London Terror Attack(s)

[Onepunchbruh]

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He just pretends like he knows something. While he doesn't have clue like what he knows. Just emotional air claims he make nothing else. He said God doesn't exist now he believes Jesus is God. I know he's a undercover christian pretending to be atheist. He's a fraud for sure.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

He just pretends like he knows something. While he doesn't have clue like what he knows. Just emotional air claims he make nothing else. He said God doesn't exist now he believes Jesus is God. I know he's a undercover christian pretending to be atheist. He's a fraud for sure.

Are you insane? I can talk about what Taoism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism teaches without adhering to any of these religions.
Do I become a Muslim if I explain Tawhid?

Now for the love of God/Allah turn your brain on for just a minute and explain this: How did the following man-made stories end up in the god-made Quran?

1) Jesus/Isa making clay birds and breathing life into them:
Infancy Gospel of Thomas ("Scholars generally agree on a date in the mid- to late-2nd century A.D"): "Breathes life into birds fashioned from clay"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas#Dating

2) Syriac Infancy Gospel (this Gospel is thought to have originated from Syriac sources dating back to the fifth or sixth century)
"One parallel story between an Infancy Gospel and the Quran is found in the Arabic Gospel Of The Infancy Of The Savior and Surah 19:29-34, where the story of Jesus speaking as a baby in the cradle in narrated."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Infancy_Gospel#Dating

3) Quran borrows from the Talmud (more exact: Sanhedrin 37).
"The entire Talmud consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is over 6,200 pages long. It is written in Tannaitic Hebrew and Jewish Babylonian Aramaic and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

Talmud (written by Rabbis!):
For this reason was man created alone, to teach thee that whosoever destroys a single soul of israel, scripture imputes to him as though he had destroyed a complete world; and whosoever preserves a single soul of israel, scripture ascribes to him as though he had preserved a complete world.

Quran:
“Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Dude I honestly understand your frustrations with religion, they all have a tendency to divert peoples' line of thinking in a similar manner, but I don't think the best display for yourself is to yell at believers for believing.

I'm Muslim born and raised but non practising nowadays (I don't really believe, at all) and the approach I've been taking since is just letting it go. Just leave it be and don't get mad when others don't, because starting shit that way could also be a part of the problem. Speaking as an insider from that community

I would disagree. I think shielding Islam from criticism allows Muslim apologists to get away with everything (even stupid claims like the Quran's scientific miralces), thereby keeping rational Muslims (of which there are many) within Islam and even converting others.

The virgin birth is not part of the earliest Christian sources (Paul letters: 20 years after Jesus' death; Mark: 40 years after Jesus death). Then Luke and Matthew mention it (50 years after his death) to emphasize the alleged divinity of Jesus. Then 150 years after Jesus' death somebody claims Jesus was not only born of a virgin but even performed miracles as a small child like breathing life into clay birds. This story ends up in the Quran and Muslims claim that Paul corrupted the story of Jesus but they confirm the bullshit stories virgin birth and the clay birds.
The only thing we know for sure about Jesus is that he was crucified. All historians agree on that (but the Quran denies it).
This needs to be taught to as many Muslims as possible. It breaks the Quran's alleged perfection and divine source.

 

[Onepunchbruh]

Are you insane? I can talk about what Taoism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism teaches without adhering to any of these religions.
Do I become a Muslim if I explain Tawhid?

Yeah exactly what I was telling just air claims. You know nothing about any of religion. You just know how to ignore & be a part of atheist cult/christianity.

Now for the love of God/Allah turn your brain on for just a minute and explain this: How did the following man-made stories end up in the god-made Quran?

