The Theories of the 2020 Election Conspiracy

[Plasmaster09]

The simple fact of the matter is my ideas are my own, ones which I have possessed long before Trump was thee President. While it is true some of the theories that have come to light recently coincide with my own theories, it is no reason to believe that I am a Trumper.

I have been saying for 25+ years that if you are into pedophilia, drugs, homosexuality, and/or prostitution... then Politics is the right job for you. I have been saying for 20+ I do not believe the main stream narrative, and I do not believe elections are free and fair. The fact that some are only reaching this idea recently perhaps just goes to show I might have been on to something for a long, long time now.

dude
you pin everything on democrats and treat trump like a saint that can do no wrong
you are a trumper
and the fact that "some are only reaching [these conspiracies you spout] recently" doesn't mean you were remotely close to the truth, it means your crazed delusions are spreading like some sort of Dipshit's Plague

 

[tthousand]

dude
you pin everything on democrats and treat trump like a saint that can do no wrong
you are a trumper
and the fact that "some are only reaching [these conspiracies you spout] recently" doesn't mean you were remotely close to the truth, it means your crazed delusions are spreading like some sort of Dipshit's Plague

You word "democrats" should be replaced with "politicians", which clearly Trump is not. I am open to the idea he could be a puppet of the underhand, but I am also open to the idea he is part of a movement to bring this country back in to control of the people... which the politicians do not want.

 

[Lacius]

I have been saying for 25+ years that if you are into... homosexuality... then Politics is the right job for you.

You mean because they are an oppressed minority whose basic rights depend on being civically active in a way unoppressed groups have never so much have conceived?

Leave it to a Trumpian conspiracy theorist to also be homophobic. I'm shocked (not really).

 

[Plasmaster09]

You word "democrats" should be replaced with "politicians", which clearly Trump is not. I am open to the idea he could be a puppet of the underhand, but I am also open to the idea he is part of a movement to bring this country back in to control of the people... which the politicians do not want.

uh
what
he IS a politician
and before you say "no, he's just a businessman", getting into politics and running for president basically MAKES someone a politician even if they weren't one before
and arguably, being a businessman and not a politician is just the reason he managed to fuck everything up so badly due to trying to run a country like a business
and you have been blaming things solely on Democrats
if anything, the one POSSIBLE time you've admitted Republicans have done bad things instead of claiming it was a false flag or some horseshit... was calling former Trumpers traitors or something because they actually came to their fucking senses

 

[tthousand]

You mean because they are an oppressed minority whose basic rights depend on being civically active in a way unoppressed groups have never so much have conceived?

Leave it to a Trumpian conspiracy theorist to also be homophobic. I'm shocked (not really).

I am all for people making their own choices, and respecting the choices of others at the same time. When they do not respect others views is where I draw the line. If someone is homesexual, I have no issue with that. If someone is trying to jam their beliefs down my throat, then I highly object.

 

[Seliph]

If someone is trying to jam their beliefs down my throat, then I highly object.

How would you define what it means for someone to "jam their beliefs down your throat" if I may ask

 

[tthousand]

uh
what
he IS a politician
and before you say "no, he's just a businessman", getting into politics and running for president basically MAKES someone a politician even if they weren't one before
and arguably, being a businessman and not a politician is just the reason he managed to fuck everything up so badly due to trying to run a country like a business
and you have been blaming things solely on Democrats
if anything, the one POSSIBLE time you've admitted Republicans have done bad things instead of claiming it was a false flag or some horseshit... was calling former Trumpers traitors or something because they actually came to their fucking senses

We are talking about the current election... but I believe Republicans are responsible for the greatest flame flag of our time, but that is a discussion for another thread.

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How would you define what it means for someone to "jam their beliefs down your throat" if I may ask

Telling me I am supposed to think or feel a certain way. I am very proud to live in a country where I am allowed to think for myself.

 

[Lacius]

I am all for people making their own choices, and respecting the choices of others at the same time. When they do not respect others views is where I draw the line. If someone is homesexual, I have no issue with that. If someone is trying to jam their beliefs down my throat, then I highly object.

Nothing shows respect like suggesting that gay people are deplorable enough to be lumped in with pedophiles, drug-users, prostitutes, and potentially worst of all, politicians.

Spoiler

 

[Seliph]

Telling me I am supposed to think or feel a certain way. I am very proud to live in a country where I am allowed to think for myself.

So would you consider someone telling you that gay people shouldn't be in the same category as criminals to be "jamming their beliefs down your throat"?

