What DNS do you use?
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1.1.1.1, The real working man's DNS
Any other DNS means you are a neckbeard that jacks off to anime.
Any other DNS means you are a neckbeard that jacks off to anime.
tell me about it, it seems it's owned by cloudfare? it can be really trusted?
currently using open dns
google already has enough of my info and data, i rather not use their dns service..
I read this article and it seems like Cloudflare might be faster:
https://medium.com/@nykolas.z/dns-r...flare-x-google-x-quad9-x-opendns-149e803734e5
also ... you know how Google uses your info and cross references everything
I love Google but I certainly don't love that part
so I switched from 8.8.8.8 to 1.1.1.1 recently
https://medium.com/@nykolas.z/dns-r...flare-x-google-x-quad9-x-opendns-149e803734e5
also ... you know how Google uses your info and cross references everything
I love Google but I certainly don't love that partso I switched from 8.8.8.8 to 1.1.1.1 recently
Interesting. 1.1.1.1 is easier to remember anyway.I read this article and it seems like Cloudflare might be faster:
https://medium.com/@nykolas.z/dns-r...flare-x-google-x-quad9-x-opendns-149e803734e5
also ... you know how Google uses your info and cross references everything
so I switched from 8.8.8.8 to 1.1.1.1 recently
How is 1.1.1.1 easier to remember than 8.8.8.8 or 9.9.9.9?
It's just the same number repeated four times over!
but 1 < 8 !How is 1.1.1.1 easier to remember than 8.8.8.8 or 9.9.9.9?
It's just the same number repeated four times over!
seriously, you guys try to ping 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1 and post the results here? I'd be curious to see which responds faster
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I've always used the default DNS settings. I'll temporarily switch to openDNS if I want to access a certain Swedish torrent site which is blocked in Australia. But now I'm going to give 1.1.1.1 a shot.
I just use the ISP one or temporarily 8.8.8.8 if I suspect DNS problems.
Ping tests (over wifi):
ISP (Talktalk 79.79.79.77):
Google (8.8.8.8):
Cloudfare (1.1.1.1):
Ping tests (over wifi):
ISP (Talktalk 79.79.79.77):
Google (8.8.8.8):
Cloudfare (1.1.1.1):
Last edited by tech3475,
Ping times don't necessarily reflect propagation and resolution times, though. In my experience as a network admin and web host, third party DNS providers tend to propagate much faster than ISP provided servers. Mind you, this is only from experience with the monopoly that is US based ISPs; Verizon, Comcast, Spectrum, and Cox. I can't speak that much for others (UK based ones tend to be similar to the US), but propagation and resolution matters more to me than simple replies. Keep in mind that when you ping a host, you're just waiting for a "PONG", which is just an arbitrary response that doesn't really represent anything other than that the host is listening and able to respond, and how long it takes to receive these arbitrary responses. This doesn't speak for the actual function of the DNS server, though, and how fast it works.
Last edited by Joom,
I switched to 1.1.1.1 after it went public. It's pretty snappy, but I'm in southern California so the difference between it and Google's service is negligible.
Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=53
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=53
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=53
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=53
Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=53
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=53
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=53
Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=53
Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=57
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Last edited by Blood Fetish,
Google because that was the first major DNS that's not censored like ISP ones, or redirecting to ads like those or OpenDNS
(Actually, I'm using my router as DNS - which in turn uses Google, but also resolves {hostname}.lan even though I manually enter IPs 99% of the time)
(Actually, I'm using my router as DNS - which in turn uses Google, but also resolves {hostname}.lan even though I manually enter IPs 99% of the time)
I use 127.0.0.1 as my dns! lol seriously! I use YourFriendlyDNS which in turn uses OpenDNS (which is a lot faster consistently for me than G* dns or any dns) and it's soon going to have added DNSCrypt support as well!
To note, Joom is right ping is not the right tool for job herem you're going to want to use something like dig! The application "dig" helped me get my server to where it is today with it's telling me everything that was wrong with my dns responses until I corrected them to where everything looks good to dig now:
Note the server output dns request/response ids of the first response (which makes a real request and caches it) matching the dig output. And note the second response (in the server output it just says returned cached ips) being at 0msec so less than 1 msec. For as long as I set the cache to be valid for I get 0msec dns responses to queries I've already made within that time.
