Hacking up to 4.x exploitable, but lower firmware is better

[OctolingRift]

And you have to tell that to every roommate, every time they change. And you have to tell that to every guest of every roommate, even those you haven't met. The roommate could bring over a friend, a girlfriend, a random person from the bar. They might update. Or the roommate could forget this. If the roommate is drunk, on drugs, or even just distracted and happy from sex, they may forget an update. I had an expensive limited edition beer go missing. My roomate didn't steal it. But one of the people they invited over during a party stole that beer. That person didn't even know the beer was special. They accidentally stole an $11, can't even be bought in that state, 18%, very limited beer. If they had known that, they probably would have taken a normal beer, but they were drunk and ignorant about this.

Plus, for lots of people, those roommates are fucking children. Children don't understand this so well.

It would take Nintendo not very long at all to fix this problem properly. I don't want to buy a Switch at all until it was cloud saves, theft protection, parental controls, and other features to ensure its safety.

Or you can tell them not to use it and put a note on it.

 

[Deleted-368796]

*removed*
pointless to argue about this

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Not true. The child could add a new internet connection. The new one may be unrestricted, allowing access to porn, violence, child predators, etc. This stuff used to be locked. Nintendo thought it was a good idea to lock it previously. They just got lazy with the switch.

How are you going to access porn or violence without a browser, and predators when the chat is locked to the phone app and for friends list only. Again your points don't correlate to the argument you are making.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

There aren't any good games to buy right now, besides Odyssey, and some Wii U ports if you didn't already buy those on Wii U. I want piracy so I can get games like Monopoly, Just Dance, NBA2k, ie, games that aren't worth buying. I want to pirate Mario Kart 8 Deluxe because I already bought 2 copies of regular and not buying a third.

If you think a game isn't worth buying then it shouldn't be worth playing either.

 

[Jacklack3]

If you think a game isn't worth buying then it shouldn't be worth playing either.

There's a lot of games which everyone loves but I don't think is worth buying, then when I do buy it I love it.

 

[Slartibartfast42]

Then look at the post above yours. DNS blocking, use router settings to block the update servers. Make a parental lock with a password, do something. Running around flailing your arms in a panic over what could or couldn't happen won't solve jack shit. Either you follow our suggestions that we're trying to help you with, or you're on your own. We can only suggest so much, but if you don't follow through, that's on you. We're just trying to help. What more do you want? A magic button that automatically stops updates? It's called a router and DNS blocking.

You clearly got the Switch for the wrong reasons, "only a few good games" is only your subjective opinion. There are more games that are good that you claim to be, you just want a reason to pirate. Fine. But if you don't at least consider our suggestions on blocking updates, you're on your own.

Holy hell, sounds like entitlement to me, you got the Switch for all the wrong reasons.

I don't even own a Switch yet, mostly because I can't afford it now, but also because I am waiting to see if they make any good Paper Mario and what not. All I have right now is my 5-year-old nephew switch. DNS blocking would be ineffective, because one of these days, his mother, his father, his soon to be step father, his uncle, or anyone else could decide to connect it to their network. So I can't protect his Switch. I know you guys can't help me more than that, but you could sympathize with me that I am theoretically right. As for myself, I'm not sure if I ever will get a Switch. If I do, I don't know the state of the hacking at the time. I might have to buy a used system that was kept on older firmware. The more aggressive Nintendo is, the rarer and more expensive these will be. At a certain point, I may just say fuck it, and not buy a switch at all. I don't want that to happen. I know that if I take a long break from Nintendo waiting for game prices to come down or whatever, I will never come back. I just barely want to play these games at all. Truth is I don't like Nintendo games that much anymore. I hold onto hope that I will start liking them more, that they will get better again. Why is it so hard to just say, I agree, updates should be parental control restricted. That's all I'm really asking. You can't help me get the joy back. You can't protect my console. But you can say I am right.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

This^ Everyone should stop being so ass blasted. It's like they work for Nintendo themselves or some shit

I don't think it's piracy people are upset about, more the fact that people in this thread have stated that they won't buy a switch until there is piracy, because it's not worth it otherwise. Because that's just a terrible way of thinking.

