Homebrew SNES9x for Old 3DS

[Deleted User]

@bubble2k16, I did some testing with Snes9x for 3DS Version Version 1.21 the last weeks. I updated the wiki as well.
Below is a list of bugs/glitches I want to show you:

• Accele Bird JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Game freezes during the first Level.
  
• Actraiser 2 USA - O3DS & N3DS: Mode 7 cinematic hangs upon entering stage. EUR version works, use that instead.
  
• Appleseed JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played Stage 1. I noticed much flickering in the Background.
• Arcade's Greatest Hits - Williams - EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: All Games. Full Speed. No SFX. Playable.
• Arcus Spirits JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Shadows in the first Level flicker a lot.
  
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• Bugs Bunny - Hachamecha Daibouken - JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played the Level 1-1. I noticed some glitches in the Background.
  
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• Clay Fighter - Tournament Edition - USA - O3DS only: The Game freezes after a battle. Full Speed. Good Audio. Unplayable.
• Clay Fighter 2 - Judgement Clay EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: The game freezes at the end of a battle. Unplayable.
• Clock Tower JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Character Portrait are glitched up and flicker.
  
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• Dirt Racer - EUR - O3DS & N3DS: Black Screen after the Licensed by Screen.
  
• Dragonball Z - La Legende Saien - EUR - O3DS: I fought a battle. Lots of flickering. I noticed some glitches.
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• Earth Light - Luna Strike - JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Black Screen after pressing start on the Titlescreen.
  
• Earthworm Jim 2 EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Stage. Minor Audio glitches.
  
• ESPN Sunday Night NFL USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played a game. I noticed many GFX Glitches on the Field.
  
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• F1 Grand Prix JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Heavy Speed Problems. Framerate skips between 08-59 FPS without Frameskip on.
  
• F1 Pole Position EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: There is some flickering on Screen.
• F1 World Championship Edition EUR - O3DS & N3DS: I played the Grand Prix mode. Lots off flickering on Screen.
• Family Dog EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: Some flickering in the Background while moving around.
• Final Fight JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Capcom presents Screen is glitched up.
• Full Power JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Raceway flickers a lot.
• Full Trottle Racing EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: The Raceway flickers a lot.
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• Godzilla - Kaijuu Daikessen JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Black Screen after starting a game in normal mode.
  
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• Hayazashi Nidan Morita Shougi 2 JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Game freezes after you start a game.
  
• Honkaku Mahjong - Tetsuman 2 JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Some Glitches on Screen when changing between Menus.
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• Kawa no Nushi Tsuri 2 JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I walked around the Village. The Trees flicker while moving.
• Kawasaki Superbike Challenge EUR & USA - Both O3DS & N3DS: The Raceway flickers a lot. Some of the Background is missing.
• Kishin Douji Zenki - Tenchi Meidou JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Black Screen. The Game won´t boot.
  
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• Lamborghini - American Challenge - EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played a race in Championship mode. The Raceway flickers a lot.
• Laser Birdie - Get in the Hole JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Game is stuck on the Yellow Caution Screen.
• Last Fighter Twin JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Slight flickering right below the Status Bar while you attack.
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• Magic Boy EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I noticed some glitches on the Magic Boy Logo. I played Section 1.
• Marko´s Magic Football EUR - O3DS: Black Screen after the Acclaim presents Screen.
  
