Trump personally pressured Justice Department officials to declare that the election was corrupt

[The Catboy]

My point was guns and ammo are transported in planes & on trucks via fedex, UPS, USPS all the same they go make you pick them up in person in a gun shop so they can CHECK YOUR ID AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE LEGALLY ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE.

It should be the same rules for voting.

And you need an ID for mail-in votes, that’s been explained to you in this thread. Also, this still isn’t evidence for widespread voter fraud, why haven’t provided any evidence?

Side note, always makes me chuckle how the so called party of small government actively wants the government to impose itself more and more on people's business and rights. So weird, isn't it?

“Small government” from the same party that wants to limit rights for women, LGBT+, mail-in votes, disabled people, POC, non-Christian, etc.

 

[Goku1992A]

Yes I voted fro Trump but he really need to let it go

 

[jimbo13]

That's a 100% valid opinion to hold, and with some nuance, not one I entirely disagree with.

That doesn't mean that mail in votes are fraudulent though.

Side note, always makes me chuckle how the so called party of small government actively wants the government to impose itself more and more on people's business and rights. So weird, isn't it?

I think synergy between gun laws and voting laws demonstrates a non-partisan fairness and makes things consistent.

How easy does it need to be for someone to exercise a right,
Do they need to be 18?
Do they need to be free of felony convictions?
Do they need to present ID?
Do they need to go in person?

Real tolerant of the minutia there when someones being honest and consistent and it is an easy way to tell.

I don't have much of an issue with mail-in ballots, plenty of states have done it reasonably and it can be done securely.

I object to the time and manner it was implemented in 2020 in the midst of a pandemic, in some cases outside of normal procedures and lacking the typical public examination and consider it fraudulent.

I am sports better, when I bet on a fight if there is the smallest change in the rules between the time I place my bet and the commencement of the fight the bet is voided and refunded.

 

[The Catboy]

I think synergy between gun laws and voting laws demonstrates a non-partisan fairness and makes things consistent.

How easy does it need to be for someone to exercise a right,
Do they need to be 18?
Do they need to be free of felony convictions?
Do they need to present ID?
Do they need to go in person?

Real tolerant of the minutia there when someones being honest and consistent and it is an easy way to tell.

I don't have much of an issue with mail-in ballots, plenty of states have done it reasonably and it can be done securely.

I object to the time and manner it was implemented in 2020 in the midst of a pandemic, in some cases outside of normal procedures and lacking the typical public examination and consider it fraudulent.

I am sports better, when I bet on a fight if there is the smallest change in the rules between the time I place my bet and the commencement of the fight the bet is voided and refunded.

I think there’s synergy between you and the lack of sources for widespread voter fraud

 

[jimbo13]

I think there’s synergy between you and the lack of sources for widespread voter fraud

I've never used the qualifier your projecting, crimes don't need to be wide spread to pass laws to discourage and prevent them.

 

[Lacius]

I've never used the qualifier your projecting, crimes don't need to be wide spread to pass laws to discourage and prevent them.

Isn't it more important for it to be easier to vote than for it to be harder to vote in order to curb imaginary voter fraud?

 

[The Catboy]

I've never used the qualifier your projecting, crimes don't need to be wide spread to pass laws to discourage and prevent them.

Don't move the goalpost. You made claims of widespread voter fraud and have yet to provide proof of widespread voter fraud. Why make laws for a problem that you can't even prove exists in the first place?

 

[Sicklyboy]

Don't move the goalpost. You made claims of widespread voter fraud and have yet to provide proof of widespread voter fraud. Why make laws for a problem that you can't even prove exists in the first place?

Right? Since it seems to be such a major issue, there must be credible, verifiable, tangible documentation of such a thing happening. Crazy how I can't seem to find anything that fits that bill

I've never used the qualifier your projecting, crimes don't need to be wide spread to pass laws to discourage and prevent them.

Wait, so there was no widespread voter fraud?

