The U.S. is more dangerously divided than any other wealthy democracy. Is there a way back from the brink? (Yascha Mounk)

[TraderPatTX]

I am a Libertarian who supports Trump for those EXACT reasons, brother. The right people hate what I support.

I consider myself a classical liberal in the vein of the Founders like Benjamin Franklin and James Madison.

I am not just a Libertarian. I am a South Park Libertarian, which, joyfully, is an actual thing.

Matt and Trey went on record explaining their political views. They said, to paraphrase from memory, that they hated both conservatives and liberals, but they hated liberals more.

THAT is a political ideology that I can get behind. Leave everyone alone. EVERYONE. If they're not fucking you, stay out of their bedroom and what they do in it. If you did not impregnate them, don't try to stop them from getting an abortion. If they're not your ally, don't feel bad if you nope the fuck out of their own conflict over their territory. Just because YOU imagine that you are a girl, even though you were born with a penis, doesn't mean I HAVE to call you "ma'am", or be forced to by law.

Liberty for all people means liberty for ALL people.

It is our responsibility as citizens to protect people's life, liberty and their ability to pursue happiness. Even more so for those who cannot defend themselves.

It doesn't mean that liberals get to use their SJW crazed ideology to browbeat, cancel, cudgel and bash everyone who doesn't agree with them.

EVERYONE can go fuck off and leave everyone else alone. Why haven't we tried this yet?

Oh, that's right. The left refuses to let anyone do ANYTHING that they don't agree with. Not enough representation.

Their utopian world features an entire planet filled with gender-fluid non-binary morbidly obese "individuals" who all get "I Participated" trophies, no one ever gets their feelings hurt, everyone has a safe space, and the world is just a fluffy cotton ball that is rainbow colored.

Please. Fuck ALL the way off with that bullshit. The only Nazis are on the left. The ONLY NAZIS ARE ON THE LEFT, WHERE THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. IT'S IN THE FUCKING NAME. THE LEFT ARE SOCIALISTS. WHAT DOES "NAZI" MEAN?!

Fucking morons.

It's ironic that the people who call others fascist are perfectly ok with the FBI infringing on American's 1st Amendment rights.

Being fat is not beautiful or healthy. There are only two genders. FUCK Ukraine. No, I won't wear a mask. No, I won't get a vaccine. "Diversity" does not equate to "competency". NO LIVES MATTER. Epstein didn't kill himself.

Beautiful is a relative term. Ain't nothing wrong with a woman being a little thicc.

 

[CraddaPoosta]

Beautiful is a relative term. Ain't nothing wrong with a woman being a little thicc.

True. But the left is actively working towards "body acceptance" and ending "fat shaming".

I do not see it as a bad thing whatsoever for society to react to gluttons the way that many cultures do. What is the obesity rate in Japan, for example? Compare that to America.

Why is that? It isn't just because of their diet and lifestyle. It's because it is publicly shameful to be grossly overweight in Japan, and I 100% fully agree with that mentality.

I see shame as a WONDEFUL deterrent against shameful or despicable behavior, and I consider gluttony to be both. We could learn a lot from Japan.

 

[TraderPatTX]

True. But the left is actively working towards "body acceptance" and ending "fat shaming".

I do not see it as a bad thing whatsoever for society to react to gluttons the way that many cultures do. What is the obesity rate in Japan, for example? Compare that to America.

Why is that? It isn't just because of their diet and lifestyle. It's because it is publicly shameful to be grossly overweight in Japan, and I 100% fully agree with that mentality.

I see shame as a WONDEFUL deterrent against shameful or despicable behavior, and I consider gluttony to be both. We could learn a lot from Japan.

Japan lacks diversity and I have it on good authority that diversity is a strength. We probably shouldn't look to Japan for any wisdom for that reason.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

You have been commanded, repeatedly, NOT to speak to me, sir.

I have you blocked. I only saw this because you tagged me.

Stop speaking to me. Stop tagging me. Stop mentioning my name.

NO MEANS NO! I SAID NO! ACCEPT NO FOR AN ANSWER AND STOP FORCING YOURSELF ON ME!

They only quoted you. So you blocked them, but can't bother to continue to ignore them? That's a you problem.
That's as if I went On Leauge of legends, muted a player, and then unmuted them just to complain about them trying to talk to me. Like bruh you have tools to ignore what they say, and you actively defeat the purpose of using them.

