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The Israel and Palestine conflict
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Why would you expect people to "get better" with age?
You guys clutch pearls with your isms and handle being called out disgracefully. What are we to learn from you? Can't you just say,"yeah you're right, age isn't really the factor here."
Unless you believe it is the factor, then be honest about that.
They are called "the winners" and history always favors them because they have the power to write it and educate you.
But we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent
Snark aside, I agree with you.
As for the Civil War, we get the slavery angle thrown down our necks in school, but like any war the real reason for the North's determination to force the South to its knees was .... follow the money. The people who were really getting rich off the cotton being grown in the US South were in NYC and London. Most of that cotton was shipped to England to make clothes, i.e. the industrial revolution. Of course England had already banned slavery, but it didn't mind buying and profiting off its work product one little bit.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I fully am opposed to attacks against civilians in all wars, not just this current one. There is no way to support this shit and not sound like a massive asshole.
Do you think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were good for humanity? Or even necessary?
ehhh, we had that thread already. Recently.
I actually lived in Hiroshima for two years, and I've been to Nagasaki several times. If that's the sum total of WWII to you, particularly from the perspective of the toll in civilian lives, you need to learn more about it. The Japanese earned how that war was finished. And I don't try to second guess the judgment of the people who lived it.
Didn't mean it that way. But some understanding of what the Japanese did in China and all over SE Asia, and what the Germans did in Poland, the USSR, and etc. ... literally millions of civilian dead ... is necessary context to understanding the retribution they were dealt.
I already posted, in that thread, several other considerations on how to handle the war. The bomb solution was "sold", even via direct lies and lies of omission; not justified. In retrospect, it is what happened and discourse won't change that (at least I don't think). If you are in a habit of rationalizing the past on how it happened, then yeah, we all get what we deserve.
At least mrmcdude showed the same consistency as he does now. I'm sure that if tables were ever turned, that he wouldn't object to paying for the "justice" obliged by his country's leadership and the mooks that followed. Shout-out to @mikefor20 for that word.
Except that you do, or at least did. I'm paraphrasing, but you mentioned a scenario where you disagreed with locals who said,"aren't you sorry?".
At least mrmcdude showed the same consistency as he does now. I'm sure that if tables were ever turned, that he wouldn't object to paying for the "justice" obliged by his country's leadership and the mooks that followed. Shout-out to @mikefor20 for that word.
Some people double down and say "two eyes for your eye, because you started it (though maybe I did, not sure, don't care)."
Except that you do, or at least did. I'm paraphrasing, but you mentioned a scenario where you disagreed with locals who said,"aren't you sorry?".
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Good memory. You're talking about this post:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/on-this...-nagasaki-ending-the-war.637739/post-10227508
As I said there, and as I said above in this thread, I didn't "disagree" with anyone, I just told them I don't try to second guess the judgment of the people who lived it.
But it is pretty obvious that if you don't want to become an eventual victim of war, you probably shouldn't launch one. That's a separate issue from the 'whether Hiroshima&Nagasaki were necessary or justified,' question though.
I saw the "disagreement" in the sentiment. Do you think that civilians truly had a hand in launching the war? Are they responsible because of their race or their geopolitical proximity? Governments claim people without their consent. The US isn't an exception.
I don't have a second account, I am not afraid to post as myself and certainly not cowardly like some on here are that I would need to use a puppet account.
As for more Hamas being able to be told to "Stop it" and they will say "OK - my bad bro" and that will be the end of all the violence.... nope they will never stop until they are all dead or captured.
Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel: Since 2001 they have launched 10's thousands of rockets into Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
In other news, it seems Israel just can't catch a break - it's being targetted from all sides:
Hezbollah claims anti-tank missile attack from Lebanon critically wounding Israeli civilians:
Yemen’s Houthis say they launched ballistic missiles, drones at Israel:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...down-aerial-target-near-red-sea-city-of-eilat
Eilat school was hit by drone fired from Syria, IDF says as it strikes back:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-strikes-syria-in-response-to-drone-attack-on-eilat-school/
Then you have US in the region being attacked at over 40 times in the last month by those symapthetic to wiping Israel of the face of the earth:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/10/us-troops-attacked-in-iraq-2
It's quite obvious from some of the peace loving hippies on this forum that they have zero clue about war or what goes on in terrorists heads (mind you these hive mind lefty type clones can barely even think for themselves). They have no idea about the enemies of Israel and what their objectives are. They have no idea that peace is usually always earned through spilled blood and sacrifice (and by killing all your enemies).
Anyway I'll leave it hear for now, until there are more major developments in this war as Irsael are doing a good job of kicking the ass of Hamas and are wiping them out on a daily basis.
Mrdude is all in on war where Hanafuda is trying to make sense of it after the fact.
I can almost understand his behavior if it was on a racist forum or white supremacist/fascist/BLM/Islamist.But here on gbatemp? I mean our boss costello is a fricking animal lover.His attitude is not welcomed here.
Except by his own admission, blocks people that clown on him and his racism hard.
This is actually a good point, however, the election interference we've observed since 2020 is also true.
The Republican Party did not raise Trump up to be their champion. Trump fought against them more than he fought against Democrats while in office, scoring only a few legislative wins while Republicans controlled Congress.
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It's easy to say because groups like Antifa and BLM support the pro-Hamas groups and are actually a lot of the same people.
Both sides have committed atrocities. The Jews have been in that area of the world for over 3,000 years. Palestinians are colonizers and need to either live in peace, or move to any of the Arab countries who refuse to take them in.The truth is that Israel is doing some terrible shit and justifying it by claiming self-defense. Not sure how many innocent lives need to be taken before this stops being justified as self-defense, though...
I've been here a decade longer than either one of you. And there is no "second account."
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