 

[the_randomizer]

1. Leave Switch at home.
2. Roommate turns WiFi back on.
3. Roommate updates because they don't know better.
4. Pirated games stop working
5. Be unable to copy save file from pirated game to a legitimate copy.
6. Lose 60 hours of progress.
7. Never even finish the game because you don't want to start over.
8 Be so upset you quit Nintendo entirely, never buying another Nintendo console.
9. Realize that they already enabled forced updates with no legitimate way to disable it back on the Wii U, and they can do it at any time again on the Switch.

This entire thing could be prevented by just putting a fucking password on the update.

Damned if you do damned if you don't, either use the DNS blocking method, or put your big boy pants on and accept that fact you can't protect the Switch from ever being updated without you being there. Just what in the bloody hell do you expect us to do? We're trying to offer suggestions and all you're doing is pissing and moaning like an impotent customer. Oh so you can't play pirated software? Well, BFD. You can either have online, or no online, and still get hacks, and maybe eventually "backup" loading.


Just buy a second damn Switch. Sell some games you don't need or want and get another console and hide it. You really don't have any other choice.

 

[Jacklack3]

I don't even own a Switch yet, mostly because I can't afford it now, but also because I am waiting to see if they make any good Paper Mario and what not. All I have right now is my 5-year-old nephew switch. DNS blocking would be ineffective, because one of these days, his mother, his father, his soon to be step father, his uncle, or anyone else could decide to connect it to their network. So I can't protect his Switch. I know you guys can't help me more than that, but you could sympathize with me that I am theoretically right. As for myself, I'm not sure if I ever will get a Switch. If I do, I don't know the state of the hacking at the time. I might have to buy a used system that was kept on older firmware. The more aggressive Nintendo is, the rarer and more expensive these will be. At a certain point, I may just say fuck it, and not buy a switch at all. I don't want that to happen. I know that if I take a long break from Nintendo waiting for game prices to come down or whatever, I will never come back. I just barely want to play these games at all. Truth is I don't like Nintendo games that much anymore. I hold onto hope that I will start liking them more, that they will get better again. Why is it so hard to just say, I agree, updates should be parental control restricted. That's all I'm really asking. You can't help me get the joy back. You can't protect my console. But you can say I am right.

Wait you're trying to hack your 5 year old nephew's switch so you can get free games to play?
greatest uncle ever

 

[the_randomizer]

I don't even own a Switch yet, mostly because I can't afford it now, but also because I am waiting to see if they make any good Paper Mario and what not. All I have right now is my 5-year-old nephew switch. DNS blocking would be ineffective, because one of these days, his mother, his father, his soon to be step father, his uncle, or anyone else could decide to connect it to their network. So I can't protect his Switch. I know you guys can't help me more than that, but you could sympathize with me that I am theoretically right. As for myself, I'm not sure if I ever will get a Switch. If I do, I don't know the state of the hacking at the time. I might have to buy a used system that was kept on older firmware. The more aggressive Nintendo is, the rarer and more expensive these will be. At a certain point, I may just say fuck it, and not buy a switch at all. I don't want that to happen. I know that if I take a long break from Nintendo waiting for game prices to come down or whatever, I will never come back. I just barely want to play these games at all. Truth is I don't like Nintendo games that much anymore. I hold onto hope that I will start liking them more, that they will get better again. Why is it so hard to just say, I agree, updates should be parental control restricted. That's all I'm really asking. You can't help me get the joy back. You can't protect my console. But you can say I am right.

You're on your own, I'm not going to agree or disagree on how updates should be handled, but holy shit, dude, cut the dose on your Adderall. We can't help you if you're not willing to heed our advice. It's not even your console, so, really, he should be able to decide what he does, not you.

How f*cking low are you, by doing this?