• Mecarobot Golf USA - O3DS & N3DS: Heavy flickering on the Golf Course.
• Mortal Kombat 2 (V1.1) - EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: The Small Character Portrait are glitched up. Game becomes slow with Palette Changes enabled.
• Mortal Kombat 2 - Kyuukyoku Shinken JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Small Character Portrait are glitched up. Game becomes slow with Palette Changes enabled.
• Moryou Senki Madara 2 JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Japanese textbar has some glitches.
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• Newman-Hass Indy Car Featuring Nigel Mansell EUR & JAP & USA - O3DS & N3DS: The Raceway flickers a lot.
• NFL Quaterback Club EUR & JAP & USA - O3DS & N3DS: Sometimes Glitched up Titlescreen.
• Nigel Mansell´s F-1 Challenge JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Raceway flickers a lot. Parts of the Background are missing.
• Nigel Mansell´s World Championship Racing (V1.1) EUR - O3DS & N3DS: The Raceway flickers a lot. Parts of the Background are missing.
• Nigel Mansell´s World Championship Racing USA - O3DS & N3DS: The Raceway flickers a lot. Parts of the Background are missing.
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• Paladin´s Quest USA - O3DS & N3DS: I walked around the Classroom. Flickering while moving around.
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• Rocky Rodent EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: Black Screen. The Game won´t boot.
  
• Romancing SaGa 3 (V1.1) JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Messed up text at the Character Select Screen before you start the game.
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• Secret of Evermore EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I fought a battle in the Laboratory. Minor Audio noises.
• Seijuu Maden - Beasts & Blades JAP - O3DS: Massive Slowdown O3DS only. Framerate is 35-59 FPS without Frameskip on during the Intro. Full Speed afterwards.
• Shin Nippon Pro Wrestling - Chou Senshi in Tokyo Dome JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Glitched up Titlescreen.
• Sink or Swim EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Level. Sound Issues when you jump.
• Spindizzy Worlds EUR & JAP & USA - O3DS & N3DS: Lots of flickering in the Tutorial level when you move around.
• Stealth JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Mission. The Textbox flickers a lot.
• Stone Protectors USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Level. Heavy Flickering in the Background.
• Sugoro Quest ++ Dicenics JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Map. There is much flickering on the Mode 7 World Map.
• Super 3D Baseball JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I get an ARM 11 exception occurred Error after booting the game. Unplayable.
• Super Air Diver DSP Loader JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Black Screen after boot. Unplayable.
• Super Bases Loaded 2 USA - O3DS & N3DS: I get an ARM 11 exception occurred Error after booting the game. Unplayable.
• Super Black Bass USA - O3DS & N3DS: Black Screen after you boot the game. Unplayable.
• Super Formation Soccer 94 JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a match in Exhibition mode. Some Background Graphics from the Field are missing.
• Super Formation Soccer 94 - World Cup Final Data JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a match in Exhibition mode. Some Background Graphics from the Field are missing.
• Super Formation Soccer 95 - della Serie A JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a match in Exhibition mode. Some Background Graphics from the Field are missing.
• Super Formation Soccer 95 - della Serie A - UCC Club Edition JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a match in Exhibition mode. Some Background Graphics from the Field are missing.
• Super Formation Soccer 96 - World Club Edition JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a match in Exhibition mode. Some Background Graphics from the Field are missing.
• Super Goal! 2 USA - O3DS & N3DS: Both Soccer Teams are invisible.
• Super Turrican EUR & JAP & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Level. Missing background gradients. Can partly be fixed with Palette changes set to Disabled Style 1.
• Tactics Ogre - Let Us Cling Together (V1.2) JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Warrens Portrait in the Tutorial is messed up. Sometimes the Character Portrait in the Story mode are messed up. Can be fixed with Palette changes set to Enabled. Causes Slowdown.
• Takeda Nobuhiro no Super League Soccer JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a game. Both Soccer Teams are invisible.
• Taz-Mania EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Act. Flickering on the Mode 7 Level.
• Timon & Pumbaa´s Jungle Games EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: Some GFX Glitches on the Menu Screen and during gameplay. You can fix this with Palette Changes set to Enabled. Causes Slowdown though.