 

[CraddaPoosta]

Japan lacks diversity and I have it on good authority that diversity is a strength. We probably shouldn't look to Japan for any wisdom for that reason.

I see what you did there.

Diversity, by itself, doesn't add anything when it comes to competence or capability or ability. I mean, if we're all the same, no matter what race or gender or religion you are, then isn't diversity moot in the first place? Aren't we already one homogenous hodgepodge of self-entitlement and superiority, as 'Murikkkans?

Since we're both playing Devil's Advocate here, it's pleasant to know at least SOMEONE else out there sees through the bullshit and inconsistencies.

They only quoted you. So you blocked them, but can't bother to continue to ignore them? That's a you problem.
That's as if I went On Leauge of legends, muted a player, and then unmuted them just to complain about them trying to talk to me. Like bruh you have tools to ignore what they say, and you actively defeat the purpose of using them.

This man has REPEATEDLY been asked and then commanded to not speak to me. The same person gets the fuse lit on his manpon when you refuse to obey HIS desire to be recognized as his lie. I am once again using YOUR words, leftist.
What part of NO! do you not comprehend? Do you want people to respect it when you tell them NO?

But here you are, defending a man who refuses to do the same. Why? Why can't you respect my negation of consent? I SAID NO!

Where's your #MeToo bullshit now? He keeps forcing himself on me. And you are trying to be an enabler.

There's the left for ya.

This is why the US is so divided. One side wants to call ALL the shots and force everyone else to do everything that THEY refuse to do. It's the hypocrisy, more than anything else.

Which is why I am a SOUTH PARK LIBERTARIAN. The comedy comes from YOU. Still a Libertarian, but one who enjoys laughing hysterically at both sides and making fun of all of it, all along the way, because it's all a fucking joke.

I'd much rather laugh at life than cry because of it. I'd rather laugh than be offended or angry.

Get over yourselves. All of you.

 

[Foxi4]

Expecting the invading force to retreat is not diplomacy. That's called war.

Retreating when called upon is diplomacy. Retreating once your forces are beaten within an inch of their lives is (losing) a war. Russia is an uninvited aggressor and they should be fought relentlessly until they retreat or perish, that’s the only fair resolution. Their war machine is significantly larger, which makes that scenario unlikely, but I’m willing to bet Ukrainians are more than willing to die testing that theory

As for everybody else, this isn’t a thread about @LainaGabranth and what their gender is, so you ought to cut it out right about now. There won’t be any further warnings in this regard.

 

[CraddaPoosta]

Retreating when called upon is diplomacy. Retreating once your forces are beaten within an inch of their lives is (losing) a war. Russia is an uninvited aggressor and they should be fought relentlessly until they retreat or perish, that’s the only fair resolution. Their war machine is significantly larger, which makes that scenario unlikely, but I’m willing to bet Ukrainians are more than willing to die testing that theory

As for everybody else, this isn’t a thread about @LainaGabranth and what their gender is, so you ought to cut it out right about now. There won’t be any further warnings in this regard.

The topic IS about the division in America, and the "transgender" social justice war is a major component of that.

Pointing out specific examples of people belonging to that "community" being less-than-friendly, stalking people, trolling them, inentionally trying to bait them and all of the other wonderful things that SOME of these folks do is 100% on-topic.

The other day, CommanderCool was calling people retards and directly, openly flaming anyone who didn't agree with him. He didn't get a warning. He got a "topic cleanup". I wonder why you made that decision? Pretty sure calling someone a RETARD is absolutely against the ToS.

We are divided because SOME folks on the left refuse to obey the same rules they want to enforce on others.

Discuss.

 

[TraderPatTX]

The topic IS about the division in America, and the "transgender" social justice war is a major component of that.

Pointing out specific examples of people belonging to that "community" being less-than-friendly, stalking people, trolling them, inentionally trying to bait them and all of the other wonderful things that SOME of these folks do is 100% on-topic.

The other day, CommanderCool was calling people retards and directly, openly flaming anyone who didn't agree with him. He didn't get a warning. He got a "topic cleanup". I wonder why you made that decision? Pretty sure calling someone a RETARD is absolutely against the ToS.

