arsed and kept porting over WII U games, said EXCUSE of NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE PLAYED IT FIRST TIME ROUND.

Though if that were the case, its HIGHLY LIKELY if you had NOT played all of these OLD LAZY PORTS then there IS a REASON FOR DOING SO, but ALSO, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BUY Nintendo's NEXT SHITTY INFERIOR SO CALLED NEXT GEN CONSOLE to play all of these OLD SHITTY RECYCLED PORTS.

Its actually PROVEN that we NO LONGER NEED Nintendo to keep RELEASING OLD INFERIOR SHITTY HARDWARE just to play OLD PORTS and the SAME OLD RECYCLED SHIT. They should just become THIRD PARTY so that those who MAY WISH to play these SHIT TITLES, they can do so on ACTUAL NEXT GEN HARDWARE and GET THE OPTION TO ALSO PLAY TODAYS CURRENT AAA THIRD PARTY TITLES.

But AGAIN, Nintendo LAUGH as they know their LOYAL FANBOYS are like BRAINDEAD SHEEP and will FLOCK to KEEP BUYING THEIR SHITE HARDWARE and RECYCLED GAMES, so the ONLY Reason they KEEP DOING SO is because their FANBOYS ARE BUYING THEIR SHIT CONSOLES.

To be FAIR, I THINK NINTENDO LIE IN COURTS TO EARN MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THEIR GAMES ARE ACTUALLY GETTING and LIE about DAMAGES to pull some BS FIGURE out of their ARSE.

And I think its time these CORRUPT JUDGES THAT CLEARLY ARE PAID OUT stop doing as Nintendo demand because this Emulator does not come with nor does it include anything that belongs to Nintendo, nor is it the cause of PIRACY on their CONSOLES.

SO its TIME NINTENDO GETS A BIG MASSIVE FUCK YOU and FUCK OFF.

Id rather EMULATE the VERY MINIMAL NUMBER OF GAMES that I FIND WORTHY OF EVEN BUYING and KEEP MY ORIGINAL GAME SEALED AWAY where it will INCREASE in VALUE SIMPLY BECAUSE (WHICH MAINLY ONLY APPLIES TO NINTENDO) AS SOON AS THEY END A CONSOLES LIFE, IT PRETTY MUCH INSTANTLY DISSAPEARS FROM ALL GAME STORES AND FACT IS, ITS VERY LIMITED GAME SUPPORT SHOWS THIS FACT AS YOU ALREADY FIND THE VERY LIMITED SHELF SPACE FOR NINTENDO GAMES GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER, BUT AGAIN, ITS GAMES RAPIDLY VANSIH NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN, UNLESS YOU ARE A COLLECTOR TO WHICH IS THE EXACT REASON TO WHY NINTENDO GAMES ARE THE MAIN GAMES THAT INCREASE IN VALUE TO STUPID AMOUNTS.
 

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How are they not wrong.

Not everyone pirates games, some of us have legally dumped our own game cartridges and would rather emulate it on better hardware than Nintendo's cheap shitty inferior hardware.

I mean, we can actually get to play Nintendo's very own "First Party" titles in FULL HD or even 4K resolution, which LOL still waiting for Nintendo to catch up and start to fully support even the basics of HD formats - 1080p, as its games struggle to even run on its official hardware.

We also get to run games at better frame rates than trying to play the game on Nintendo's shitty cheap inferior hardware, we also get game fixes and improvements to Nintendo Switch games in which Nintendo STILL FAILS at even trying to IMPROVE Breath of the Fucking Wet Fart, even Tears of the Dogs Arse has seen vast improvements and fixes from the community that Nintendo actually providing you these fixes, considering you've paid them by buying their shit games.

As for "PROFITING" Nintendo again doing what they do best, Seek out any excuse to SUE for Millions over some BS claim of DAMAGES and LOST SALES just so they can steal more money, like they fucking focus more on taking people to court than they do putting effort in giving us better/new fucking games to play.

AS for its PATREON that doesn't go towards PIRACY at all and its amazing how LARGE companies like Nintendo are able to BUY OUT the LEGAL SYSTEM to SUITE THEIR NEEDS, those who support the development of the emulator are simply supporting the development, the time the team spend working on it and possible hardware to do so.

FACT is Nintendo are always crying over emulators insisting that they allow Piracy, which in a sense it does not contain any of Ninteno's code or software, and why would it come with such so called piracy prevention methods (which is absolutely FUCKING hilarious because from day 1 the Nintendo Switch has done sweet FUCK ALL to BLOCK exploits or the ability to run backed up games).

Emulators obviously do not include so called Anti Piracy tools, because they clearly state the emulators are for users who wish to play their own backed up games.