• Tintin in Tibet EUR - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Level. The roof of the Railroad cars flicker a bit while moving around.
• Tokimeki Memorial - Densetsu no Ki no Shita de (V1.1) JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Messed up text in the Textbar.
• Top Gear EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played a race. Road textures are bugged.
• Top Gear 2 EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played a race. Road textures are bugged.
• Top Gear 3000 EUR & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played a race. Road textures are bugged. The Game is unstable. Crashes are possible.
• Top Racer JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a race. Road textures are bugged.
• Top Racer 2 JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I played a race. Road textures are bugged.
• Traverse - Starlight & Prairie JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I walked around Town. Some flickering in the Bar, while moving around.
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• Wakataka Oozumou - Yume no Kyodai Taiketsu JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I fought a battle. There is some line flickering on Screen.
• Wicked 18 Golf USA - O3DS & N3DS: The Game takes very long to get to the Titlescreen.
• World Class Rugby EUR - O3DS & N3DS: I played a match. Glitched up Stadium.
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• Xardion EUR - O3DS & N3DS: Very much glitched up. Unplayable.
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• Yamato Takeru JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I walked around the Village. Color Changes when moving around.
• Yuu Yuu Hakusho JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I fought a battle. Some Glitches on the Characters Faces.
• Yuu Yuu Hakusho - Tokubetsu Hen JAP - O3DS & N3DS: I fought a battle. Some Glitches on the Characters Faces.
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• Zennihon Pro Wrestling JAP - O3DS & N3DS: Glitches on Screen after boot.
• Zombies EUR - O3DS & N3DS: I noticed some flickering while moving around.
• Zombies Ate My Neighbors USA - O3DS & N3DS: I noticed some flickering while moving around.

BS-X/ Satellaview Games:

BS Radical Dreamer: O3DS & N3DS: The Text is missing.
BS Super Mahjong Taikai: O3DS & N3DS: The KOEI Logo has some glitches.
BS Treasure Conflix: O3DS & N3DS: The Text is missing.
BS Waiwai Check 3-7: O3DS & N3DS: Heavy Glitches on Screen. Unplayable.

 

[8BitWonder]

*removed quote to trashed post*
What's wrong with picodrive from RA? I've been using it on 3DS with no problems.

 

[Billy Acuña]

What's wrong with picodrive from RA? I've been using it on 3DS with no problems.

Retroarch's Picodrive on o3ds is ok, but in some games has outstanding slowdowns (ex. Mortal Kombat).

 

[8BitWonder]

Retroarch's Picodrive on o3ds is ok, but in some games has outstanding slowdowns (ex. Mortal Kombat).

Ah, i wasn't aware. Probably doesn't help that I've only used it on n3ds.

 

[DominoBright]

• Cool Spot - EUR & JAP & USA - O3DS & N3DS: I played the first Level. The Numbers in the Timer are glitched up.

The numbers look fine when In-Frame Palette Changes are set to Enabled or Disabled Style 1. On the latter, the background looks different. Then again, I'm using the US version.

 

[AutumnWolf]

@bubble2k16, I did some testing with Snes9x for 3DS Version Version 1.21 the last weeks. Below is a list of bugs/glitches I want to show you:

• Clock Tower JAP - O3DS & N3DS: The Character Portrait are glitched up and flicker.

Did you have palette changes enabled?

 

[Deleted User]

Did you have palette changes enabled?

Ah nice! No haven´t! Thanks for letting me know. I will retest the games with different Palette Styles and update the wiki!

 

[bubble2k16]

Ah nice! No haven´t! Thanks for letting me know. I will retest the games with different Palette Styles and update the wiki!

Thanks a lot for the hardwork in updating the compatibility list.

Some of the racing games uses in-frame palette changes to draw the lane dividers on the roads. But the hardware renderer for this port will never be able to handle that unfortunately.

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@bubble2k16
I have missing audio troubles when I am playing Earthworm Jim 2 with snes9x last release.
That can be checked easily when game is starting on main title when Jim is playing accordeon, or in game when he is shooting with particular guns or when Jim is using Snott after we press "B" button after jumping. We don't hear also "Groovy" when he is taking a life in a level.
I didn't get this issue with first Earthworm Jim.
Is it possible to have a look to this issue ?