Program state at end of output taken:
Server output:
Dig output (talking to the local dns server running on the same machine):
Making DNS request type: 1 for domain: "startpage.com" request id: 39808
matches dig:
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> startpage.com
;;..
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39808
Making DNS request type: 1 for domain: "gbatemp.net" request id: 2088
also matches dig:
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> gbatemp.net
;; ...
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2088
The benefit of doing this(running your own personal local dns server) on top of using a fast dns like OpenDNS is that you get a fast dns as well as a fast local dns cache along with it!
Plus even though your dns is fast, by requesting from it less you help reduce the over all load on the servers to keep it fast for everyone!
Alright so now that I've got my dns responses proper and the thing working properly through all my testing, I should add DNSCrypt support and release a new version!
lol seriously! I use YourFriendlyDNS which in turn uses OpenDNS (which is a lot faster consistently for me than G* dns or any dns) and it's soon going to have added DNSCrypt support as well!To note, Joom is right ping is not the right tool for job herem you're going to want to use something like dig! The application "dig" helped me get my server to where it is today with it's telling me everything that was wrong with my dns responses until I corrected them to where everything looks good to dig now:
Note the server output dns request/response ids of the first response (which makes a real request and caches it) matching the dig output. And note the second response (in the server output it just says returned cached ips) being at 0msec so less than 1 msec. For as long as I set the cache to be valid for I get 0msec dns responses to queries I've already made within that time.
Program state at end of output taken:
Server output:
Code:
bash-3.2# ./YourFriendlyDNS.app/Contents/MacOS/YourFriendlyDNS
YourFriendlyDNS settings storage location: "/var/root/Library/Application Support/YourFriendlyDNS"
YourFriendlyDNS settings file path: "/var/root/Library/Application Support/YourFriendlyDNS/YourFriendlyDNS.settings"
Using dns server port: 53
Using http server port: 80
DNS server started on address: QHostAddress("0.0.0.0") and port: 53
HTTP server started on address: QHostAddress("0.0.0.0") and port: 80
MessagesThread started, for handling server duties!
initial mode: false
Loading respondingIP: "172.16.42.221"
Auto-setting DNS TTL: 3600
dns server loaded: "208.67.222.222"
dns server loaded: "208.67.220.220"
whitelist entry loaded: "*startpage.com" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "*gbatemp.net" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "*ixquick-proxy.com" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "*github*.com" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "github.map.fastly.net" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "preev.com" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "*amazon.com" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "*cloudfront.net" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
whitelist entry loaded: "*w3schools.com" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
blacklist entry loaded: "*srv.nintendo.net" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
blacklist entry loaded: "*d4c.nintendo.net" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
blacklist entry loaded: "*eshop.nintendo.net" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
blacklist entry loaded: "*cdn.nintendo.net" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
blacklist entry loaded: "*facebook*" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
blacklist entry loaded: "*fbcdn*" QHostAddress("0.0.0.0")
Matched WhiteList! "*startpage.com" to: "startpage.com"
Caching this domain-> "startpage.com"
Making DNS request type: 1 for domain: "startpage.com" request id: 39808 datagram: "\x9B\x80\x01\x00\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\tstartpage\x03""com\x00\x00\x01\x00\x01"
Got IP: "69.28.209.190" for domain: "startpage.com"
Got IP: "69.28.209.119" for domain: "startpage.com"
Got IP: "216.218.239.42" for domain: "startpage.com"
[A RECORD] to: QHostAddress("127.0.0.1") 60726
request: "\x9B\x80\x01\x00\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\tstartpage\x03""com\x00\x00\x01\x00\x01" answer offset: 31
response: "\x9B\x80\x81\x80\x00\x01\x00\x03\x00\x00\x00\x00\tstartpage\x03""com\x00\x00\x01\x00\x01\xC0\f\x00\x01\x00\x01\x00\x00\x0E\x10\x00\x04""E\x1C\xD1\xBE\xC0\f\x00\x01\x00\x01\x00\x00\x0E\x10\x00\x04""E\x1C\xD1w\xC0\f\x00\x01\x00\x01\x00\x00\x0E\x10\x00\x04\xD8\xDA\xEF*"