 

[Plasmaster09]

I am all for people making their own choices, and respecting the choices of others at the same time. When they do not respect others views is where I draw the line. If someone is homesexual, I have no issue with that. If someone is trying to jam their beliefs down my throat, then I highly object.

by "jamming their beliefs down my throat" (and btw, they aren't beliefs- homosexuality is genetic, so calling it a belief is like calling someone's eye color a matter of personal choice like you can just alter your iris at whim), I presume you mean "existing and stating that they deserve to exist and be themselves, at all, ever"
fuck off with the DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender) argument
it's played to death and makes you look like an oppressive asshole to anyone that can read through it

 

[Lacius]

Telling me I am supposed to think or feel a certain way. I am very proud to live in a country where I am allowed to think for myself.

Gay people don't care how you feel. Nobody is telling you how to feel. That doesn't excuse voting to take anybody's civil rights away, however. If you do that, you're an asshole.

 

[tthousand]

So would you consider someone telling you that gay people shouldn't be in the same category as criminals to be "jamming their beliefs down your throat"?

No, I would not be opposed to that. That is a fair assumption. But it does not change my beliefs that if someone where trying to hide their homosexuality, then politics could be a good fit for them. Obviously, these politicians are not claiming to be any of these things. If they are any of the above, then come out and say it. The world would be a better place for it. BUt when they hide it, and later get caught, it is not a good look for American politicians.

To me, it is all in the way the argument is presented.

 

[Lacius]

No, I would not be opposed to that.

So you take back what you said about homosexuals?

 

[tthousand]

So you take back what you said about homosexuals?

might I suggest you reread my last post?

 

[Seliph]

if someone where trying to hide their homosexuality, then politics could be a good fit for them.

And uh

What about politics makes it easier to hide homosexuality?

I'd imagine it would be much easier to hide your homosexuality if you entirely avoided politics and did something like... I dunno... simply not telling anyone about your homosexuality and not being a politician. It would be much easier considering you wouldn't be someone that literally anyone could get information on with a simple google search because it is very easy to find info on politicians.

I think you're just trying to backpedal from conflating homosexuality with criminality. Mega cringe.

 

[Lacius]

might I suggest you reread my last post?

I asked the question to get a direct answer. Do you take back what you said?

 

[Plasmaster09]

And uh

What about politics makes it easier to hide homosexuality?

I'd imagine it would be much easier to hide your homosexuality if you entirely avoided politics and did something like... I dunno... simply not telling anyone about your homosexuality and not being a politician. It would be much easier considering you wouldn't be someone that literally anyone could get information on with a simple google search because it is very easy to find info on politicians.

I think you're just trying to backpedal from conflating homosexuality with criminality. Mega cringe.

motte, bailey and bullshit
that's this guy's entire argument (with a dash of DARVO, of course)

 

[tthousand]

And uh

What about politics makes it easier to hide homosexuality?

I'd imagine it would be much easier to hide your homosexuality if you entirely avoided politics and did something like... I dunno... simply not telling anyone about your homosexuality and not being a politician. It would be much easier considering you wouldn't be someone that literally anyone could get information on with a simple google search because it is very easy to find info on politicians.

I think you're just trying to backpedal from conflating homosexuality with criminality.

I feel once you are in a position of power, you are open to corruption and blackmail. As long as you play the game, you can indulge all you want knowing you have the cover to do so. I have seen it many times, including ALL the examples I have referenced. I am simply speaking from a historical point of view.

 

[Seliph]

I feel once you are in a position of power, you are open to corruption and blackmail. As long as you play the game, you can indulge all you want knowing you have the cover to do so. I have seen it many times, including ALL the examples I have referenced. I am simply speaking from a historical point of view.

Oh I guess I should become a politician so I can have as much gay sex as I want then without anyone finding out

instead of

I dunno

Choosing the easier option of simply having gay sex without telling anyone.

Anyways correlating homosexuality with corruption and blackmail really isn't a good look for you.

 

[tthousand]

Speaking from my own experiences, the first time I saw political corruption with my own eyes was some 25+ years ago, when I was a young child. And what I saw was a politician get caught have homesexual relationships behind his wife's back using his power of office to do so.

Basically, if you have something to hide, become a politician so you have more power to hide it. If you have nothing to hide, stay away from politics because the corruption is seeded deep.

I suppose I could have said hidden, but I figured that was implied. I apologize for the misunderstanding my assumption created.