1) Jesus/Isa making clay birds and breathing life into them:
Infancy Gospel of Thomas ("Scholars generally agree on a date in the mid- to late-2nd century A.D"): "Breathes life into birds fashioned from clay"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas#Dating

2) Syriac Infancy Gospel (this Gospel is thought to have originated from Syriac sources dating back to the fifth or sixth century)
"One parallel story between an Infancy Gospel and the Quran is found in the Arabic Gospel Of The Infancy Of The Savior and Surah 19:29-34, where the story of Jesus speaking as a baby in the cradle in narrated."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Infancy_Gospel#Dating

3) Quran borrows from the Talmud (more exact: Sanhedrin 37).
"The entire Talmud consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is over 6,200 pages long. It is written in Tannaitic Hebrew and Jewish Babylonian Aramaic and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

Talmud (written by Rabbis!):
For this reason was man created alone, to teach thee that whosoever destroys a single soul of israel, scripture imputes to him as though he had destroyed a complete world; and whosoever preserves a single soul of israel, scripture ascribes to him as though he had preserved a complete world.

Quran:
“Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people.

People have took many wrong meaning of the scriptures before that's what Quran repeat & explains in clear word. Like people made Jesus a god. Some also believe even Jesus never claimed to be he did miracles. Many prophets did miracles are they gods aswell? Some claim Jesus was born out of virgin Mary (Peace Be Upon Them) so that means jesus is God. Adam & Eve (Peace Be Upon Them) was born without parents does that means they are Gods aswell? These are just air claims which you support aswell. Yes I believe messengers did miracles but they did it through God not they had power of God but because God done those because God has power to control creation because he made it. Jesus himself said I can do nothing by myself. So who's doing the stuff? Isn't it father? Exactly my point.

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Also in the Bible it is said. He who believes in God is a Son of God. That doesn't mean we all are gods. These story of jesus being real son of god are just claims by uneducated people. They take stuff out of context like what you do to promote your agenda.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Pls don't quote me if you don't refer to my argument.
Explain to us how the 3 stories I mentioned ended up in the Quran even though they are clearly man-made.

Why do you act as if I promote the divinity of Jesus?! ?! ?! ?! ?!
I only explained how Muhammad didn't understand the trinity (neither do you). That doesn't make me a Christian.

 

[Onepunchbruh]

Explain to us how the 3 stories I mentioned ended up in the Quran even though they are clearly man-made.

You're just wasting my time. Read my last comment & you'll know.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Where? I can't see a response to it.

 

[sarkwalvein]

@UltraDolphinRevolution You have taken upon a task I considered impossible for humankind, that is trying to have a civilized discussion with a certain specific gbatemp user and trying to have a conversation at it.
Sorry for my lack of hope in this regards, but I still consider you will not be able to reach that goal, it may be a rightful dignified goal, but one that I consider it is not possible to reach.
Perhaps I am too much of a bad person that would (actually did) use the ignore button in such cases, but in the past it was just too much of a pain for nothing, I think you also are starting to put too much work into something that will end up being fruitless.
I think there is a strong message here, and it is that a conversation is not wanted, I don't know what you can do with that, but realize you are doing something as fruitful as talking to a wall.

 

[Onepunchbruh]

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This article sheds light on the similarities between some of the verses mentioned in the Quran and related messages in the Bible. It should be noted that the verses below are only some of the many where such parallels can be made between the two scriptures.

About the Scriptures mentioned in the Quran
Quran mentions that Allah (God) revealed the following scriptures / books to various nations. They are as follows:

• The scripture of Abraham: “…Then We had already given the family of Ibrahim (Abraham) the Book (Scripture) and Al-Hikmah (As-Sunnah – Divine Revelation to those Prophets not written in the form of a book), and conferred upon them a great kingdom.”Quran (4:54)
• The Psalms of David: “And your Lord knows best all who are in the heavens and the earth. And indeed, We have preferred some of the Prophets above others, and to Dawud (David) We gave the Zabur (Psalms).” Quran (17:55)
• The Torah: “Indeed, We gave the Book (Torah) to Musa (Moses)…”Quran (11:110)
• The Gospel: “Then, We sent after them Our Messengers, and We sent ‘Îsa (Jesus) – son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel)…” Quran (57:27)1
• The Quran: “Verily, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran in order that you may understand.” Quran (12:2)

According to Islamic belief, as the divine revealed books were changed by people over the years, hence there was need to refresh that message and the need for the final divine revelation – Quran – that God has promised will not change until end of time.