 

[TheCyberQuake]

I don't even own a Switch yet, mostly because I can't afford it now, but also because I am waiting to see if they make any good Paper Mario and what not. All I have right now is my 5-year-old nephew switch. DNS blocking would be ineffective, because one of these days, his mother, his father, his soon to be step father, his uncle, or anyone else could decide to connect it to their network. So I can't protect his Switch. I know you guys can't help me more than that, but you could sympathize with me that I am theoretically right. As for myself, I'm not sure if I ever will get a Switch. If I do, I don't know the state of the hacking at the time. I might have to buy a used system that was kept on older firmware. The more aggressive Nintendo is, the rarer and more expensive these will be. At a certain point, I may just say fuck it, and not buy a switch at all. I don't want that to happen. I know that if I take a long break from Nintendo waiting for game prices to come down or whatever, I will never come back. I just barely want to play these games at all. Truth is I don't like Nintendo games that much anymore. I hold onto hope that I will start liking them more, that they will get better again. Why is it so hard to just say, I agree, updates should be parental control restricted. That's all I'm really asking. You can't help me get the joy back. You can't protect my console. But you can say I am right.

No I cant sympathize. That just makes you look like a terrible uncle. It's not even your switch, if the kid or his parents want to update they should be able to. You want to take control of a system that you don't even own. If it were your own switch then maybe. But you have no right to be butthurt about a device you don't even own

 

[Jacklack3]

I don't even own a Switch yet, mostly because I can't afford it now, but also because I am waiting to see if they make any good Paper Mario and what not. All I have right now is my 5-year-old nephew switch. DNS blocking would be ineffective, because one of these days, his mother, his father, his soon to be step father, his uncle, or anyone else could decide to connect it to their network. So I can't protect his Switch. I know you guys can't help me more than that, but you could sympathize with me that I am theoretically right. As for myself, I'm not sure if I ever will get a Switch. If I do, I don't know the state of the hacking at the time. I might have to buy a used system that was kept on older firmware. The more aggressive Nintendo is, the rarer and more expensive these will be. At a certain point, I may just say fuck it, and not buy a switch at all. I don't want that to happen. I know that if I take a long break from Nintendo waiting for game prices to come down or whatever, I will never come back. I just barely want to play these games at all. Truth is I don't like Nintendo games that much anymore. I hold onto hope that I will start liking them more, that they will get better again. Why is it so hard to just say, I agree, updates should be parental control restricted. That's all I'm really asking. You can't help me get the joy back. You can't protect my console. But you can say I am right.

Okay so lemme get this straight.

You are trying to hack your 5 year old nephew's switch, expect no one to notice, and are not doing it for the nephew, but for you?

Not even asking permission?

 

[Slartibartfast42]

If you think a game isn't worth buying then it shouldn't be worth playing either.

That's ridiculous. It's about price. A gold plated hotdog with caviar is worth eating, but it isn't worth $100. Might pay $10. Monopoly isn't worth $40, or even $20, but is worth $5. I want to try NBA2k for a few times, see if I can learn it. I won't ever play it enough to be worth asking price. I don't like sports that much. I just want to prove to myself that I'm capable of doing it. Something like Mario Party is worth playing the first time, but then will likely never actually be played again. You could argue that I could rent games, but the RedBox doesn't do that, would need GameFly, that's more renting then I want and takes days or weeks of waiting time. Plus renting really doesn't contribute much, it's practically piracy. I am willing to pay $60 for a few games that I think are only worth $40, because I can pirate games to make up the difference. If I can't pirate, then I can't even buy those games until they are 5 years old, and sold used. Just as bad as piracy. Basically, without piracy, video games are just too expensive. Rather just watch Netflix and Youtube, or work on my career skills, or find a girlfriend, throw dinner parties, enjoy life

 

[the_randomizer]

That's ridiculous. It's about price. A gold plated hotdog with caviar is worth eating, but it isn't worth $100. Might pay $10. Monopoly isn't worth $40, or even $20, but is worth $5. I want to try NBA2k for a few times, see if I can learn it. I won't ever play it enough to be worth asking price. I don't like sports that much. I just want to prove to myself that I'm capable of doing it. Something like Mario Party is worth playing the first time, but then will likely never actually be played again. You could argue that I could rent games, but the RedBox doesn't do that, would need GameFly, that's more renting then I want and takes days or weeks of waiting time. Plus renting really doesn't contribute much, it's practically piracy. I am willing to pay $60 for a few games that I think are only worth $40, because I can pirate games to make up the difference. If I can't pirate, then I can't even buy those games until they are 5 years old, and sold used. Just as bad as piracy. Basically, without piracy, video games are just too expensive. Rather just watch Netflix and Youtube, or work on my career skills, or find a girlfriend, throw dinner parties, enjoy life

Wow, that's some G-14 classified information right there. It's not even your console, so yeah, we're not going to sympathize with you on this. It's his, technically, and not yours, so who are you bitch and moan about what you want to do, and not what he wants to do? Can't you do anything besides thinking of your damn ego for one minute?