Matched WhiteList! "*startpage.com" to: "startpage.com"
Cached IPs returned! (first one): QHostAddress("69.28.209.190") for domain: "startpage.com"
Returning custom IP: "172.16.42.221" for domain: "gsp-ssl.ls.apple.com"
Returning custom IP: "172.16.42.221" for domain: "detectportal.firefox.com"
Returning custom IP: "172.16.42.221" for domain: "detectportal.firefox.com"
Matched WhiteList! "*startpage.com" to: "startpage.com"
Cached IPs returned! (first one): QHostAddress("69.28.209.190") for domain: "startpage.com"
Matched WhiteList! "*startpage.com" to: "startpage.com"
Cached IPs returned! (first one): QHostAddress("69.28.209.190") for domain: "startpage.com"
Matched WhiteList! "*gbatemp.net" to: "gbatemp.net"
Caching this domain-> "gbatemp.net"
Making DNS request type: 1 for domain: "gbatemp.net" request id: 2088 datagram: "\b(\x01\x00\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x07gbatemp\x03net\x00\x00\x01\x00\x01"
Got IP: "62.210.180.159" for domain: "gbatemp.net"
[A RECORD] to: QHostAddress("127.0.0.1") 65012
request: "\b(\x01\x00\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x07gbatemp\x03net\x00\x00\x01\x00\x01" answer offset: 29
response: "\b(\x81\x80\x00\x01\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x07gbatemp\x03net\x00\x00\x01\x00\x01\xC0\f\x00\x01\x00\x01\x00\x00\x0E\x10\x00\x04>\xD2\xB4\x9F"
Matched WhiteList! "*gbatemp.net" to: "gbatemp.net"
Cached IPs returned! (first one): QHostAddress("62.210.180.159") for domain: "gbatemp.net"
Returning custom IP: "172.16.42.221" for domain: "twitter.com"
Returning custom IP: "172.16.42.221" for domain: "detectportal.firefox.com"
Returning custom IP: "172.16.42.221" for domain: "detectportal.firefox.com"Dig output (talking to the local dns server running on the same machine):
Code:
TheMacOS:~ engineer1$ dig startpage.com
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> startpage.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39808
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;startpage.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
startpage.com. 3600 IN A 69.28.209.190
startpage.com. 3600 IN A 69.28.209.119
startpage.com. 3600 IN A 216.218.239.42
;; Query time: 15 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Apr 30 03:03:06 2018
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79
TheMacOS:~ engineer1$:~ raw$ dig startpage.com
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> startpage.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16800
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;startpage.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
startpage.com. 3600 IN A 69.28.209.190
startpage.com. 3600 IN A 69.28.209.119
startpage.com. 3600 IN A 216.218.239.42
;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Apr 30 03:03:20 2018
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 79
TheMacOS:~ engineer1$ dig gbatemp.net
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> gbatemp.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2088
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gbatemp.net. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
gbatemp.net. 3600 IN A 62.210.180.159
;; Query time: 25 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Apr 30 03:04:03 2018
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 45
TheMacOS:~ engineer1$ dig gbatemp.net
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> gbatemp.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26592
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gbatemp.net. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
gbatemp.net. 3600 IN A 62.210.180.159
;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Apr 30 03:04:06 2018
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 45Making DNS request type: 1 for domain: "startpage.com" request id: 39808
matches dig:
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> startpage.com
;;..
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39808
Making DNS request type: 1 for domain: "gbatemp.net" request id: 2088
also matches dig:
; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> gbatemp.net
;; ...
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2088
The benefit of doing this(running your own personal local dns server) on top of using a fast dns like OpenDNS is that you get a fast dns as well as a fast local dns cache along with it!
Plus even though your dns is fast, by requesting from it less you help reduce the over all load on the servers to keep it fast for everyone!
Alright so now that I've got my dns responses proper and the thing working properly through all my testing, I should add DNSCrypt support and release a new version!
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