Here are the related Quran verses.

• About changing Allah’s original revelations: “Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, “This is from Allah (God),” to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.” Quran (2:79)
• Revelation of the final Divine message: “To thee (Muhammad) We sent the scripture (Quran) in truth confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety…” Quran (2:97)
• God’s promise to protect His final message: “Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption).” Quran (15:9)
• Closeness of Christians to Muslims: “…nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” Quran (5:82)

The following sections highlight similarities between some of the Quranic verses and verses as they are found recorded today in the New Testament books (Bible).

Belief that Allah (God) is the only Deity
Here are some of the verses on this topic from the Quran and also as it appears in the Bible today.

• Quran 2:255: “Allah! None has the right to be worshipped but He, The Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth.…”
• Quran 2:165: “And of mankind are some who take (for worship) others besides Allah as rivals (to Allah). They love them as they love Allah (God). But those who believe, love Allah more (than anything else).…”

The Bible says:

• Mark 12:28-30: (A teacher of the Law asked) “Which commandment is the most important of all?” Jesus replied, “The most important one is this: “Listen, Israel! The Lord our God is the only Lord. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.”

Belief in Angels
The Quran describes them as Allah’s creation who carry out duties assigned by Him with absolute obedience, such as recording our words and deeds, guarding us, taking our souls at death, praising God, asking forgiveness for those on earth, and those who conveyed divine messages to prophets, messengers, and the Virgin Mary.

• Quran 6:61: “…and He sends guardians (angels guarding and writing all of one’s good and bad deeds) over you, until when death approaches one of you, Our Messengers (angel of death and his assistants) take his soul, and they never neglect their duty.”
• Quran 86:4: “There is no human being but has a protector over him (or her) (i.e. angels in charge of each human being guarding him, writing his good and bad deeds).”
• Quran 42:5: …The angels exalt [God] with praise of their Lord and ask forgiveness for those on earth…
• Quran 3:39: “Then the angels called him (Zakariah), while he was standing in prayer in Al-Mihrab (a praying place or a private room), (saying): “Allah gives you glad tidings of Yahya (John)…”

The New Testament states the following:

• Exodus 23:20: “I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared.”1
• Revelations 7: 11: “All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God.”
• Luke 15:10: …The angels of God rejoice over one sinner who repents.
• Luke 1:11-13: Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense.… The angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him the name John.

Belief in Prophets
Muslims believe in all prophets and messengers of Allah who were sent at different times to their people to lead them to the path of God. The Quran says, “We sent no messenger before you [O Muhammad] without revealing to him: There is no god but Me so worship Me.” (Quran, 21:25). The Quran says that the faithful believe “in God, His angels, His books and His messengers, [saying], ‘We make no distinction between any of His messengers…’” (2:285)

• Quran (21:25): “And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad but We revealed to him (saying): None has the right to be worshipped but I (Allah), so worship Me (Alone and none else).”
• Quran (2:285): “The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say), “We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers” – and they say, “We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all).”

The following are the names of the prophets that are mentioned both in the Quran and the Bible. The names pronounced in Arabic appear in parentheses.

• Adam (Aadam)
• Enoch (Idrees)
• Noah (Nuh)
• Salih
• Abraham (Ibrahim)
• Ishmael (Ismaeel)
• Issac (Ishaq)
• Lot (Lut)
• Jacob (Yacoob)
• Joseph (Yusuf)
• Job (Ayyub)
• Moses (Moosa)
• Ezekiel (Thul-kifl)
• David (Dawud)
• Solomon (Sulaiman)
• Elias
• Elisha (Al-Yasa)
• Jonah (Yunus)
• Zachariah
• John (Yahya)

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Regarding God’s power, following are some of the verses.

