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Viri

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I don't have to say anything. It means absolutely nothing to me.

In fact, from a purely personal point, this is the absolute best thing that could have happened. He will be excellent on the court for me and my interests.

Don't confuse hypothetical discussion about political principles with reality.
In other words, "Your honor" :)
 

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The REEEEEing was music to my ears, and made me laugh non stop. Also please say it with me, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, Brett M. Kavanaugh! Or, just "Your honor"
The only people that have been treating this like a team sport are the Republicans, as usual. Giving due consideration to a different, more qualified nominee was not an unreasonable or partisan request.

With another US institution de-legitimized, ultimately the only "winner" in this whole scenario is Putin. Kavanaugh sitting on the supreme court only further divides an already extremely divided nation.
 
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Yes you know, predators never hide for many years in public sight. Never ever. Can't name a single one.

Or are you claiming that was all false too?


I'm not sure what this is even about. Am I claiming what was all false, exactly?


Also you didn't change anything to make me happy. I'd rather you leave it all the same, so people can see the misleading bits.

I added a couple sentences to my post, to address your previous statement more thoroughly. I didn't alter the original content I'd posted, in fact you'd already quoted it in your next post while I was doing the edit/add.
 

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I don't think Mr. Kavanaugh feels the need for vindication as much you do. It must be sad not having wins of your own so you need his to feel better.
I hope you're used to calling him "Your honor", because he's going to be a judge for a loooong time!
 

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I hope you're used to calling him "Your honor", because he's going to be a judge for a loooong time!
Unless he's appearing in front of the supreme court, he can call Kavanaugh whatever the hell he wants to. For my part I wouldn't even call him "your honor" even if I had a case reach SCOTUS. "Your drunkenness" maybe though.
 

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Unless he's appearing in front of the supreme court, he can call Kavanaugh whatever the hell he wants to. For my part I wouldn't even call him "your honor" even if I had a case reach SCOTUS. "Your drunkenness" maybe though.
Well, depending on the case, if you don't treat a judge with respect, they're not going to rule in your favor. And if your case somehow did make it to the Supreme Court, I would suggest you treat them with respect, as that case must be very important. But hey, you do you! :D

Oh, and I like beer! :D
 

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I'm not sure what this is even about. Am I claiming what was all false, exactly?




I added a couple sentences to my post, to address your previous statement more thoroughly. I didn't alter the original content I'd posted, in fact you'd already quoted it in your next post while I was doing the edit/add.

Pointing out the hypocrisy at acting like only Trump supporters are accused of sexual assault. Here's the thing, plenty of then aren't accused of it at all. This whole, oh no one of them is, now everyone will be is a ridiculous strawman.

I saw what you added. In the end I don't care about the sexual assault claim to be honest, I care, from a purely ideological point, that he behaved like a child in front of a political committee and feed conspiracy theories at the same time.

I care that the conservative party wants to celebrate this whole charade as a victory, as you can see from some in this thread, when really all they have done is feed a massive amount of division in this country.

The Republican party had a change to seize the high ground in this, but told the Democrats hold my beer and proceeded to show us they can always win the political limbo contest.

I am glad that people are finally seeing Washington for what it actually is now. It's a repugnant cesspool, and has only gotten worse. Maybe one day, people will see past the partisanship and actually want to fix it.

Until then I might as well benefit from it.

Well, depending on the case, if you don't treat a judge with respect, they're not going to rule in your favor. And if your case somehow did make it to the Supreme Court, I would suggest you treat them with respect, as that case must be very important. But hey, you do you! :D

Oh, and I like beer! :D

That's not how the legal system actually works. Justices aren't supposed to nurture personal vendettas against the people in their courts. I've actually been in front of several judges, never called them your honor. I've said sir when I felt it was appropriate but not all the time either.

But enjoy your fantasy.
 
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Well, depending on the case, if you don't treat a judge with respect, they're not going to rule in your favor. And if your case somehow did make it to the Supreme Court, I would suggest you treat them with respect, as that case must be very important. But hey, you do you! :D
Kavanaugh isn't going to give rulings with any sort of impartiality anyway. He made that clear with his "Clintons and Soros" rant. The only positive highlight is that he will be a galvanizing force for the left as long as he sits on the court, and leftist views are still a vast majority in this country even if they don't get a majority of representation.
 
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I care that the conservative party wants to celebrate this whole charade as a victory, as you can see from some in this thread, when really all they have done is feed a massive amount of division in this country.