The REAL PROBLEM HERE is that Nintendo have no means to prevent its exploits and piracy, they could have if they actually SPENT MONEY doing so, rather than SHITTING OUT a different model which they basically moved its board exploit point from A to B so the old method wouldnt work, but its not as if Nintendo were at a loss buy SHITTING OUT another model, its not as if they arent CUNTS for constanly SHITTING OUT vast amount of different versions of the same console.

Also another FACT when they were even showcasing its next SHITGEN console, it running off a PC using a CHEAP watered down version of UE5, likely to be its next CHEAP OLD SHITTY HARDWARE CONSOLE and it running ZELDA with graphical improvements using UE5 in which WE ALREADY HAD thanks to these EMULATORS and given these FREE UPDATES so we can again, ACTUALLY GET a BETTER EXPERIENCE playing Nintendo's FIRST PARTY TITLES.

BUT THIS ALSO gain goes to SUGGEST that this PC EMULATOR that they were running, nicely hidden away from sight, this ZELDA GAME going to be Nintendo AGAIN RECYCLING THE SAME SHIT yet again over to its NEXT SHITGEN CONSOLE, thus its IDIOTIC FANBOYS will be blindly rushing to buy the same game again and be like WOW ITS AMAZING.

Meanwhile normal folks be like MEH, so what, we STILL get better thanks to these EMULATORS and are able to play the EXACT same game with better fixes and mods without having to buy Nintendo's SHITTY INFERIOR HARDWARE NEXT GEN CONSOLE to play the EXACT SAME GAMES ALL OVER AGAIN.

And just because Nintendo can't protect its own games ensuring that when they release it, that it is to TRUSTED folks that aren't going to LEAK its games EARLY, or EVEN maybe NOT give out its games at such an early point so that people cant dump it and release it early.

This is THEIR PROBLEM and FAULT, has sweet fuck all to do with emulators, as it is NOT the creators of the EMULATORS that are leaking said games early nor are they even providing links for people to illegally download and PIRATE Nintendo Switch Games.

And as for its MILLIONS claim of DAMAGES, their is no means of providing proof that this emulator has even caused Nintendo DAMAGES to its STUPID claim, just them as usual paying their LEGAL DOGS to CORRUPT AND CHANGE LAWS TO SUITE THEIR NEEDS

It is also HIGHLY LIKELY that those who illegally downloaded PIRATED Nintendo's shit games will have had NO INTEREST in even BUYING THEIR SHIT GAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Those that had interest in buying the game will have done so, and at the same time will have either dumped their own game cartridges or just downloaded it, but fact is THEY STILL BOUGHT THE GAME and LIKE MYSELF with games I emulate games, are the VERY FEW games that are actually WORTH PLAYING as always Nintendo ALWAYS FAIL AND LACK THIS SO CALLED BETTER THIRD PARTY SUPPORT PROMISE that they KEEP ON SPITTING OUT, NEVER HAPPENS and they KNOW this as they INTENTIONALLY SET OUT TO PREVENT THIRD PARTY SUPPORT.

Nintendo Act like their own GOVERNMENT where they have VERY STRICT CONTROL over what people can do, even web browsing has strict rules that they will PREVENT YOU FROM ACCESSING WEBSITES as they DEMAND.

Nintendo share the same attitude with its SHIT CONSOLES, they set out to have FULL CONTROL over its consoles game market and set out to PREVENT COMPETITION from its so called BETTER THIRD PARTY SUPPORT by ALWAYS releasing CHEAP SHITTY INFERIOR HARDWARE so that THIRD PARTIES are PREVENTED from even SUPPORTING Nintendo with their NEW AAA TITLES.

SO it leaves the MARKET open for their USUAL SAME OLD RECYCLED SHIT when there's NOTHING NEW from THIRD PARTIES, so they have removed any/all COMPETITION ensuring their GAMES GET BETTER SALES.

Like what really is the likeliness Nintendo Fanboys be like OHHH LETS BUY THIS THIRD PARTY GAME which is ported back from PAST GEN consoles - Which Nintendo DID FAIL as ALWAYS to get when it FIRST RELEASED or LETS BUY THE SAME OLD RECYCLED MARIO TITLES (which the FANBOYS will always BLINDLY defend Nintendo as they do).

And as for their BULLSHITE excuse about KEYS, YUZU simply provide a FAQ on how to obtain them LEGALLY from your console, do we see Nintendo seeking LEGAL DAMAGES to GOOGLE who do exactly the same and provide links and guides on how to do so, they also provide top result links to even download Nintendo games so easily.

They simply hate the FACT that EVERYTHING that Nintendo does, EVERYONE ELSE CAN DO BETTER, the FACT PROVES that Nintendo NO LONGER CARE ABOUT Creating QUALITY GAMES, they CANT EVEN BE ARSED to make sure ITS OWN GAMES run BETTER, they are ALWAYS 5 STEPS BEHIND EVERYONE else, simply because they ALWAYS seek to use the CHEAPEST HARDWARE, AS LONG as its OWN TITLES are somewhat able to run, that is all that matters.