Hmm... From what I understand, Earthworm Jim 2 streams music into the SPC700 chip. I guess there's a lot of precise timing involved. And the fact that we've detached the SPC700 sound emulation into a separate parallel thread in order to make this Snes9x port run full speed on an old 3DS, means that the synchronization between the main CPU and the sound generation will be off ... if that makes sense.

Ok to summarize, it's going to be tough to fix this.

 

[Deleted User]

Thanks a lot for the hardwork in updating the compatibility list.

Some of the racing games uses in-frame palette changes to draw the lane dividers on the roads. But the hardware renderer for this port will never be able to handle that unfortunately.

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Hmm... From what I understand, Earthworm Jim 2 streams music into the SPC700 chip. I guess there's a lot of precise timing involved. And the fact that we've detached the SPC700 sound emulation into a separate parallel thread in order to make this Snes9x port run full speed on an old 3DS, means that the synchronization between the main CPU and the sound generation will be off ... if that makes sense.

Ok to summarize, it's going to be tough to fix this.

I thought so. The Palette Errors go back to Version 0.50 at least.

I believe this Sound Issue occurs in Secret of Evermore as well.

 

[tedmg091309131]

Is the sfx2 chip completely emulated or is it only limited emulation with the math being done by the 3ds natively?

 

[bubble2k16]

Is the sfx2 chip completely emulated or is it only limited emulation with the math being done by the 3ds natively?

Yes it is. It plays Yoshi's Island quite well (albeit with some minor graphical glitches. Winter's Gold works too.

Doom 2 is too slow to run even on the 3DS.

Edit: I meant for the New 3DSes. Old 3DS is too slow to emulate Super FX.

 

[kane159]

@bubble2k16
any news about fixing TMZ chinese patch?

 

[bubble2k16]

@bubble2k16
any news about fixing TMZ chinese patch?

No luck. The Invalid access patch you pointed me to doesn't work on Snes9x v1.43. So I'm not sure what is the problem...

 

[kane159]

No luck. The Invalid access patch you pointed me to doesn't work on Snes9x v1.43. So I'm not sure what is the problem...

dont know will this help, but that patched rom works perfect in this emu for psp
https://github.com/esmjanus/snes9xTYL/releases
maybe u can look into it when u have some time?

 

[coinblock]

@bubble2k16 I realize that you are probably quite busy right now... But if you find time later, would you consider experimenting with adding the blargSNES audio emulation or another, more accurate option to this as an option on N3DS - like how your Picodrive port has improved audio for N3DS users?

 

[tiezi]

V3 partch Tengai Makyou Zero https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3243/ work on Snes9x 1.21 ?

 

[bubble2k16]

@bubble2k16 I realize that you are probably quite busy right now... But if you find time later, would you consider experimenting with adding the blargSNES audio emulation or another, more accurate option to this as an option on N3DS - like how your Picodrive port has improved audio for N3DS users?

Hmm... The PicoDrive port only uses a different sampling rate for Old/New 3DSes. This sounds like swapping out a new core for the emulator. I'm not likely to do this though... is the current Snes9x sound that bad?

V3 partch Tengai Makyou Zero https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3243/ work on Snes9x 1.21 ?

Not for now I guess, since the current v1.21 only supports Version 1.0 of the patch. I can look into this if I have some time. But it's probably going to be after I settle some issues PicoDrive first.

 

[coinblock]

Hmm... The PicoDrive port only uses a different sampling rate for Old/New 3DSes. This sounds like swapping out a new core for the emulator. I'm not likely to do this though... is the current Snes9x sound that bad?

The sound is great for most games, but some have sounds that are "off" from the original, like the charge beam SFX in Super Metroid.

 

[Deleted User]

@bubble2k16 I tested the BS-X/ Satellaview Games with the Snes9x Version 1.21.
I posted the more important results in my Review post on page 103 of this Thread.

 

[billol25]

@bubble2k16 Would it be possible a fast-forward always active?
Tnks