Believe Accusers!

[KingVamp]

I hope all this backfires on them. Clearly the whole system needs to be fixed and significantly safeguarded.

Too much power is being given to people, that simply doesn't care.

 

[Viri]

I applaud and congratulate the U.S. Senate for confirming our GREAT NOMINEE, Judge Brett Kavanaugh, to the United States Supreme Court. Later today, I will sign his Commission of Appointment, and he will be officially sworn in. Very exciting!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 6, 2018

 

[Hanafuda]

Yep, Kavanaugh is going to be the fourth supreme court justice nominated by a president who didn't win the popular vote. We are witnessing the dying breaths of Democracy in the US.

Jesus Christ. The popular vote means NOTHING in a Presidential election. The USA is not a democracy, never was, never intended to be. Find another country if that's what you want, or else start the revolution.

I'm out. Star Wars Prequels are crap.

 

[kingfrost]

Jesus Christ. The popular vote means NOTHING in a Presidential election. The USA is not a democracy, never was, never intended to be.

I'm out. Star Wars Prequels are crap.

It's a Democratic Republic. Some local decisions are made democratically and for large mostly federal decisions we elect representatives.

You misrepresent what others are saying for your personal goals. Without the democratic principles that are a part of our country, we wouldn't be the United States.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion about a move.

Edit:BTW the only person who mentioned the popular vote is you. Like our president, his supporters seem hung up on losing it.

 

[Joe88]

Edit:BTW the only person who mentioned the popular vote is you. Like our president, his supporters seem hung up on losing it.

Xzi mentioned it on the last page https://gbatemp.net/threads/believe-accusers.519412/page-14#post-8321748

 

[Viri]

Edit:BTW the only person who mentioned the popular vote is you. Like our president, his supporters seem hung up on losing it.

Are you blind? He's literally quoting a post mentioning the popular vote.

 

[kingfrost]

Xzi mentioned it on the last page https://gbatemp.net/threads/believe-accusers.519412/page-14#post-8321748

Are you blind? He's literally quoting a post mentioning the popular vote.

So here we go. I made a mistake not seeing that. It's great and I'm allowed to. I own up to that.

So can either of you answer how we aren't at least partly a Democratic country? Anyone want to address anything else in my post? No?

Edit:Just released if I sniffed and licked my lips repeatedly I'd basically be Kavanaugh right now.

 

[kuwanger]

And if your case somehow did make it to the Supreme Court, I would suggest you treat them with respect, as that case must be very important.

How about, I'll treat him with all the respect he showed the SCJ, including with all the emotionalism? Oh, right, that only works when you have a majority in your pocket from the start supporting your position no matter what you say or do.

 

[Hanafuda]

So here we go. I made a mistake not seeing that. It's great and I'm allowed to. I own up to that.

So can either of you answer how we aren't at least partly a Democratic country? Anyone want to address anything else in my post? No?

Edit:Just released if I sniffed and licked my lips repeatedly I'd basically be Kavanaugh right now.

Ok, since you're asking about it ...

partly Democratic? sure.

Local/state can be as 'democratic' as they wanna be. They have their own constitutions and laws, has nothing to do with the Federal government. The United States Federal Government though is a Representative Republic, where the members of Congress and the President are chosen by indirect democracy. And until the 17th Amendment, there was no election for US senators. State governors appointed them. So every action of the Federal government has ALWAYS had at least one level of separation from direct democracy, and usually more. Remember that even the President is not elected by the people. The people elect Electors, who then vote in the actual Presidential election.

 

[SG854]

Polygraphs are not lie detecters. They can be fooled.

An Ex Boyfriend said that Ford since she's a psychologist helped a friend on how to take a polygraph. Strange that she said she doesn't know polygrpahs since it's her profession. And he said she never showed a fear of flying. And that Ford did credit card fraud. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ch...for-potential-polygraph-grassley-sounds-alarm.

