Vaccines and Autism Spectrum Disorder!

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First time I've heard this from somebody with autism. I have always wondered what the thinking behind this is, could you explain why? Autism has always seemed to be a barrier, more than a enhancement. I don't have autism, but children in my family are.
You have to realize one thing. Every cause of autism is different. So, seeing one doesn't mean you know all of them. Another autistic person might be completely different and nothing like the one you know.
 

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Anti-vaxxers be like "Oh I don't think I should have to vaccinate my child, so I'm going to send him or her to a school so he can build his immunity to smallpox by being exposed to the environment".

Thanks a lot, Typhoid Mary, for being an inconsiderate prick and endangering the lives of others by not giving them vaccines. Remember the Black Plague? It was quite popular in 14th century Europe, and remember the flu epidemic? Why not polio and smallpox while we're at it? You know vaccines for those? Yeah, people really can't fight off polio, smallpox or the plague without modern medicine. But I digress, if you want your children to die from disease, it's your own fucking fault. Don't come crying to us when you've screwed the pooch, stupidity is not a handicap.
 

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The vaccines cause autism is a bunch of extreme leftist liberal agenda-pushing bullshit, there, I said it.
Hate to break it to you, but its usually religious conservatives pushing the conspiracy. There are a few "natural development no GMO blah blah blah" nuts on the far left, but they're far from the majority
 
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Hate to break it to you, but its usually religious conservatives pushing the conspiracy. There are a few "natural development no GMO blah blah blah" nuts on the far left, but they're far from the majority

Well, the religion I belong to, a Christian religion, is quite the opposite and are in favor of vaccinations, my apologies. I just think that a lot of people who are anti-vaxxers need a dose of reality and need to shut their damn mouths. It's all bullshit.
 

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Hate to break it to you, but its usually religious conservatives pushing the conspiracy. There are a few "natural development no GMO blah blah blah" nuts on the far left, but they're far from the majority

True, here in the Netherlands we got the very strong & conservative Biblebelt, I'm Christian myself, but not strict, and I'm happy because of that. On the Biblebelt they don't vaccinate for the most part, it's a very conservative area here.

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Well, the religion I belong to, a Christian religion, is quite the opposite and are in favor of vaccinations, my apologies. I just think that a lot of people who are anti-vaxxers need a dose of reality and need to shut their damn mouths. It's all bullshit.

True, also: in fact, the most doctors on that list, in the OP, aren't on Wikipedia, or are put out of job. Some also are conspiracy thinkers.
 

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Vaccines don't cause autism. IF they did though, (they DON'T!!!) you'd rather your child died of completely preventable diseases than turn out like me? I have a job that pays higher than the national average, a beautiful girlfriend with a place of our own, a loving family and good friends. I can solve complex technical problems in hours that would take my colleague's days or weeks. I can hear a whisper from across a room. Because I've LEARNED to read body language, tone of voice etc and consciously process them instead of relying on "intuition" I'm actually better than my peers at picking up when someone is unhappy or upset.

Autism isn't a curse, it's my goddamn superpower, and I wouldn't be where I am without it.
 
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Vaccines don't cause autism. IF they did though, (they DON'T!!!) you'd rather your child died of completely preventable diseases than turn out like me? I have a job that pays higher than the national average, a beautiful girlfriend with a place of our own, a loving family and good friends. I can solve complex technical problems in hours that would take my colleague's days or weeks. I can hear a whisper from across a room. Because I've LEARNED to read body language, tone of voice etc and consciously process them instead of relying on "intuition" I'm actually better than my peers at picking up when someone is unhappy or upset.

Autism isn't a curse, it's my goddamn superpower, and I wouldn't be where I am without it.

You know what, what the hell, I'm on the spectrum as well, yeah, Aspergers, and you know what? I don't give a rat's ass that people know, and have vaccines "given" me autism? Pfft no, if people want to make fun of me for this and for supporting vaccines, not my problem.
 

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Hate to break it to you, but its usually religious conservatives pushing the conspiracy. There are a few "natural development no GMO blah blah blah" nuts on the far left, but they're far from the majority
You both are wrong as neither side is substantially more likely than the other to hold anti-vaccine beliefs as per http://prospect.org/article/vaccine-fear-mongers-are-wrong-theyre-not-ideological . But there are many areas where Democratic leaning people hold anti-science beliefs compared to Republicans and vice versa even if the areas are different.
 
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You know what, what the hell, I'm on the spectrum as well, yeah, Aspergers, and you know what? I don't give a rat's ass that people know, and have vaccines "given" me autism? Pfft no, if people want to make fun of me for this and for supporting vaccines, not my problem.

Hell yeah, claim it, nothing wrong with being different :)
 
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There is just so much wrong with this.

If you want to associate vaccines with problems, have some decency and don't use "first world approved" vaccines that are tested all around and associate it with just a single problem.

There ARE real bad vaccines: in Brazil there is Sabin, this shit is being pushed real hard even in this day, and has been PROVED to cause much more polio than prevent it. Over 90% of polio in brazil is CAUSED by that vaccine.

Also a bit different topic but the genetically modified mosquitoes have been demonstrated over and over by brazilian researchers to having CAUSED the spread of zika.

Personally I think vaccines are like anti-viruses for Windows, well instructed people shouldn't need it, at least most of them. There is literally just one vaccine, MRR, that prevents something you have more than 1% chance of getting if your region has sewer system. The rest isn't even worth the risk of a dirty needle.
 

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Even if vaccines cause autism (they don't!): I rather have an autistic child than a dead one. VACCINES ARE SAFE!!!
 

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Also on that list many doctors seem to be non-existent, another has a different profession like Computer Science, and had published articles in shitty online papers, which were debunked. Others believe in Conspiracy Theories, while others are dead, or placed out of function, because of dangerous beliefs, I'd not believe any shit in the OP based on this research I did.
 
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