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Vote yes on Prop 19

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dinofan01 said:
Oh no. i definitely dont think it would solve the entire problem. I was speaking more specifically about California. Marijunia is a huge part of the trafficking problem. The tijuana border is a scary place to be for most people. This could definitely put a huge dent in the problem. But you do have a point in it being a problem for other states. Especially texas. Im not sure what to really say to that other then california needs to calm the situation on their front. Id hate to see us throw our problem on someone else but it might be what happens.

Ah my mistake mate. I don't actually know that much about the pot smuggling in California, just know that black tar plays a big part as well. The only thing I really know about Tijuana is what you see on telly and in films. I just always assumed it was mostly cut together for entertainment purposes. lol To solve the smuggling problem other states could enforce stricter smuggling sentences if they get caught coming from California, but it kind of defeats the whole keeping more people out of jail perk. lol
 

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Anyone who would vote no either has had a personal, emotional, or family problem that makes them biased against it. Not saying that anyone voting yes isnt biased either, but they have quite a bit more positives than negatives. Frankly, it makes no sense to vote no. Its going to happen either way, and legalizing it would only give us money, save us money, and take money out of the hands of criminals in drug cartels. It would also make it safer to acquire, and less dangerous, as the US government would have to approve it for sale. No getting anything that is laced or whatever by accident. The only improbable negatives are an increase in use, which i highly doubt would be that big of an issue. anyone who really wants to doesnt care whether its legal or not, and do it anyway. As for health risk, like previously mentioned, marijuana is safer than both tobacco and regular alcohol. Also, OT but funny: Whoever tests this stuff at a government center must have quite a fun "Job". hehe.
 

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TrolleyDave said:
Ah my mistake mate. I don't actually know that much about the pot smuggling in California, just know that black tar plays a big part as well. The only thing I really know about Tijuana is what you see on telly and in films. I just always assumed it was mostly cut together for entertainment purposes. lol To solve the smuggling problem other states could enforce stricter smuggling sentences if they get caught coming from California, but it kind of defeats the whole keeping more people out of jail perk. lol
Naw I should have been more specific
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Yep heroines are part too. Although I have no specific numbers I would wager marijuana is a bigger import just based on the news and media I'll see daily. But then again it is the media soooo.... hahab yeah I dont know the simplest way to solve it. I guess thats why I'm no politician just a sane individual. haha
 

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ChuckBartowski said:
Anyone who would vote no either has had a personal, emotional, or family problem that makes them biased against it.
My dad's like 56 or 57, and when he smokes he gets kinda' weird... but it's just the "his attitude is different" weird. He's definitely not scary or anything (he's a chill guy), but the fact that his attitude temporarily changes from what I've known my entire life is the creepy part. I'm sure lots of people have seen this and been creeped out not by anything the smoker did, but just from the fact that they seemed different while high.
 

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Rydian said:
ChuckBartowski said:
Anyone who would vote no either has had a personal, emotional, or family problem that makes them biased against it.
My dad's like 56 or 57, and when he smokes he gets kinda' weird... but it's just the "his attitude is different" weird. He's definitely not scary or anything (he's a chill guy), but the fact that his attitude temporarily changes from what I've known my entire life is the creepy part. I'm sure lots of people have seen this and been creeped out not by anything the smoker did, but just from the fact that they seemed different while high.


He's intoxicated. Has he ever gotten shitfaced drunk in front of you? I mean drunk enough to vomit until he dry heaves, or bawl like a baby in front of you, or piss his own pants (or all three at once)??? There's an attitude change for ya. And yet, perfectly legal while weed is not.
 

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Rydian said:
ChuckBartowski said:
Anyone who would vote no either has had a personal, emotional, or family problem that makes them biased against it.
My dad's like 56 or 57, and when he smokes he gets kinda' weird... but it's just the "his attitude is different" weird. He's definitely not scary or anything (he's a chill guy), but the fact that his attitude temporarily changes from what I've known my entire life is the creepy part. I'm sure lots of people have seen this and been creeped out not by anything the smoker did, but just from the fact that they seemed different while high.
So does alcohol. So do cigarettes. So does sugar. So does caffeine. All of those drugs alter mood. Hell, not getting enough sleep will alter a person from "what you've known your entire life". What does that have to do with forcing other people to do what you want or be thrown in jail?
 

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worlok375 said:
I'm saying no because that shit will fuck you up.
Then you, as an adult (you are an adult, right?) can choose not to partake in cannabis. That doesn't give you any right to arrest other adults who choose to.
 

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It's too late anyways. Prop 19 got shot down.
Wouldn't have mattered much to me because marijuana's still illegal at college whether or not the proposition is passed.
 

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Rydian said:
I think you guys are reading more to my post than is actually in my post.
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I'm just saying why most people seem scared of drugs.
Well there are some drugs to be legitimately afraid of... well not afraid, but dislike. Especially things like meth and cocaine. You dont see mild meth users. its either all out or none with those insane people. And thats part of the problem. People see marijuana as this sort of "gateway drug", and instantly mark it for bad. Admittedly, sometimes it may be. But only for idiots. Its just like alcohol. Some people drink recreationaly, but they dont support idiot alcoholics. I think that i works the same with marijuana.
 

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DeMoN said:
It's too late anyways. Prop 19 got shot down.
Wouldn't have mattered much to me because marijuana's still illegal at college whether or not the proposition is passed.
wait what!? *turns his head to his roommate* dude throw that shit out! this guy on the internet says its illegal. I dont care what Steve said! I aint getting busted.......huh?
 

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gamefreak94 said:
If this was passed then all the pot heads would move to california, then i would have to find some other place to live.
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you do realize there already here? and even if they did come in droves the FDA would bust the farms so bad there wouldnt be any reason to come here just for that. The fact that you think "pot heads" would just show up tells me you are vastly unaware of California's counter culture. We already have a well known marijuana scene, a huge rave scene that brings with it all the chemical heads, and every thing else you can think of. If your not seeing that now, your not gonna see it if it passed.
 

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I voted yes buttttt....... it is still going to be illegal if it passes. It will be illegal by federal law and the federal govt will step in pretty soon and put an end to it. I won't ever smoke it but i think we could tax it and it is far less harmful than alcohol.
 

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