I know As someone who works in a similar field I know from experience that if you play your hands right and make people believe it actually costs that much, you will make a fortune of those suckers!It's hilarious how much overhead these repair shops have for things like screen repair.
You musn't have ever been to Japan. People leave their belongings on tables to reserve spots, crime is next to non existant and your more than likely to get any misplaced belongings back.My quesion is, why do people leave their $800 phones laying around to be stolen? If my phone isn't charging by my bed, it's in my hand, or pocket. I don't set it down for anything. Nada. Why do people pretend to live in a world without desperate thieves?
Crimes goes down with intelligence and knowledge. Mostly.
People who are stealing these phones have no idea about activations locks etc. They see something shiny, and think they can make money from it.
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You musn't have ever been to Japan. People leave their belongings on tables to reserve spots, crime is next to non existant and your more than likely to get any misplaced belongings back.
Mmm.. not quite, no. Their prison system is horrendous, you basically aren't a person while you're inside. Beatings, and dehumanization. No one want's that for a quick buck.Don’t they like hang you if you break the law over there though? Lol.
Crime actually goes UP the more intelligent and knowledgeable people are! Smarter people will still commit crimes all the time, but in a well orchestrated way that lets them avoid all repercussions. The smarter people are, the more complicated crimes become and the harder it becomes to prevent it.Crimes goes down with intelligence and knowledge. Mostly.
People who are stealing these phones have no idea about activations locks etc. They see something shiny, and think they can make money from it.
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You musn't have ever been to Japan. People leave their belongings on tables to reserve spots, crime is next to non existant and your more than likely to get any misplaced belongings back.
Japan uses the death penalty ONLY for cases of murder, so stealing and all other stuff simply get you fines or jailtime.Don’t they like hang you if you break the law over there though? Lol.
You are confusing Japan with Korea/China. Japan's prison system is actually pretty civil, although, by law, prisoners get stripped of almost all their human rights while in jail, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily mistreated. There are many bad cases, but overall it's just like in most countries and at least they don't have to fear when picking up the soap in the shower, unlike a certain other country...Mmm.. not quite, no. Their prison system is horrendous, you basically aren't a person while you're inside. Beatings, and dehumanization. No one want's that for a quick buck.
You clearly haven't been to Japan either. Sure, it's very unlikely that your belongings will get stolen, but not impossible. Even here people reserve spots by leaving their belongings, but that only happens in public areas where it would be obvious if someone tried to steal something. Go somewhere where not that many people are present and everyone keeps on to their stuff all the time.
You are confusing Japan with Korea/China. Japan's prison system is actually pretty civil, although, by law, prisoners get stripped of almost all their human rights while in jail, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily mistreated. There are many bad cases, but overall it's just like in most countries and at least they don't have to fear when picking up the soap in the shower, unlike a certain other country...
I have been to Japan for about half a year total, 3 trips, and I can tell you that such things happen most of the time, but it doesn't mean that there aren't pickpockets or things like that. The example you gave happens here all the time too. If there are people around that aren't shady, then it's probably safe, but if it's in a place where there are only a few people and there's a shady/questionable person in there too, it's risky. As for the prison thing, it's not a stigma for most people, it's a stigma for ALL people and not even just social, as going to jail makes you much less likely to find a decent job, to get permissions from governments (eg: to go abroad even if for a visit), etc..I have been to Japan for a Month total, multiple trips and I have seen firsthand how trusting and safe this country is. I have seen a lady get off a train and leave something behind and multiple people quickly jumped into action to make sure it got back to her. I wouldn't ever be afraid of my phone being stolen in Japan.
Also, going to prison would be an unimaginable social stigma for most people.
Some people are stupid, desperate, kleptomaniacs, or a combination of the three.About two months ago my friend was in China and her phone got stolen. The other week my friend's phone got stolen in Australia. One of my friends warned me to be careful with my phone in China or it might get stolen. I ignored this warning thinking that having a passcode on my phone makes it useless to a thief and the fact it can be tracked makes it worse than useless. I got lucky.
These days any phone worth having will use a passcode or fingerprint or facial recognition software to unlock the phone. All phones worth having can also be tracked by the user.
I've come up with two possible reasons why someone might steal a phone despite this.
-Throw away the phone and use the sim card to commit other crimes
-The user was recorded entering the passcode before the phone was stolen
Are these reasons above just bullshit I've made up or are they valid? Are there other reasons I haven't thought of?
You sure they didn't just leave their phone somewhere and someone took it?
Like, whenever I see a phone sitting on a chair in a train, if I'm honest, I'm tempted to take it with me and keep it, instead of bringing it to the info stand on my station.
Why do people steal or take phones?
Mainly for money. Most phones can be reset by professionals I'd guess.
And some random student could be duped into buying it just like that and end up with a stolen phone and -200 bucks.
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Mostly right, but why do you think thiefs steal for drugs?
Most crime still happens to finance basic needs like food and shelter
True, due to the stupendous health system it would be very rare for them to get an STD in such a case....... /s?You are confusing Japan with Korea/China. Japan's prison system is actually pretty civil, although, by law, prisoners get stripped of almost all their human rights while in jail, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily mistreated. There are many bad cases, but overall it's just like in most countries and at least they don't have to fear when picking up the soap in the shower, unlike a certain other country...
I don't know if I can get there. A lot of security is about "keeping honest people honest".I think everyone missed the most obvious. Anyone who steals something, is already dishonest. They don't care if they sell a locked or broken phone to someone. They make the price appealing so the transaction goes quickly and smooth. Thief is gone before the victim has any idea. Happens all the time.
Your common thief isn't taking the phone apart to sell for parts. Your common thief isn't swapping chips to bypass locks. You guys give the common thief too much credit. It's not some kind of underground cell phone theft ring.
Yep i droped my Huawei P9 and broke the glass cover that is on the back where the camera is. All my local repair shops quoted me round about 45 to 50 pounds to fix it. Instead i bought the official replacement part for 1.50 pounds and fitted it in under 2 minutes. Phone repair shops prices are beyond a joke.It's hilarious how much overhead these repair shops have for things like screen repair.
I agree.Yep i droped my Huawei P9 and broke the glass cover that is on the back where the camera is. All my local repair shops quoted me round about 45 to 50 pounds to fix it. Instead i bought the official replacement part for 1.50 pounds and fitted it in under 2 minutes. Phone repair shops prices are beyond a joke.
American healthcare in a nutshellI know As someone who works in a similar field I know from experience that if you play your hands right and make people believe it actually costs that much, you will make a fortune of those suckers!
Yep i droped my Huawei P9 and broke the glass cover that is on the back where the camera is. All my local repair shops quoted me round about 45 to 50 pounds to fix it. Instead i bought the official replacement part for 1.50 pounds and fitted it in under 2 minutes. Phone repair shops prices are beyond a joke.
What exactly are these info bearing chips? Is it a chip containing the phone's IMEI number?Replace the flash chips n what not.
The mainboard likely gets send to China where they desolder the info bearing chips and solder in new ones.
Reprogram it and it gets thrown back into sales.
If you are familiar with the 3DS scene, it's very much like what the NAND is. It's not an actual NAND, rather a chip containing thousands of logic gates and it keeps anything related to OS, hardware drivers, etc.. If it's encrypted, even hardmodding won't help you, so they just replace the chip entirely, reprogram it and resell the device, much simpler, mass produced chips and semi/fully-automated process so they are making quite a lot.What exactly are these info bearing chips? Is it a chip containing the phone's IMEI number?
A question that came to my mind shortly after learning about IMEI numbers.However, most important to ask here is, what's with the sudden half-necro? I had even forgotten this thread existed