The Republican party had a change to seize the high ground in this, but told the Democrats hold my beer and proceeded to show us they can always win the political limbo contest.

Wait a second. The Republican party had a chance to seize the high ground, huh? How was that? How were they to do this, in your opinion?
 

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I'm on my way out so only had time to browse/shuffle to a couple bits, but looks interesting. No idea what side the guy favors or if he's just dispassionately commenting/analyzing, but I will definitely watch later. First thought though -> guy looks a little green to be speaking for "lawyers." Need 20-30 years in the profession, as a litigator (not desk jockey type), to really have sufficient XP for that.
Guy is a trial lawyer (at least partially criminal side of things as well, in some of his other videos he seems to have moved since into other related areas) for a big firm and otherwise has the relevant skills if his website is anything to go by -- https://www.legaleagleprep.com/about

And yeah he mostly seemed to go in on that for the dispassionate and technical approach, or perhaps the lawyer equivalent of old school hacker, which suits me rather nicely.
 

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Wait a second. The Republican party had a chance to seize the high ground, huh? How was that? How were they to do this, in your opinion?
Pick another name from the list of 25 that they got Kavanaugh from? They could've had him confirmed a week later at most, which could've been now. Odds are no accusations come forward and the guy can act normal (not hyper partisan or hyper emotional) for a few hours during confirmation hearings. Instead Republicans made it blatantly clear that they really don't give a fuck about de-legitimizing the supreme court or the confirmation process.
 
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Guy is a trial lawyer (at least partially criminal side of things as well, in some of his other videos he seems to have moved since into other related areas) for a big firm and otherwise has the relevant skills if his website is anything to go by -- https://www.legaleagleprep.com/about

And yeah he mostly seemed to go in on that for the dispassionate and technical approach, or perhaps the lawyer equivalent of old school hacker, which suits me rather nicely.


I haven't gotten to the video yet but that was not a good comment (from me). I was literally getting called to head out to shopping with my wife when I typed it and it was just my first impression after seeing about 6-7 seconds of the guy, that he looked kinda young, like under 35. Since you're typically going to be at least 25-26 or older before admitted to the bar somewhere, 10 yrs or less experience which doesn't really = veteran litigator. But I didn't give him enough of a fair shake to dispel that (probably unfair) presumption.
 

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Wait a second. The Republican party had a chance to seize the high ground, huh? How was that? How were they to do this, in your opinion?

How about no accusing protestors of being paid plants constantly? How about not attempting to pass a background investigation off as an actual investigation? How about addressing both Judge Kavanaugh and Senator Lindsey Graham's, to be quite frank, scary as hell attack on an entire party that makes up half the county. How about they stop flogging Clinton like this is still the 2016 election? This is the party that was triggered by Clinton referring to them as deplorable but they have no problem attacking others.

The whole process has highlighted that the Republican party expects to treat others one way, such as the accusations that Hilary is a murderer than their surrogates like to make, accusations that have no credible collaboration.

In short, even though I'm sad to see it, I can't say the Republicans don't deserve this. They started the false accusation train, legitimized and now are sucking at its teat and they want to complain when anyone else resorts to their tactics.
 
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Sad day for this country. The blatant disrespect for the people of this country, the head-in-sand approach to human rights, the disregard for logic, compassion, and thoughtful assessment. This country continues to increase in silliness and vapid sensibilities.

The vast majority of folks are against this nonsense. But it's things like this that makes me aware we're more oligarchy than a proper democracy.
 

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Actually he is being sworn in tonight.
Doesn't it look so... right?
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Sad day for this country. The blatant disrespect for the people of this country, the head-in-sand approach to human rights, the disregard for logic, compassion, and consideration for other humans. This country continues to increase in silliness and vapid sensibilities.

The vast majority of folks are against this nonsense. But it's things like this that makes me aware we're more oligarchy than a proper democracy.
Yep, Kavanaugh is going to be the fourth supreme court justice nominated by a president who didn't win the popular vote. We are witnessing the dying breaths of Democracy in the US.
 

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Yep, Kavanaugh is going to be the fourth supreme court justice nominated by a president who didn't win the popular vote. We are witnessing the dying breaths of Democracy in the US.

You know it's funny because when I was a kid people loved to say the Star Wars prequels were crap, and in some ways they were. In some ways, they were utterly perfect.

raw
 
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