We are divided because SOME folks on the left refuse to obey the same rules they want to enforce on others.

Discuss.

CommanderCool spent a week in the corner for his bad behavior previously.

 

[CraddaPoosta]

CommanderCool spent a week in the corner for his bad behavior previously.

I got two weeks for my first offense.

Again. Make it make sense.
And you were on that topic. The only thing I said was "Rainbow Nazi Party" in reference to the left. But, you can see on THIS VERY TOPIC how many conservatives have been openly called Nazis, or accused of association with the Nazi party, and... nothing.

So, it's perfectly fine to call anyone on the right a Nazi. But do the EXACT SAME THING in return, and BOOM! Cancelled.

One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't make sense.

There are some good and decent moderators here. That's a good place to leave it. Read every word carefully. End with a positive statement.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Retreating when called upon is diplomacy. Retreating once your forces are beaten within an inch of their lives is (losing) a war. Russia is an uninvited aggressor and they should be fought relentlessly until they retreat or perish, that’s the only fair resolution. Their war machine is significantly larger, which makes that scenario unlikely, but I’m willing to bet Ukrainians are more than willing to die testing that theory

It'll be interesting to see Ukraine beat a bigger, stronger country with enough nukes to make every square mile of Ukraine the same as Chernobyl. Nobody seems interested to sit down and talk, except for Putin. There's nothing wrong with at least trying to sit down and talk. Why is everybody completely against this?

Did Zelenskyy ever apologize for shooting missiles into your country and killing Polish citizens, because he just did the same to Belarus.

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I got two weeks for my first offense.

Again. Make it make sense.
And you were on that topic. The only thing I said was "Rainbow Nazi Party" in reference to the left. But, you can see on THIS VERY TOPIC how many conservatives have been openly called Nazis, or accused of association with the Nazi party, and... nothing.

So, it's perfectly fine to call anyone on the right a Nazi. But do the EXACT SAME THING in return, and BOOM! Cancelled.

One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't make sense.

There are some good and decent moderators here. That's a good place to leave it. Read every word carefully. End with a positive statement.

This entire thread is meant to focus on our differences to cause arguments and hopefully get people banned from the forums. Maybe I should start a new thread highlighting the things we actually agree on.

The very least, it would be a more interesting topic than focusing on our differences and further dividing us.

 

[LainaGabranth]

You have been commanded, repeatedly, NOT to speak to me, sir.

I have you blocked. I only saw this because you tagged me.

Stop speaking to me. Stop tagging me. Stop mentioning my name.

NO MEANS NO! I SAID NO! ACCEPT NO FOR AN ANSWER AND STOP FORCING YOURSELF ON ME!

OH GOD I FORGOT WHO YOU WERE LOL

ARE YOU THAT NARUTO AVI WHO GOT MAD AT ME LMFAOOOOO
i literally do not even fucking remember you i just see some new name rambling off about being a pedotarian

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Retreating when called upon is diplomacy. Retreating once your forces are beaten within an inch of their lives is (losing) a war. Russia is an uninvited aggressor and they should be fought relentlessly until they retreat or perish, that’s the only fair resolution. Their war machine is significantly larger, which makes that scenario unlikely, but I’m willing to bet Ukrainians are more than willing to die testing that theory

As for everybody else, this isn’t a thread about @LainaGabranth and what their gender is, so you ought to cut it out right about now. There won’t be any further warnings in this regard.

why would you stop the seething, it's fucking hilarious
please don't white knight for me thank you

 

[mrmagicm]

USA is becoming WEAK because of division, everybody in the world noticed that.......That's all FOLKS!! **

This is due from the LEFT wing of your parties trying to improve the wishs of minorities at all cost making woke decisions...If they make some more individually happier, they globally makes you weaker. Soon, immigration, BLM, LGBT, other minorities who want to have their voice listened will reduce the power of your own country and will complain at the end because the cake becomes "smaller", they have already done it to Europe.

 

[ack]

USA is becoming WEAK because of division, everybody in the world noticed that.......That's all FOLKS!! **

This is due from the LEFT wing of your parties trying to improve the wishs of minorities at all cost making woke decisions...If they make some more individually happier, they globally makes you weaker. Soon, immigration, BLM, LGBT, other minorities who want to have their voice listened will reduce the power of your own country and will complain at the end because the cake becomes "smaller", they have already done it to Europe.

bro wants to take away rights from black people

 

[smf]

This is why the US is so divided. One side wants to call ALL the shots and force everyone else to do everything that THEY refuse to do.