But lemme get this straight, games are expensive because there's not enough piracy?

Want games? Get a fucking job.

 

[Slartibartfast42]

No I cant sympathize. That just makes you look like a terrible uncle. It's not even your switch, if the kid or his parents want to update they should be able to. You want to take control of a system that you don't even own. If it were your own switch then maybe. But you have no right to be butthurt about a device you don't even own

The very same arguments apply to a Switch I do own. Plus kids don't know better, that's why they have adult to make decisions for them. In this case, the parents could still update, they'd know the PIN, I'd have to tell them if they didn't know. My different situation doesn't take away from the argument for all those people who own their own switch. Lots of parents would like to protect their switch from their kids.

 

[the_randomizer]

The very same arguments apply to a Switch I do own. Plus kids don't know better, that's why they have adult to make decisions for them. In this case, the parents could still update, they'd know the PIN, I'd have to tell them if they didn't know. My different situation doesn't take away from the argument for all those people who own their own switch. Lots of parents would like to protect their switch from their kids.

And yet here you are bitching about not being able to pirate the games you can't afford. Get a damn job then. You can cut back on the Adderall, that should help with your paranoia.

No it's not, just because people don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad way of thinking

And just because people do it, doesn't make anyone better than people who don't do it, so yeah. If people want games, they should get a job, you know, like an adult.

 

[OctolingRift]

I don't think it's piracy people are upset about, more the fact that people in this thread have stated that they won't buy a switch until there is piracy, because it's not worth it otherwise. Because that's just a terrible way of thinking.

No it's not, just because people don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad way of thinking

 

[TheCyberQuake]

That's ridiculous. It's about price. A gold plated hotdog with caviar is worth eating, but it isn't worth $100. Might pay $10. Monopoly isn't worth $40, or even $20, but is worth $5. I want to try NBA2k for a few times, see if I can learn it. I won't ever play it enough to be worth asking price. I don't like sports that much. I just want to prove to myself that I'm capable of doing it. Something like Mario Party is worth playing the first time, but then will likely never actually be played again. You could argue that I could rent games, but the RedBox doesn't do that, would need GameFly, that's more renting then I want and takes days or weeks of waiting time. Plus renting really doesn't contribute much, it's practically piracy. I am willing to pay $60 for a few games that I think are only worth $40, because I can pirate games to make up the difference. If I can't pirate, then I can't even buy those games until they are 5 years old, and sold used. Just as bad as piracy. Basically, without piracy, video games are just too expensive. Rather just watch Netflix and Youtube, or work on my career skills, or find a girlfriend, throw dinner parties, enjoy life

"a gold plated hot dog with caviar is not worth $100, it's worth $10"
Yeah no you lost me at that second sentence.

 

[OctolingRift]

And yet here you are bitching about not being able to pirate the games you can't afford. Get a damn job then. You can cut back on the Adderall, that should help with your paranoia.



And just because people do it, doesn't make anyone better than people who don't do it, so yeah. If people want games, they should get a job, you know, like an adult.

>Get a job poorfag
Maybe we have jobs but don't feel like shilling out $60 for games that are worth $10. Don't like it? Then GTFO

 

[the_randomizer]

>Get a job poorfag
Maybe we have jobs but don't feel like shilling out $60 for games that are worth $10. Don't like it? Then GTFO

That's not my problem. And no, I won't, but you people need to get a grip and realize you can't always get what you want. It's life, get used to it. Or you can make your own exploits and start doing your own programming so you can play all the games you want. You can't tell me to GTFO, so yeah, use the ignore button instead and either accept the fact of having to wait, or stop being so fucking entitled. Take your sanctimonious bullshit and cool your jets.