• Quran 57:22: “No calamity befalls on the earth or in yourselves but it is inscribed in the Book of Decrees (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz) before We bring it into existence. Verily, that is easy for Allah.”
• Quran (63:64): “Then tell Me about the seed that you sow in the ground. Is it you that make it grow, or are We the Grower?”

The New Testament states the following:

• John 1:3: Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made.
• 1 Corinthians 3:7: So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.

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Belief in the Hereafter and Accountability before God
Some of the verses related to resurrection in the hereafter and accountability of ones actions are the following:

• Quran (3:185): “Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).”
• Quran 39:68: “And the Trumpet will be blown, and all who are in the heavens and all who are on the earth will swoon away, except him whom Allah wills. Then it will be blown a second time, and behold they will be standing, looking on (waiting).”
• Quran 21:47: “And We shall set up balances of justice on the Day of Resurrection, then none will be dealt with unjustly in anything. And if there be the weight of a mustard seed, We will bring it. And Sufficient are We to take account.”

The Bible says:

• Mathew 12:33: And you can be sure than on the Judgment Day everyone will have to give account of every useless word he has ever spoken. Your words will be used to judge you – to declare you either innocent or guilty.
• Mark 5:28-29: …All who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out–those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.
• Revelations 21:8: But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur.1
• Matthew 13: 41-43: This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
• Mathew 5:12: Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven ….

Belief in Prayer
The need to establish prayers is mentioned numerous times in the Quran. Allah says:

• Quran 20:14: “Verily! I am Allah! None has the right to be worshipped but I, so worship Me, and perform As-Salat (prayers) for My Remembrance.”

The Bible says:

• Mathew 26:36: Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, “Sit here while I go over there and pray.” 39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed…
• Mark 1:35: Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.

Belief in Fasting

• Quran 2:183: “O you who believe! Observing As-Saum (the fasting) is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you (Christians, Jews), that you may become Al-Muttaqun (pious)”

The Bible says:

• Mathew 9:14: Then John’s disciples came and asked him, “How is it that we and the Pharisees fast, but your disciples do not fast?”
• Luke 2:37: (about a prophetess who) was a widow until she was eighty-four. She never left the temple but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying.

Belief in Alms and Charity
The importance of charity is stressed in numerous places in the Quran.

• Quran 9:60: “As-Sadaqat (here it means Zakat – obligatory charity) are only for the poor, and Al-Masakin (the poor) and those employed to collect (the funds), and to attract the hearts of those who have been inclined (towards Islam), and to free the captives, and for those in debt, and for Allah’s Cause, and for the wayfarer (a traveler who is cut off from everything); a duty imposed by Allah. And Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise.”
• Quran 2:219: “…And they ask you what they ought to spend. Say: “That which is beyond your needs…”
• Quran (19:55): “And he (Ismail) used to enjoin on his family and his people prayers and the Zakat (obligatory charity) and his Lord was pleased with him.”

The Bible says on charity:

• Acts 10:2: He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly.
• 1 Timothy 5:8: If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
• Luke 3:11: John answered, “The man with two tunics should share with him who has none, and the one who has food should do the same.”

About the “Prophethood” of Jesus in Quran and Bible
The following are the verses of Jesus’ prophet hood that appear both in the Quran and the Bible.

• Quran 19:29-32: “Then she (Mary) pointed to him. They said: “How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle? “He [‘Îsa (Jesus)] said: “Verily I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet; And He has made me blessed wheresoever I be, and has enjoined on me Salat (prayer), and Zakat (charity), as long as I live. And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.”
• Quran (3:49): “And will make him [(‘Îsa (Jesus)] a Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I design for you out of clay, a figure like that of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah’s Leave; and I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by Allah’s (God’s) Leave. And I inform you of what you eat, and what you store in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for you, if you believe.”