This argument can be used against "both sides".

The right just is better at throwing tantrums

Soon, immigration, BLM, LGBT, other minorities who want to have their voice listened will reduce the power of your own country and will complain at the end because the cake becomes "smaller", they have already done it to Europe.

Yes, it happened in Europe after we defeated the Nazi's.

 

[TraderPatTX]

bro wants to take away rights from black people

All U.S. citizens already have equal rights.

 

[ack]

All U.S. citizens already have equal rights.

didnt ask

 

[TraderPatTX]

This argument can be used against "both sides".

The right just is better at throwing tantrums

The left has a long history covering decades of throwing tantrums. From spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam, bombing the Capitol, almost tearing down the doors to the Supreme Court, gluing their hands to whatever is around, sitting in the middle of the road, burning down buildings, attacking law enforcement, trying to cancel Goya and Joe Rogan, creating the KKK, assassinating presidents and the desire for little kids to see grown men simulate sex on a stage.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

 

[ack]

The left has a long history covering decades of throwing tantrums. From spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam, bombing the Capitol, almost tearing down the doors to the Supreme Court, gluing their hands to whatever is around, sitting in the middle of the road, burning down buildings, attacking law enforcement, trying to cancel Goya and Joe Rogan, creating the KKK, assassinating presidents and the desire for little kids to see grown men simulate sex on a stage.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

How many coups has the left tried, again? Zero? And how many coups has the right tried? Huh...

Oh and if you're going to make all those claims, you gotta include sources. Facts don't care about your feelings and all that.

 

[mrmagicm]

Ack: You just can't argue with the result....The state has never been more dangerously divided, and everyone thinks it's the truth. I think right wing (always the conservative) in many countries are becoming fed up of the left wing using social media complaining about egality all the time, as you get the egality you deserve in all country with your work, not by force..
As usual, you take the skull icon or other words and brandish it like a sword , and blind yourself the real reason of this fact.

 

[ack]

I see what you did there.

Diversity, by itself, doesn't add anything when it comes to competence or capability or ability. I mean, if we're all the same, no matter what race or gender or religion you are, then isn't diversity moot in the first place? Aren't we already one homogenous hodgepodge of self-entitlement and superiority, as 'Murikkkans?

Since we're both playing Devil's Advocate here, it's pleasant to know at least SOMEONE else out there sees through the bullshit and inconsistencies.


This man has REPEATEDLY been asked and then commanded to not speak to me. The same person gets the fuse lit on his manpon when you refuse to obey HIS desire to be recognized as his lie. I am once again using YOUR words, leftist.
What part of NO! do you not comprehend? Do you want people to respect it when you tell them NO?

But here you are, defending a man who refuses to do the same. Why? Why can't you respect my negation of consent? I SAID NO!

Where's your #MeToo bullshit now? He keeps forcing himself on me. And you are trying to be an enabler.

There's the left for ya.

This is why the US is so divided. One side wants to call ALL the shots and force everyone else to do everything that THEY refuse to do. It's the hypocrisy, more than anything else.

Which is why I am a SOUTH PARK LIBERTARIAN. The comedy comes from YOU. Still a Libertarian, but one who enjoys laughing hysterically at both sides and making fun of all of it, all along the way, because it's all a fucking joke.

I'd much rather laugh at life than cry because of it. I'd rather laugh than be offended or angry.

Get over yourselves. All of you.

that's not very libertarian of you man, you need to respect his first amendment right to tag you. If it bothers you, then it's your responsibility to fix it.

What is the libertarian view on verbal harassment? What rights does it violate, if any? (n.d.). Quora. https://qr.ae/prneR7

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Ack: You just can't argue with the result....The state has never been more dangerously divided, and everyone thinks it's the truth. I think right wing (always the conservative) in many countries are becoming fed up of the left wing using social media complaining about egality all the time, as you get the egality you deserve in all country with your work, not by force.
Same thing from you...As usual, you take the skull icon or other words and brandish it like a sword , and blind yourself the real reason of this fact.

cite a source man