THE FANBOYS have PROVEN that they will continue to BLINDLY KEEP RE-BUYING Nintendo's recycled shit over and over, they even make the excuse when Nintendo couldnt be arsed and kept porting over WII U games, said EXCUSE of NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE PLAYED IT FIRST TIME ROUND.

Though if that were the case, its HIGHLY LIKELY if you had NOT played all of these OLD LAZY PORTS then there IS a REASON FOR DOING SO, but ALSO, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BUY Nintendo's NEXT SHITTY INFERIOR SO CALLED NEXT GEN CONSOLE to play all of these OLD SHITTY RECYCLED PORTS.

Its actually PROVEN that we NO LONGER NEED Nintendo to keep RELEASING OLD INFERIOR SHITTY HARDWARE just to play OLD PORTS and the SAME OLD RECYCLED SHIT. They should just become THIRD PARTY so that those who MAY WISH to play these SHIT TITLES, they can do so on ACTUAL NEXT GEN HARDWARE and GET THE OPTION TO ALSO PLAY TODAYS CURRENT AAA THIRD PARTY TITLES.

But AGAIN, Nintendo LAUGH as they know their LOYAL FANBOYS are like BRAINDEAD SHEEP and will FLOCK to KEEP BUYING THEIR SHITE HARDWARE and RECYCLED GAMES, so the ONLY Reason they KEEP DOING SO is because their FANBOYS ARE BUYING THEIR SHIT CONSOLES.

To be FAIR, I THINK NINTENDO LIE IN COURTS TO EARN MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THEIR GAMES ARE ACTUALLY GETTING and LIE about DAMAGES to pull some BS FIGURE out of their ARSE.

And I think its time these CORRUPT JUDGES THAT CLEARLY ARE PAID OUT stop doing as Nintendo demand because this Emulator does not come with nor does it include anything that belongs to Nintendo, nor is it the cause of PIRACY on their CONSOLES.

SO its TIME NINTENDO GETS A BIG MASSIVE FUCK YOU and FUCK OFF.

Id rather EMULATE the VERY MINIMAL NUMBER OF GAMES that I FIND WORTHY OF EVEN BUYING and KEEP MY ORIGINAL GAME SEALED AWAY where it will INCREASE in VALUE SIMPLY BECAUSE (WHICH MAINLY ONLY APPLIES TO NINTENDO) AS SOON AS THEY END A CONSOLES LIFE, IT PRETTY MUCH INSTANTLY DISSAPEARS FROM ALL GAME STORES AND FACT IS, ITS VERY LIMITED GAME SUPPORT SHOWS THIS FACT AS YOU ALREADY FIND THE VERY LIMITED SHELF SPACE FOR NINTENDO GAMES GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER, BUT AGAIN, ITS GAMES RAPIDLY VANSIH NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN, UNLESS YOU ARE A COLLECTOR TO WHICH IS THE EXACT REASON TO WHY NINTENDO GAMES ARE THE MAIN GAMES THAT INCREASE IN VALUE TO STUPID AMOUNTS.
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Ethically, I’m torn regarding this. For current systems, I actually see where Nintendo is coming from. For older systems like, 3DS and WiiU I support emulating those since technically they don’t make games and systems anymore.

I know emulation is important to game preservations, especially since we’re getting to digital only era. But emulating current gen system for the most part, is done for piracy. I’m sure there’s exceptions, of people paying for games that they emulate. But I’m sure majority of people who emulate Switch on PC are pirating. Even those people saying I’m emulating because I want higher fps on my games. I sure majority of those people just pirate, and not buy games to support the developers.

In my opinion , I see those pirates hurting certain games and future sequels. I’m not talking about AAA games by Nintendo but smaller games, that could benefit from more sales in order to get the developers money to make the sequel. Again this is in regards to emulating current systems, not older gen that don’t have new releases anymore.
 

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Ethically, I’m torn regarding this. For current systems, I actually see where Nintendo is coming from. For older systems like, 3DS and WiiU I support emulating those since technically they don’t make games and systems anymore.

I know emulation is important to game preservations, especially since we’re getting to digital only era. But emulating current gen system for the most part, is done for piracy. I’m sure there’s exceptions, of people paying for games that they emulate. But I’m sure majority of people who emulate Switch on PC are pirating. Even those people saying I’m emulating because I want higher fps on my games. I sure majority of those people just pirate, and not buy games to support the developers.

In my opinion , I see those pirates hurting certain games and future sequels. I’m not talking about AAA games by Nintendo but smaller games, that could benefit from more sales in order to get the developers money to make the sequel. Again this is in regards to emulating current systems, not older gen that don’t have new releases anymore.
Thats is what is so interesting.
Should it be legal to emulate after the lifetime of said console or should it be free to do whenever?

Since this in fact do hurt Nintendo sales since people don't need to buy a Switch to play the games.
 

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