Homebrew [WIP] SafeSysUpdater

[missinsummer]

can i use this to downgrade to 2.1 from 9.2? seems like failed.

so i assume this is only for upgrading?

 

[rubber10]

make some sysupdater for 3ds ver.11.0

 

[TrashyClassy]

make some sysupdater for 3ds ver.11.0

no.

 

[Gocario]

make some sysupdater for 3ds ver.11.0

no.

 

[Akira]

make some sysupdater for 3ds ver.11.0

no, kek

 

[Zyrmkel]

make some sysupdater for 3ds ver.11.0

Find a exploit on v.11 to downgrade and we will

 

[xXDungeon_CrawlerXx]

make some sysupdater for 3ds ver.11.0

not possible (yet)

 

[Ironknight]

not possible (yet)

Not not yet, ver.11 will never get an exploit. Maybe 11.1 will have an exploit in it, but not 11. Downgrading from ver.11 is only possible with a hardmod, or an existing install of A9LH.

 

[xXDungeon_CrawlerXx]

Not not yet, ver.11 will never get an exploit. Maybe 11.1 will have an exploit in it, but not 11. Downgrading from ver.11 is only possible with a hardmod, or an existing install of A9LH.

Oder jemand findet einen primären Exploit, mitdem wir Arm9-Kernelaccess erhalten.

 

[Ironknight]

Oder jemand findet einen primären Exploit, mitdem wir Arm9-Kernelaccess erhalten.

Oder so, aber das wird sehr unwahrscheinlich sein, da Nintendo bei dieser Version SEHR darauf geachtet hat den Hackern einen Strich durch die Rechnung zu ziehen :/

 

[xXDungeon_CrawlerXx]

Oder so, aber das wird sehr unwahrscheinlich sein, da Nintendo bei dieser Version SEHR darauf geachtet hat den Hackern einen Strich durch die Rechnung zu ziehen :/

Dies taten sie auch schon in früheren Versionen^^
Vor einiger Zeit wurde gesagt, dass man keine Firmware über 4.5 hacken kann. Dann gab es einen Exploit, der es ermöglichte.
Das Gleiche sagte man auch über Firmware 9.2.
Einfach schauen, was die Zeit bringt

 

[Zan']

Dies taten sie auch schon in früheren Versionen^^
Vor einiger Zeit wurde gesagt, dass man keine Firmware über 4.5 hacken kann. Dann gab es einen Exploit, der es ermöglichte.
Das Gleiche sagte man auch über Firmware 9.2.
Einfach schauen, was die Zeit bringt

When did this become a german thread?
Hackers always win. NOTHING is 100% safe. For every existing software there is someone who can exploit it.
(I mean even notable Antivirus software was exploited before...)

 

[xXDungeon_CrawlerXx]

When did this become a german thread?
Hackers always win. NOTHING is 100% safe. For every existing software there is someone who can exploit it.
(I mean even notable Antivirus software was exploited before...)

hahaha, sorry :^)

 

[Ironknight]

Dies taten sie auch schon in früheren Versionen^^
Vor einiger Zeit wurde gesagt, dass man keine Firmware über 4.5 hacken kann. Dann gab es einen Exploit, der es ermöglichte.
Das Gleiche sagte man auch über Firmware 9.2.
Einfach schauen, was die Zeit bringt

Ja, aber diese Versionen hatten keinen NAND-check der geprüft hat, ob auch alle Systemtitel so sind, wie sie sein sollen. Solange dieser check da ist, KANN man nicht downgraden, also brauch man entweder einen direkten ARM9 Zugriff, oder einen Hardmod, denn ab jetzt wird uns kein ARM11 Zugriff auf dieser Welt mehr ein Downgrade ermöglichen.

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When did this become a german thread?
Hackers always win. NOTHING is 100% safe. For every existing software there is someone who can exploit it.
(I mean even notable Antivirus software was exploited before...)

Sorry, I was also surprised when Dungeon Crawler started speaking german, but when you can speak german natively, and get the opportunity to talk with more details, why not?

 

[xXDungeon_CrawlerXx]

Ja, aber diese Versionen hatten keinen NAND-check der geprüft hat, ob auch alle Systemtitel so sind, wie sie sein sollen. Solange dieser check da ist, KANN man nicht downgraden, also brauch man entweder einen direkten ARM9 Zugriff, oder einen Hardmod, denn ab jetzt wird uns kein ARM11 Zugriff auf dieser Welt mehr ein Downgrade ermöglichen.