 

[The Catboy]

Right? Since it seems to be such a major issue, there must be credible, verifiable, tangible documentation of such a thing happening. Crazy how I can't seem to find anything that fits that bill

It's weird how there was an apparent nationwide conspiracy to overthrow an election through mass voter fraud and yet no evidence? It's weird how such a massive conspiracy is so well organized and yet has no trace of it happening. It's almost like mass conspiracies like this simply can't exist in the real world because the evidence would be overwhelming if it did and the reality is, it never happened

 

[SG854]

This is all the evidence for wide spread voter fraud






























.

 

[KingVamp]

Well, it is August. Who's ready to see Trump not become president again?

 

[jimbo13]

“Small government” from the same party that wants to limit rights for women, LGBT+, mail-in votes, disabled people, POC, non-Christian, etc.

Where's your sources?

 

[Lacius]

Well, it is August. Who's ready to see Trump not become president again?

Considering his electoral loss, his lawsuit losses, etc., I didn't think it was possible to see one loser lose so much.

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Where's your sources?

The Republican Party broadly favors everything @Lilith Valentine mentioned, and most if not all of what was mentioned is in their party platform.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

The question should be "Why wouldn't Trump personally pressure the Justice Department".

 

[jimbo13]

Right? Since it seems to be such a major issue, there must be credible, verifiable, tangible documentation of such a thing happening. Crazy how I can't seem to find anything that fits that bill



Wait, so there was no widespread voter fraud?

Does it need to be widespread to tilt an election?

The Republican Party broadly favors everything mentioned, and most if not all of what was mentioned is in their party platform.

No it doesn't, it's late and you need a nappy.

 

[Lacius]

Does it need to be widespread to tilt an election?

Generally speaking, yes. By some definitions, that's what it means to be widespread.

No it doesn't

Yes, it does. As one example, the Republican Party platform condemns marriage equality, it condemns anti-discrimination policies protecting LGBT people, and it endorses the trans military ban.

 

[The Catboy]

Where's your sources?

LGBT+, refer to the multiple anti-LGBT+ laws started, backed, and signed by mostly Republicans
https://www.aclu.org/legislation-affecting-lgbt-rights-across-country
Women’s rights, refer to multiple anti-abortion bills specifically targeting women and never men
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States_by_state
Mail-in votes, this thread
Disabled people, Republican platform is against “government handouts,” which greatly effects disabled people
POC, Republicans are very much against CRT
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1267161
https://www.wpr.org/republican-bills-would-limit-how-race-racism-are-taught-wisconsin
There’s also the massive anti-Asian campaign primarily pushed by Trump and followed by most of his followers. Source, the rising anti-Asian hate crimes
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1260264
Non-Christians, the vast majority of Republicans are literally pushing for Christian laws and are Evangelicals or appease the Evangelicals. The vast majority of the anti-LGBT laws are either done for Evangelicals or backed by them.
I actually provide sources because I am not some egotist. The links provided do provide additional resources and references. And now I wait for you to move the goalpost and pretend you are right and know everything, while providing no sources to disprove what I’ve posted.

 

[jimbo13]

Considering his electoral loss, his lawsuit losses, etc., I didn't think it was possible to see one loser lose so much.

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The Republican Party broadly favors everything @Lilith Valentine mentioned, and most if not all of what was mentioned is in their party platform.[/QUOTE]

Generally speaking, yes. By some definitions, that's what it means to be widespread.


Yes, it does. As one example, the Republican Party platform condemns marriage equality, it condemns anti-discrimination policies protecting LGBT people, and it endorses the trans military ban.

Unfortunately your correct about marriage equality in the platform, don't support it and neither did Trump.

Forcing someone to bake you cake is not a right and the Military has numerous medical conditions that disqualify you from service.

 

[The Catboy]

Forcing someone to bake you cake is not a right and the Military has numerous medical conditions that disqualify you from service.

I find it interesting that you always try to find find different ways to control the conversation instead of providing evidence for your claims. You still haven’t provided any evidence to back up your previous claims of mass voter fraud.

The question should be "Why wouldn't Trump personally pressure the Justice Department".

Why would Trump need to? He’s already making a bigger ass of himself by trying to continue this moronic campaign around his own conspiracy of “mass voter fraud.” He and everyone who believes in the “mass voter fraud” conspiracy, have yet to provide legitimate proof of it ever happening.

 

[JayPea]

@jimbo13 Would you like to buy some magic beans?