Ford goes from crying then to acting normal smiling straight right after like it's no big deal. And she keeps talking in a high pitched innocent sounding tiny girl voice. And she's constantly trying to do that pretty girl pose and trying to look cute. And her crying croakyness sounds manufactured, she didn't get a tissue to clear her supposed flem that caused her supposed croakyness in her throat either, did it just magically go away. It seems like she's using emotion to manipulate. It sounds like a prepared speech. I'm not buying it.

 

[Tigran]

In other words, "Your honor"

Glad you're so happy. Hope you are happy when somethign fucks you over and everyone just ignores it... or when you are raped or abused and everyone goes "HERP DERP! DON'T BELIEVE HIM!"

 

[Xzi]

The USA is not a democracy, never was, never intended to be.

It was always intended to be a Democratic Republic. We left the British empire because we weren't receiving sufficient representation for paying taxes, and now we're right back to that same situation in 2018's USA. If not for democracy we might as well have stayed a monarchy, because oligarchy is turning out to be so much worse than that in several ways. More precisely we're probably somewhere between an oligarchy and a banana republic at this point, which was always the danger for us if democracy's influence started waning.

 

[JiveTheTurkey]

Glad you're so happy. Hope you are happy when somethign fucks you over and everyone just ignores it... or when you are raped or abused and everyone goes "HERP DERP! DON'T BELIEVE HIM!"

I woke up drunk at a senior drinking party with a dick in my mouth. I don't blame anyone even the f* that did that to me except only myself.

 

[kingfrost]

Ok, since you're asking about it ...

partly Democratic? sure.

Local/state can be as 'democratic' as they wanna be. They have their own constitutions and laws, has nothing to do with the Federal government. The United States Federal Government though is a Representative Republic, where the members of Congress and the President are chosen by indirect democracy. And until the 17th Amendment, there was no election for US senators. State governors appointed them. So every action of the Federal government has ALWAYS had at least one level of separation from direct democracy, and usually more. Remember that even the President is not elected by the people. The people elect Electors, who then vote in the actual Presidential election.

The electors vote based on the popular vote and have never broken from that in the history of the Republic. True, it's on a state by state basis, but that's hardly not democracy. You would have a point if they actually had.

So basically you're saying Democracy is a part of our government, whether direct or indirect. And no, The United States is a democratic Republic, in that we democratically elect representatives, whether electors, Senators, or Representatives. What we were before the 17th amendment is up for debates, but doesn't really matter unless it's abolished. I'm sure many people will pick through my words and try to find something to contradict, while ignoring any ridiculous claims of their own side.

Polygraphs are not lie detecters. They can be fooled.

An Ex Boyfriend said that Ford since she's a psychologist helped a friend on how to take a polygraph. Strange that she said she doesn't know polygrpahs since it's her profession. And he said she never showed a fear of flying. And that Ford did credit card fraud. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ch...for-potential-polygraph-grassley-sounds-alarm.

Ford goes from crying then to acting normal smiling straight right after like it's no big deal. And she keeps talking in a high pitched innocent sounding tiny girl voice. And she's constantly trying to do that pretty girl pose and trying to look cute. And her crying croakyness sounds manufactured, she didn't get a tissue to clear her supposed flem that caused her supposed croakyness in her throat either, did it just magically go away. It seems like she's using emotion to manipulate. It sounds like a prepared speech. I'm not buying it.

And what did Kavanaugh do? I've never said I believed her or didn't, but I find it hilarious that you point out things she did that may her untrustworthy then he then turned around and did. It show how both sides are just making partisan attacks. Kavanaugh repeatedly got angry, cried, got angry again, then acted calm and smug, verbally sparred with Senators, cried some more, and had all of those weird verbal tics.

Yet again you're repeating things that have never be collaborated. An ex boyfriend said them and no proof was ever fine. Let me get this straight, Kavanaugh gets the benefit of the doubt when multiple women say something, and it's false accusations. A single ex can say something, and it's absolutely true and quotable as fact. Do you see the hypocrisy there? My ex told people all sorts of stuff about me one he was a few states away. It seems that people who are against false accusations only care when those false accusations don't benefit them.