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Sorry, I was also surprised when Dungeon Crawler started speaking german, but when you can speak german natively, and get the opportunity to talk with more details, why not?

Yea, I know that.
We just need a primary Arm9 Kernel Exploit to disable the checks.
After disabling the checks, we can downgrade again.
But for this, we need to find a primary Arm9 Kernel Exploit.
I have a N3DS with A9LH so normally I don't care about that but I think it's not impossible to exploit Firmware 11.0.
Time will tell.

 

[bi388]

Not not yet, ver.11 will never get an exploit.

I would NEVER say that. Unless you have some hidden info no one else knows there's no way you can know there isn't a undiscovered exploit in 11.0.

 

[Zan']

Ja, aber diese Versionen hatten keinen NAND-check der geprüft hat, ob auch alle Systemtitel so sind, wie sie sein sollen. Solange dieser check da ist, KANN man nicht downgraden, also brauch man entweder einen direkten ARM9 Zugriff, oder einen Hardmod, denn ab jetzt wird uns kein ARM11 Zugriff auf dieser Welt mehr ein Downgrade ermöglichen.

That's not exactly what's happening. It only stops lower version software from being installed. So it's entirely possible to manipulate the version number to a version HIGHER than the current one and install it, even though it's basically a lower version. This is not such a big problem. The problem is that they killed the old exploits and removed svc_backdoor which was very important for a lot of things.
So people will have to find a new exploit and a new way to go about it. I am fairly certain there is one.

The only reason this went so fast after the update, was that they didn't really fix the exploit that we had before. (twice now)
And 11.0 did sitll not fix the fact that you can just flash an old NATIVE_FIRM into your NAND (requires Hardmod), which then allows you to use older exploits and downgrade.
11.0 was not a "downgrade killer" in any way. It was just another bad try to fight hackers.

Err... I meant they obviously wanted to bring more stability™.

 

[Ironknight]

I would NEVER say that. Unless you have some hidden info no one else knows there's no way you can know there isn't a undiscovered exploit in 11.0.

I meant an exploit to downgrade. An ARM11 exploit would be useless, because of the downgrade checks introduced in ver. 11. And if we have ARM9 access, why would we want to downgrade? And for getting A9LH, we downgrade the EmuNAND, not the sysnand, so the SysNAND wouldnt need to be downgraded. An ARM9 access is all we need, but highly unlikely. I am already part of the a9lh masterrace (*cringe*), so I am not affected anyway, just roaming around for new infos.

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That's not exactly what's happening. It only stops lower version software from being installed. So it's entirely possible to manipulate the version number to a version HIGHER than the current one and install it, even though it's basically a lower version. This is not such a big problem. The problem is that they killed the old exploits and removed svc_backdoor which was very important for a lot of things.
So people will have to find a new exploit and a new way to go about it. I am fairly certain there is one.

The only reason this went so fast after the update, was that they didn't really fix the exploit that we had before. (twice now)
And 11.0 did sitll not fix the fact that you can just flash an old NATIVE_FIRM into your NAND (requires Hardmod), which then allows you to use older exploits and downgrade.
11.0 was not a "downgrade killer" in any way. It was just another bad try to fight hackers.

Err... I meant they obviously wanted to bring more stability™.

I didnt think about higher firmwares not being blocked, thanks for your insight! But that only makes sense, how else would they update? Im always happy to see new oppotunities

 

[bi388]

I meant an exploit to downgrade. An ARM11 exploit would be useless, because of the downgrade checks introduced in ver. 11. And if we have ARM9 access, why would we want to downgrade? And for getting A9LH, we downgrade the EmuNAND, not the sysnand, so the SysNAND wouldnt need to be downgraded. An ARM9 access is all we need, but highly unlikely. I am already part of the a9lh masterrace (*cringe*), so I am not affected anyway, just roaming around for new infos.

Again, there is a good chance there will be an arm9 exploit discovered. Everyone said "after 4.5 there won't be one" then "after 9.2 you're screwed". Now it's 10.7.

 

[Shadow#1]

make some sysupdater for 3ds ver.11.0

no