The Bible says the following on Jesus prophethood:

• Mathew 13:57: And so they rejected him (in Nazareth). Jesus said to them, “A prophet is respected everywhere except in his home town and by his own family.”
• Mathew 21:10-11: When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was thrown into an uproar. Who is he? The people asked. “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee,” the crowds answered.
• Mathew 21:45: The chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables and knew that he was talking about them, so they tried to arrest him. But they were afraid of the crowds who considered Jesus to be a prophet.“
• Luke 7:16: (After Jesus brought a dead man to life) They were all filled with fear and praised God. “A great prophet has appeared among us!” they said.
• Luke 24:19: “…Jesus of Nazareth…This man was a prophet and was considered by God and by all the people to be powerful in everything he said and did.”

The Difference…
The main difference between Christianity and Islam is reflected in the following Quranic verse:

• Quran (4:171): O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah (God) aught but the truth. The Messiah ‘Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, (“Be!” – and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh ) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: “Three (trinity)!” Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (Deity / God), glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.

 

[Vipera]

Bottomline is if anyone thinks banning/restricting the entry of Muslims is in any way a good idea (we have a common enemy! Muslims hate ISIS too! and war! Please help!) then you need a bit of a reality check.

Did you call for a reality check? Here you go:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

The 615-page survey found that more than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts.

Moreover, only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.

23% of British Muslims said Islamic Sharia law should replace British law in areas with large Muslim populations.

On social issues, 52% of the Muslims surveyed said they believe homosexuality should be illegal, compared to 22% of non-Muslim Britons. Nearly half believe it is unacceptable for a gay or lesbian to teach their children.

There are over 2 million muslims in the Uk. At least 400.000 want the sharia law to replace the British law. Over one million thinks gays should be illegal and be a parent at all. Then, of course, there are 100.000 people who sympathize with terrorists and two thirds of those 2 million "moderates" who wouldn't report to the police.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

@Haider Raza : Thank you for proving that are not able to think for yourself.
You didn't address my point about man-made stories in the Quran at all.
Sadly, I wasted my time with you.

 

[Onepunchbruh]

Sadly, I wasted my time with you.

Well that's your opinion.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Did you call for a reality check? Here you go:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey









There are over 2 million muslims in the Uk. At least 400.000 want the sharia law to replace the British law. Over one million thinks gays should be illegal and be a parent at all. Then, of course, there are 100.000 people who sympathize with terrorists and two thirds of those 2 million "moderates" who wouldn't report to the police.

My dude

You've been lied to

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Hey @UltraDolphinRevolution, you never replied to my post.
Anyway, that Haider guy was someone I ignored a while back, he's pretty insane if you ask me.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Religions are dumb. The religious are unfortunately being duped. It's okay, we all make mistakes. The problem is when you double down on your mistake and hurt innocent people in its name. At that point you move from being duped to being reprehensible evil.

I disagree that religions are dumb, but I'm not here to debate that.

Are you insane? I can talk about what Taoism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism teaches without adhering to any of these religions.
Do I become a Muslim if I explain Tawhid?

Now for the love of God/Allah turn your brain on for just a minute and explain this: How did the following man-made stories end up in the god-made Quran?

1) Jesus/Isa making clay birds and breathing life into them:
Infancy Gospel of Thomas ("Scholars generally agree on a date in the mid- to late-2nd century A.D"): "Breathes life into birds fashioned from clay"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas#Dating

2) Syriac Infancy Gospel (this Gospel is thought to have originated from Syriac sources dating back to the fifth or sixth century)
"One parallel story between an Infancy Gospel and the Quran is found in the Arabic Gospel Of The Infancy Of The Savior and Surah 19:29-34, where the story of Jesus speaking as a baby in the cradle in narrated."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Infancy_Gospel#Dating

3) Quran borrows from the Talmud (more exact: Sanhedrin 37).
"The entire Talmud consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is over 6,200 pages long. It is written in Tannaitic Hebrew and Jewish Babylonian Aramaic and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

Talmud (written by Rabbis!):
For this reason was man created alone, to teach thee that whosoever destroys a single soul of israel, scripture imputes to him as though he had destroyed a complete world; and whosoever preserves a single soul of israel, scripture ascribes to him as though he had preserved a complete world.