To the Republican party and neoconservatives, if you're against false accusations, maybe you shouldn't repeat them constantly, and then expect everyone to believe you when you say there are some against you. We all make mistakes, true, but if you want na apology from Dr. Ford why not also push for one from Donald Trump and his surrogates who falsely accused Hilary Clinton of dying, she's still alive and fine, murdering 4 American soldiers in Benghazi, even if she was responsible there's a different between that and her physically murdering them, and for saying she killed Vince Foster. There is no proof she did those things, no collaboration, no investigation, and yet they are regularly repeated by the party and its surrogates as fact. For that matter apologize to Megyn Kelly for implying that asking hard questions means she's on her period, as I'm sure they didn't check her afterwards. All false accusations, and no apologies.

I woke up drunk at a senior drinking party with a dick in my mouth. I don't blame anyone even the f* that did that to me except only myself.

So we're supposed to just believe you? We need corroboration of this, and actual physical evidence that it happened.

Also your statement is paramount to if a woman or men is drunk, they deserved to be sexually assaulted or raped. I expected as much, but that doesn't make it anymore right. In fact, the kind of attitude you just demonstrated is a lot like the attitude sexual assault victims face from people in general.

"oh you had.a beer, so you were asking for it" is basically how your comment translates into reality.

 

[Viri]

Glad you're so happy. Hope you are happy when somethign fucks you over and everyone just ignores it... or when you are raped or abused and everyone goes "HERP DERP! DON'T BELIEVE HIM!"

Well, I'm a guy, so that probably would already happen. Esp, if a girl rapes me. If a guy rapes me, dw, I'll report the rape asap, not 30 years later. I'll report when the dna is still in my asshole!

 

[kingfrost]

Well, I'm a guy, so that probably would already happen. Esp, if a girl rapes me. If a guy rapes me, dw, I'll report the rape asap, not 30 years later. I'll report when the dna is still in my asshole!

I know you don't know this, but a majority of rape kits in the US go untested because of the cost. Your precious asshole dna would be no different.

As for rape by woman, blame the right. They're the ones who believe no red blooded patriot could ever be be raped by a woman. Just like he could never rape a woman.

 

[Viri]

I know you don't know this, but a majority of rape kits in the US go untested because of the cost. Your precious asshole dna would be no different.

As for rape by woman, blame the right. They're the ones who believe no red blooded patriot could ever be be raped by a woman. Just like he could never rape a woman.

I looked up my city, we don't have a huge of a backlog of rape tests. So, my asshole cum would come in handy! Either way, I wouldn't wait 30 years to report my rapist. 2 years tops, and I can get revenge on my rapist, and probably by my own hands!

 

[kingfrost]

I looked up my city, we don't have a huge of a backlog of rape tests. So, my asshole cum would come in handy! Either way, I wouldn't wait 30 years to report my rapist. 2 years tops, and I can get revenge on my rapist, and probably by my own hands!

Mhm. I'm sure you have loads of proof that you just forgot to share.

It's funny you end your post about justice for rape by saying you'd take part in vigilante justice which is against the rule of law. It says so much about you.

 

[Viri]

Mhm. I'm sure you have loads of proof that you just forgot to share.

It's funny you end your post about justice for rape by saying you'd take part in vigilante justice which is against the rule of law. It says so much about you.

I know! If someone held me down, raped me, and I found them, I would take the law into my own hands.

 

[kingfrost]

I know! If someone held me down, raped me, and I found them, I would take the law into my own hands.

Here we go everyone. What I've been waiting for. Viri has vehemently supported Judge Kavanaugh, a side that says we must have due process and respect the rule of the law.

When he thinks about what he would personally do if it raped, that all goes out the window and shows what a farce all this high horse nonsense from the Republicans has been.

Thank you Viri, I appreciate your candidate honesty and hope you realize that you just legitimized mob violence in the case of sexual assault. You have basically sad if Dr. Ford was raped by the Judge Kavanaugh, whether there is proof or not, as long as she knows she was, she should hunt him down and kill him with her own two hands.

An eye for an eye. I would never support that but you do.