Hacking System Menu questions/thoughts

[OSW]

Yeah hemmm...

The menu loader clone, menu patcher and all those craps allow backup running through disk channel when u load the system menu using IOS249.

Either WiiBlaster did something wrong, or the program doesn't work, or it's not as simple as we thought...

EDIT:

All i can say is that its definitely running off of IOS249 and i notice no difference at all nothing.

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wait I just stuck in wii music burned and it now asking for a update let me install starfall real quick and i'll see it will play

huh? so a backup is working?

 

[WiiBlaster]

let me install it real quick cause wii music is asking for a update, This just might work

 

[Tichinde925]

Yeah hemmm...

The menu loader clone, menu patcher and all those craps allow backup running through disk channel when u load the system menu using IOS249.

Either WiiBlaster did something wrong, or the program doesn't work, or it's not as simple as we thought...

Read his previous post, Wii Music burned is asking for an update.

He did it correctly, because touching the System Menu causes Starfall to be uninstalled. And since its a backup, its being read.

 

[WiiBlaster]

I used starfall to block the update, The wii music ICON shows up in the Disc Channel but when i try to play it i get a Error occurred

 

[Tichinde925]

Try a different disc.

EDIT:

Wait, a different solution!

Try using the plain old GeckoOS to launch the game. (lol, it might be back to using a loader...)

P.P.S.

If it does happen to work, its still going to run at 3X Speed right?

 

[WiiBlaster]

well I tried a few different games none of the others will even show up in the Disc channel But Wii Music, But i'll try though Geckos,

 

[Tichinde925]

Before giving up all hope, do a clean reboot.

Turn off the Wii, and turn it back on.

 

[WiiBlaster]

well geckos was a no go. any or benfits from having IOS249 System menu, cause i dont think its going to play backups, Close but still a no go, If anyone whats to test it out also, Just PM me

 

[OSW]

If it does happen to work, its still going to run at 3X Speed right?

Yes it will still run at 3x

Infact, originals might run only at 3x too... im not sure.

The advantage i see to this is brick protection (if we can autoboot discs using the recovery menu, we cant know if this works yet), and backup launching through disk channel without using menuloader.

Of course we could then use menuloader to reboot the system menu back to a normal IOS for other purposes

Wii music banner showing is something positive at least.

 

[Tichinde925]

One last request:

Patch IOS30 to use IOS249

I do not fully understand how IOS30 is being used by the System Menu, but if this doesnt work, then I guess we can let other people take over.

You may or may not have to reinstall Starfall all over again, I am not sure.

EDIT:

If it works, then we are going to have to reinstall IOS30 again but under a different IOS #. That way Menuloader could be used to patch the system menu to that IOS# to run original games / do other functions.

 

[WiiBlaster]

even if i did patch the IOS30 to IOS249 i'm pretty sure i would get the same results, Does anyone know exactly what the menu patcher exactly patches before i log off i'm going to see how it play originals real quick, I'm going to try Wario i know the videos in it play like crap.lol

Edit-Well the Wario Land ORG Wii game stills plays like it should videos in all

 

[Tichinde925]

It should say how its patched in the source, though I cant understand that language

 

[WiiBlaster]

well i really hate to say it but i dont think this is going to work, But heres what i know
I got wii music banner to show up and play its music and Banner when i enterd the Disc channel
Starfall i can still install it, and Org Wii Games play like they always did, Other than that i see no difference running the IOS249 CIOS rev 7 than i did run it was running IOS30, But Atleast I can Say I didn't brick.lol I was really worried about that when i installed it.lol I was almost sure it was going to brick, Well The Idea has Been Tested. and i'm really getting tried it 2:09 AM here So Good night

 

[Tichinde925]

Well good morning

I'm still interested in what happens when you patch IOS30 to use IOS249

Who knows, we dont know what the menu patcher patches exactly, but we know it patches the system menu and the system menu does use IOS30...

Perhaps you patched the systemmenu to IOS249, its able to see backups, but the backups wont run due to IOS30 not being patched to IOS249.

Well we will figure all of this out fully later on.

 

[WiiBlaster]

Before i log off, I just do this make sure the System Menu was running off of IOS249
i went into Anytitle deleter in my system titles and it let me remove the IOS30, i tried to see if i could delete IOS249 but its now saying that IOS is being used by the System. So thats all the prof i need

 

[wolffangalchemist]

so it reads backups but can't launch them?
did you try using the other 2 cios made from ios37 and or ios55 as 249 to see if maybe they let backups launch?

 

[breakdaze]

hey, IOS249 has a DIP patch to allow MenuPatcher 1.0 and Gamma to work. Since the SystemMenu doesn't use an IOS to do this, why should patching it to use IOS249 work?

The System Menu would need to be permanently patched with a MenuPatcher also.

Obvious, no?

That's all, thanks, good night.

 

[OSW]

Tichinde925 - I don't get how you can patch an IOS to use another IOS...

breakdaze - "The SystemMenu doesn't use an IOS" to do what exactly?
It does sound like you know what you are talking about, but it doesn't really make clear sense to me, so i hope you can rephrase it.

 

[djtaz]

Before i log off, I just do this make sure the System Menu was running off of IOS249
i went into Anytitle deleter in my system titles and it let me remove the IOS30, i tried to see if i could delete IOS249 but its now saying that IOS is being used by the System. So thats all the prof i need

Deleting ios30 is a brave move - very easy to brick a wii that way :S

 

[ether2802]

Well I'm up now, and I just came to tell you, what you've already find out

I thought about it in my sleep and I knew it can't brick the Wii (I was like 75% sure) and I knew it wasn't going to work the way we expected about the backups (100% sure) cause is the launcher the one forcing the disc to be readen by IOS249, if we normaly use IOS30, any game wants to be readen by IOS36 - IOS33 - IOS35 and so on, with this is the same thing, we need an IOS supporting the SysMenu and telling him at te same time that any DVD has to be readen by IOS249 (cIOS36_r7), you all know I don't know anything about coding (beyond the hello world example) but this was what it make sense to me last night....!!!