Quran:
“Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people.

How do you know these Apocryphal aren't true and that the Quran merely corrected the accepted canon?
As for the Quranic verse, yes, the Talmud was written by Rabbi's but you obviously haven't done enough research as it contain's two components.
The oral Torah and the Gemara. Simply put, this oral Torah is where you got the quote from and therefore doesn't make the Quran incorrect.
To argue that similar stories appeared in Apocrypha and were therefore stolen is just irrational.
Also, did you use wiki Islam for this, by any chance?

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

How do you know these Apocryphal aren't true and that the Quran merely corrected the accepted canon?
As for the Quranic verse, yes, the Talmud was written by Rabbi's but you obviously haven't done enough research as it contain's two components.
The oral Torah and the Gemara. Simply put, this oral Torah is where you got the quote from and therefore doesn't make the Quran incorrect.
To argue that similar stories appeared in Apocrypha and were therefore stolen is just irrational.
Also, did you use wiki Islam for this, by any chance?

I used Wiki-Islam for finding the translation quickly, not for my research. I knew this for many years.
How does it not make the Quran man-made? Are you saying parts of the Talmud are inspired by God?!
I haven't met any Muslim who makes that claim. I believe there is even a Hadith in which Muhammad says there were no prophets in the time between Jesus and him. Pls elaborate.

As for your older post. Was it the one about situational stuff in the Quran? (p.23 of this thread)
I fail to see how situational stuff, e.g. that Muhammad can keep on having sex with a certain woman even if his other wives disapprove and that Allah can give him better wives if they don't behave, could be of any benefit for the future.

You said situational stuff could be useful in the future in case there will be a just war (we disagree on whether 9:29 and 9:30 is situational).
So one day it would be good advice from God to hit the enemies above their neck (i.e. beheading them) and cut off their finger tips? Wow, I don't want to be in a war with you (neither on an opposing nor the same side). Would you also take sex slaves in battle and do you think it's good to have sex with married women who your army defeated? Sounds a lot like ISIS, if you ask me. The difference would be that you are not ready to fight because you think there isn't a just war (yet).

You said God might have had his reasons for not making perfectly clear which parts of the Quran are always valid and which are not. Since he is all-knowing and I'm not. Granted, but this argument kills any discussion. It's like Christians saying maybe it was a good thing that 5-year old Bobby was blown to pieces by a thunderstorm. God must have had his reasons. Maybe the Holocaust had a purpose. There are actually Jews who believe that.
Which brings me to a two-part question for you:
a) Do you believe that God punishes in this life? (not only in the hereafter)
b) Do you believe God punishes people through other people? E.g. in the Bible God punishes the Canaanites through/by the Jews. I believe it's in the Quran as well but I can't remember the context. I believe it somewhere says "it was not you who killed them, it was Allah".

 

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The religion of peace.

 

[Haloman800]

Muslim mayor tells British citizens "You just have to deal with Muslims committing terrorist attacks".

How is this surprising? Why is he still mayor? Countries like Poland have ZERO terrorism, you know why? Because they have close to 0% Muslims.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Muslim mayor tells British citizens "You just have to deal with Muslims committing terrorist attacks".

How is this surprising? Why is he still mayor? Countries like Poland have ZERO terrorism, you know why? Because they have close to 0% Muslims.

Unless I missed something I'm fairly certain that's not a direct quote

 

[Haloman800]

Unless I missed something I'm fairly certain that's not a direct quote

No, the quote is in the OP. He said that terrorism is part of living in a big city. Warsaw, Poland, is a "Big city" and they have zero terrorism. Seoul, South Korea is the same.

High Muslim population = terrorism.